microSD, changeable covers and wireless charging for Lumia 820?

News about Nokia's first Windows Phone 8 devices just keeps on leaking. Less than an hour after new images emerged of the two new handsets, more details have now apparently been revealed about the Lumia 820, which will slot in below the Lumia 920 flagship in Nokia's new range of Windows Phones.

Citing multiple "sources familiar with the company's Windows Phone plans", The Verge reports that the Lumia 820 will include wireless charging; earlier, we reported that this feature is also expected to be included on the slightly larger Lumia 920. However, it is claimed that users will have to purchase a separate cover in order to enable the wireless charging feature on the Lumia 820.

Storage is another area in which the 820 will differ from its bigger brother. Whereas the Lumia 920 is expected to include 32GB of on-board storage, the 820 is said to include just 8GB, although it will include a microSD card slot so that users can expand their local storage further. The 820 will also feature removable rear covers - so when you realise what a terrible mistake it was to go for that canary yellow option, you can switch to a more subdued choice at a later date.

Interestingly, the 1.5GHz dual-core processor and 1GB of RAM that the 820 will reportedly include are identical to the specs predicted for its larger sibling. It is claimed that the 820's camera "will be similar to its Lumia 920 counterpart" although whether or not it too will be PureView-branded remains uncertain.

The broadly similar specs and physical size of the two devices doesn't appear to have left much of a gap between them, and it will certainly be interesting to see how Nokia chooses to separate the two handsets in its marketing. Pricing will surely be a significant factor - but we'll have to wait until Wednesday for more on that.

But then again, given the frequency of all these leaks, we may yet find out before then.

Source: The Verge | Image via @evleaks

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pshhh iphone, doesnt even compare to everything Microsoft is coming out with. Cant wait to hear about these phones tomorrow

MDboyz said,
I am praying that one of them coming to T-Mobile.

when they first leaked the renders a few days ago it did say that the 820 was most likely going to AT&t and T-Mobile. dunno about the 920. If it does go to T-Mobile i know which phone i am upgrading to.

Why do you Americans accept these exclusivity agreements between phone manufacturers and your carriers? Seems to me that all they do is limit their sales. I make my choice of carrier based on their coverage in my area and their plans, not based on the phones they have available.

Here in the UK pretty much all phones are available on all carriers. Apple tried to limit the iPhone to our "O2" network back when it launched, but that didn't last long.

TCLN Ryster said,
Why do you Americans accept these exclusivity agreements between phone manufacturers and your carriers? Seems to me that all they do is limit their sales. I make my choice of carrier based on their coverage in my area and their plans, not based on the phones they have available.

Here in the UK pretty much all phones are available on all carriers. Apple tried to limit the iPhone to our "O2" network back when it launched, but that didn't last long.

we don't have a choice here. its not up to the consumer. I myself wont switch from T-mobile... been a customer of theirs for over 15 yrs(back when they were voicestream)

TCLN Ryster said,
Why do you Americans accept these exclusivity agreements between phone manufacturers and your carriers? Seems to me that all they do is limit their sales. I make my choice of carrier based on their coverage in my area and their plans, not based on the phones they have available.

Here in the UK pretty much all phones are available on all carriers. Apple tried to limit the iPhone to our "O2" network back when it launched, but that didn't last long.

It doesn't work like that at all in the USA. One reason is the capitalistic nature of our technologies and coverage, we have CDMA and GSM and a lot of local operator licensing towers and communities dictating what towers can be deployed.

Even with LTE which should help merge technologies there is fragmentation in the the various frequencies.

In big cities, towers and coverage are controlled by business and their political influence. In rural areas, this is even more true, as counties will keep new tower deployments from occurring because they would compete with the existing tower owners that are usually on the council or the richer people in the area.

The USA needs a massive re-regulation effort for Cellular coverage, and should build its on infrastructure, as it did with the original Internet and the Interstate Highway system in the 1950s under Ike.

Sadly the anti-government movement = less consolidation and correction of bad regulation and policies. This is why we have so much incompatibility.

Cell companies are also anti-competitive inter-related so that even if one company wanted to offer 'cheap' or 'better' service, they can't because they need the coverage areas across the whole nation, because the USA is big, unlike the UK or Belgium that can have smaller companies provide widespread coverage.

So say Cricket or MetroPCS (the lower cost companies) want their users to not be stranded when they get out of their region, they sign contracts with Sprint and ATT and the other major carriers that 'require' them to pay large fees or keep their prices at a certain level to gain access to their system.

Then Sprint and ATT have to pay local tower owners that also have anti-competitive control due to political power of the owners. So say ATT wanted to drop its costs, the local tower owners are going to still demand the same fees, or leave huge gaps in coverage, as ATT has no rights or way to blanket the same area even if they want to throw money at putting in towers, as the county or city council will not license them to do it, making sure their buddies get their share of the profit.

Sadly the local governments don't realize they are crippling their commerce and business by having allegiance to their friends that own the towers.

I have worked with this directly in many areas around the country, especially in very rural areas like Nevada that have major Interstate Highways that it should be a Federal priority to have coverage all along the Interstate Highway.


So what we have are carriers that require contracts or have insane fees for non-contract phones, and even if you do non-contract phones they have to be supplied by the Carrier. If you buy an unlocked XYZ phone, only a few carriers will let you use it on their network.

The 820 is going to be as big as the 920? Wow, their new lineup isn't leaving much room for those who prefer smaller phones.

My girlfriend needs a new phone, and while she's vaguely interested in the new Nokias, if they're any bigger than the Lumia 720 she won't buy one.

Guess Nokia's fallen into the "Look how big my phone is, bro!" fad.

lunarworks said,
The 820 is going to be as big as the 920? Wow, their new lineup isn't leaving much room for those who prefer smaller phones.

My girlfriend needs a new phone, and while she's vaguely interested in the new Nokias, if they're any bigger than the Lumia 720 she won't buy one.

Guess Nokia's fallen into the "Look how big my phone is, bro!" fad.

Im not sure where she's going to go. The world is moving towards phones with larger screens.

lunarworks said,
The 820 is going to be as big as the 920? Wow, their new lineup isn't leaving much room for those who prefer smaller phones.

My girlfriend needs a new phone, and while she's vaguely interested in the new Nokias, if they're any bigger than the Lumia 720 she won't buy one.

Guess Nokia's fallen into the "Look how big my phone is, bro!" fad.

Even new mid-range phones on Android seem to be 4'' on average. It isn't a fad, just the natural evolution of phones, as Phones with bigger screens sell better. Afterall, if you pay for a expensive device then you want something in your hands that seems worth the price.

Although it is rumored that Nokia will release new low-end WP7.8 devices. So if your girl doesn't mind 7.8 then there will be something for her. Also the Lumia 800 is small and it's getting a pricecut (plus it will get 7.8).

lunarworks said,
The 820 is going to be as big as the 920? Wow, their new lineup isn't leaving much room for those who prefer smaller phones.

My girlfriend needs a new phone, and while she's vaguely interested in the new Nokias, if they're any bigger than the Lumia 720 she won't buy one.

Guess Nokia's fallen into the "Look how big my phone is, bro!" fad.

I have been reading that the 920 will have a 4.5" screen and the 820 will have a 4.3" screen

Ronnet said,

Even new mid-range phones on Android seem to be 4'' on average. It isn't a fad, just the natural evolution of phones, as Phones with bigger screens sell better. Afterall, if you pay for a expensive device then you want something in your hands that seems worth the price.

Although it is rumored that Nokia will release new low-end WP7.8 devices. So if your girl doesn't mind 7.8 then there will be something for her. Also the Lumia 800 is small and it's getting a pricecut (plus it will get 7.8).

Lots of people I've talked to don't want anything bigger than an iPhone, and these are even people who hate the iPhone.

If all the "competing" phones are going 4"+ in a dick-waving contest, shoppers don't have much choice in the matter.

As for WP7.8, why buy a phone with an orphaned OS? All the app writers (apps are the key) are going to target WP8 because that's the platform that Microsoft is supporting going forward. If my girl gets a WP7.8 phone, and can't get Instagram for example (I imagine they're waiting for WP8), she's going to flip a table.

lunarworks said,

Lots of people I've talked to don't want anything bigger than an iPhone, and these are even people who hate the iPhone.

If all the "competing" phones are going 4"+ in a dick-waving contest, shoppers don't have much choice in the matter.

These "people" you speak of are aware that even the iPhone is growing, right? The sixth iPhone (which everyone assumes will be called the iPhone 5, paradoxically) is going to be larger than the iPhone 4s.

Besides, after having a Galaxy S2 for a year now, I really don't like using an iPhone now. It just seems so small by comparison, almost like a mini phone.

TCLN Ryster said,

These "people" you speak of are aware that even the iPhone is growing, right? The sixth iPhone (which everyone assumes will be called the iPhone 5, paradoxically) is going to be larger than the iPhone 4s.

Besides, after having a Galaxy S2 for a year now, I really don't like using an iPhone now. It just seems so small by comparison, almost like a mini phone.

By that reasoning if you drive a big SUV we should all drive a big SUV. Amirite?

lunarworks said,

By that reasoning if you drive a big SUV we should all drive a big SUV. Amirite?

I wasn't expressing an opinion on if the growth of phones was right or not, just stating the fact that the iPhone IS growing. Is that a problem?

lunarworks said,

Lots of people I've talked to don't want anything bigger than an iPhone, and these are even people who hate the iPhone.

If all the "competing" phones are going 4"+ in a dick-waving contest, shoppers don't have much choice in the matter.

As for WP7.8, why buy a phone with an orphaned OS? All the app writers (apps are the key) are going to target WP8 because that's the platform that Microsoft is supporting going forward. If my girl gets a WP7.8 phone, and can't get Instagram for example (I imagine they're waiting for WP8), she's going to flip a table.

There are a lot of people that want a slightly bigger screen phone that can replace a Tablet in a lot of circumstances.

When watching Netflix or other Video content or working on native resolution content, the larger screen appeals to people in their 30s-40s that eyesight is slipping a bit, and younger people that don't have the money for a Tablet and can set their phone on its side and be the entertainment device.

There will be a several phones with smaller screens, they have been announced and leaked. Nokia may not be going this direction, but they are one company.

The whole point of Windows Phone is having a choice in hardware and features, that the iPhone does not offer, and still provide the stability and platform consistency that Apple offers its customers.

(This is what Windows has ALWAYS been about, providing a common platform on an array of hardware, and its ability to run well on a insane mix of hardware components. It is why Windows 3.x was successful to begin with, and the void in the phone market that Android does not offer with its inconsistencies.)

smooth3006 said,
boy you guys are windows phone crazy on here aren't ya?

What do you think the "win" is for in "Neowin" ? out of interest....

smooth3006 said,
boy you guys are windows phone crazy on here aren't ya?

What's wrong with that? Great hardware, great operating system and an amazing launch partner - it's win-win all around.

smooth3006 said,
boy you guys are windows phone crazy on here aren't ya?

You do realize all this information is the equivilent of an Apple iPhone keynote, right? I'm shocked that neowin doesn't have a live blog!

smooth3006 said,
boy you guys are windows phone crazy on here aren't ya?

Says one of Neowin's resident anti-metro inhabitants

Besides, the next time Apple or Google release something worthy of news, and not just a minor point release that doesn't really add a great deal.. I'm sure Neowin will cover it

smooth3006 said,
boy you guys are windows phone crazy on here aren't ya?
Considering there is nothing going on in Tech news right now this isn't a bad consumer bit.

Having MicroSD/Wireless Charging (Standards based even) and a way to change the look of the entire phone supported by the manu w/o buying a new phone is pretty amazing regardless of the phone OS.

smooth3006 said,
boy you guys are windows phone crazy on here aren't ya?

I don't really mind, after all just wait for the iPhone 5 week , I'm sure we'll get daily rumors and leaked pics. It's quite a major release and a really important one for Windows Mobile which after 4 years of using iOS, could be a nice change.

smooth3006 said,
boy you guys are windows phone crazy on here aren't ya?

You must be lost...

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