Joe Belfiore: Windows Phone 8 GDR2 fixes storage bug; pushing Yahoo for better Flickr app

Microsoft's head of Windows Phone development, Joe Belfiore, posted a number of messages on his Twitter account today. While his main purpose was to show off more images he took with the newly launched Nokia Lumia 1020 smartphone, he also took the time to answer some questions from Windows Phone 8 owners as well.

One post addressed the "other storage" bug that has plagued Windows Phone 8 users for a long time now. It basically puts a section of a device's on-board storage under the "other" tag, but it also takes up quite a bit of space, especially among lower end smartphones that don't have a lot of storage to spare.

In a Twitter post, Belfiore claims that the Windows Phone 8 GDR2 update, which is slowly making its way to current devices, fixes this issue:

That's the official statement, but there are other reports online that claim the bug is still there and that the GDR2 update may have just improved the situation, rather than done away with the bug completely.

On another subject, Belfiore posted up his new Nokia Lumia 1020 images on his Flickr account and he stated today that he is a fan of Yahoo's photo sharing service. However, he also admits that the current official Flickr app for Windows Phone is lacking. In another Twitter post today he stated:

The official Flickr Windows Phone app has not been updated since late March. Since then, Yahoo has launched a revamp of the Flickr service, which increased the amount of its free photo storage to 1 TB.

Source: Joe Belfiore on Twitter

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It might not get much worse but GDR2 has NOT fixed 'Other' storage for me. Mine is still sitting at 4.38GB. "Fixed" for me would be the ability to see what data is stored in 'Other' and make an informed choice about being able to delete it. Anything else is not fixed. Reseting the phone is an option but that's not a fix.

I have recently run in to this issue. I was watching some movie, pressed windows logo and phone sat idle. No other program running. After a few hours, phone became very sluggish; "resuming" even for start screen. Free space left: <100MB

Other storage issue is NOT fixed in GDR2. At least not on My HTC 8s nor on My Lumia 925 both with GDR2....After 9 mounth still no fix for a bug...

Agha said,
Other storage issue is NOT fixed in GDR2. At least not on My HTC 8s nor on My Lumia 925 both with GDR2....After 9 mounth still no fix for a bug...

It is fix, but probably not to what your liking.

You also have to remember that part of your Other is your email, temp internet files, text message, text attachments and such. Try removing them, and you should see the difference.

Does 'Pushing Yahoo for a better app' mean offering to pay Yahoo for a better app?
Just pushing or offering to pay is not good. If developers are not coming organically now after three years what hope is there?

Most of the official versions of the major apps are already available. It's apps like Instagram, Vine and Flickr that aren't available yet. Keep in mind that WP8 was released in October 2012 and under the hood, it's significantly different than WP7.

If you have Lumia, you can download "2Instawithlove" apps. Screw the third party instead Nokia accelerate it and show those b@st@rd who's da boss. I thought vine is coming if I think I heard it on Nokia zoom conference Event.
Instead of crying for apps, focus on the features of Nokia with their Lumia. Nokia map with the turn by turn, Carl Zeiss camera, Nokia lenses apps, city lens, and Bing, skydrive, and office are enough to make the phone scream "Screw iPhone and Android"

minster11 said,
If you have Lumia, you can download "2Instawithlove" apps. Screw the third party instead Nokia accelerate it and show those b@st@rd who's da boss. I thought vine is coming if I think I heard it on Nokia zoom conference Event.
Instead of crying for apps, focus on the features of Nokia with their Lumia. Nokia map with the turn by turn, Carl Zeiss camera, Nokia lenses apps, city lens, and Bing, skydrive, and office are enough to make the phone scream "Screw iPhone and Android"
I use third party apps if the official one isn't available like Instance (Instagram) and 6Sec (Vine). I haven't used the #2InstaWithLove app yet but I'll check it out.

Anyway, apparently a Vine app is in the works. Twitter has done a great job with the official app for WP8 so the Vine app should be good.

Even IOS is getting better overhaul for Flickr. They bought the team that made Kitcam and are integratting that into the IOS app. An Android update is probable coming a little latter and windows phone is last.

Is that the problem? WP will always be 3rd in line for a new app or app updates. Microsoft has to take matters into their own hands and develop a full line of apps that rival Google, Flickr, Instagram and so on.

CygnusOrion said,
Is that the problem? WP will always be 3rd in line for a new app or app updates. Microsoft has to take matters into their own hands and develop a full line of apps that rival Google, Flickr, Instagram and so on.

Agree. They have done it with Youtube, Facebook. So they can do a Gmail, Gtalk, Flickr, Instagram app as well. They cannot expect Nokia to take front and center in this. Nokia is a hardware manufacturer. WP8 is Microsoft's baby. It is MS that needs to be pushing the other companies to get apps on the platform, not Nokia.

It's great they fixed the bug except being on Verizon with an 822 I'll be lucky if I get the update before my 2 year term is up.

it will come eventually but will take quite some time to get a full robust app selection, things like this take years to get up to snuff, but with Nokia doing a lot of pushing and MS seem to be finally taking the finger out of their ass and market share becoming more and more worldwide, it may happen quicker than we think. BUT MS need to start getting these updates pushed and onto devices, GDR2 has been available for a bit of time now and is only available on a few new devices and a small number of existing devices, this needs to happen faster. GDR3 will be on new devices for the holiday season later on in the year but they also need to get this pushed to as many existing devices at the same time. Once WP has later this year and into early 2014 equal or better spec'd phones than android and an OS that is more robust and hopefully more market share things will only continue to climb for WP. All in all it does look like a rather positive future for WP as long as MS and OEMS continue to push hard.

Not sure what to think about WP8. Sometimes I am optimistic, sometimes crap like this gives me not hope.

iOS has had a head start. People on Android complain about the lack of quality apps still as well. Heck, even the Verge, when reviewing the new Nexus 7, stated a con to the device was the lack of apps compared to iOS. This is NOT an easy problem to solve.

We need a strong 3rd player. The ecosystem lock in is scary. One should be able to use a WP device and all google services, but that is not possible. It is more possible with Apple, just because of their market dominance and Google's willingness to provide quality apps on that platform.

WP8 is doing better. I am not sure if they ever will get the developer attention it needs. Android is so attractive because of the type of 'geek' that will love to support it. Windows needs to get that type of enthusiasm. No side loading, and a more closed platform makes it hard to attract the right people. iOS is the exception here. Market dominance outweighs any closedness.

mostly agree - but dont forget, noone actually needs all those tons of apps etc. every ecosystem can make calls, browse the web, check your mails and more. the apps we perceive as important are actually not.

Oh I agree. I think the majority of people do not need tons of apps. I do think some buyers, like myself will always be weary. There is some type of apprehension to getting a phone with lacking 3rd party support.

I have a Nexus 4 now, which I do like for the most part. I really want to get a 925, for the camera and the fact my keyboard might not freeze or skip keystrokes!

But I want some more specialized / advanced applications. Simple things like a decent Google Talk or XMPP app. There are solutions out there, sure but they are not quality. The kicker is I would like OTR support. Will we ever see OTR support on WP8, probably, but that exists today on iOS and Android.

It is tough. Normal people should be pretty dang happy with WP8. I hope developers embrace the platform, and people use their apps!

MetroTalk is overall an excellent GTalk app for WP8 - has push notifications, and you can even get notifications on the lockscreen. Some minor issues here and there, but the latest updates seem to have fixed the problems I've had with the app.

IM+ does a decent job for supporting chat, although I would really like that baked into the OS - FB chat is awesome, but it would be great for it to natively support more protocols.

ObiWanToby said,
Not sure what to think about WP8. Sometimes I am optimistic, sometimes crap like this gives me not hope.

iOS has had a head start. People on Android complain about the lack of quality apps still as well. Heck, even the Verge, when reviewing the new Nexus 7, stated a con to the device was the lack of apps compared to iOS. This is NOT an easy problem to solve.

We need a strong 3rd player. The ecosystem lock in is scary. One should be able to use a WP device and all google services, but that is not possible. It is more possible with Apple, just because of their market dominance and Google's willingness to provide quality apps on that platform.

WP8 is doing better. I am not sure if they ever will get the developer attention it needs. Android is so attractive because of the type of 'geek' that will love to support it. Windows needs to get that type of enthusiasm. No side loading, and a more closed platform makes it hard to attract the right people. iOS is the exception here. Market dominance outweighs any closedness.

Takes people to accept a bit of pain, perceived or not, when moving to a lesser developed or newer platform. Or, coming to realization it's exactly what they were looking for all along.

I came to WP8 from Android a few weeks ago and have no issues. I have about half a dozen apps on my phone and there are a number of apps I used on Android that are available for WP8 and I deliberately chose not to bother installing.

Now I have a phone that isn't full of crap, runs smoothly and efficiently and the battery lasts nearly 3 days. I don't think there's an android phone on the market (or an iPhone) that can last that. I don't get bugged every day after xyz app needing this update that also needs access to all my information and contacts. I don't get to have a hundred junky processes running in the background sucking up the battery and requiring some over the top hardware to run. Instead I open my phone and get a clean and simple start screen that tells me what I need to know - who called, who texted, who emailed, whether it'll rain, and what's happening on a few of the social networks I keep an eye on. No guff, no nonsense and no need for 6 screens full of icons.

Now I have a phone that isn't full of crap, runs smoothly and efficiently and the battery lasts nearly 3 days. I don't think there's an android phone on the market (or an iPhone) that can last that. I don't get bugged every day after xyz app needing this update that also needs access to all my information and contacts. I don't get to have a hundred junky processes running in the background sucking up the battery and requiring some over the top hardware to run. Instead I open my phone and get a clean and simple start screen that tells me what I need to know - who called, who texted, who emailed, whether it'll rain, and what's happening on a few of the social networks I keep an eye on. No guff, no nonsense and no need for 6 screens full of icons.

bingo!!!
From a former Galaxy Vibrant now a Nokia Lumia 822 user since last week.