Microsoft has issues with Google Cloud Connect for Microsoft Office

It seems that not everyone is happy with the new Office Plug-in released by Google just last week. In fact, Microsoft has even gone out of its way to blog about various issues that they believe the new Google Cloud Connect for Microsoft Office has for users.

According to the GCN, Microsoft has not only talked about various problematic issues with Google Cloud Connect for Microsoft Office, it even alleges that data privacy is at risk.

Microsoft claims that if you turn on automatic syncing and do not change the default sharing location, all of your documents are accessible to others. But as a commenter on the Microsoft blog mentions, this is not actually the case as default document storage is set to private.

Another issue that Microsoft brings up is the lack of some Office functionality when users run Google Cloud Connect for Microsoft Office. The company states that features such as track changes, sort settings, table styles and more may cause some issues with the plug-in. However, this is also something that the Office Web Apps have suffered with in the past, and in some cases, still do now.

Finally, Microsoft has claimed that Google Cloud Connect for Microsoft Office may cause data loss, stating that working with features and files that don’t work with the plug-in can lead to some syncing errors and data loss. 

Judging from the quick blog post from the company, it seems that Microsoft may be a little scared of the new plug-in and rightly so, as many users have said they have waited for this option from Google for some time and are very happy with this first public version.

Google Cloud Connect can be installed on most versions of Office 2003, 2007 and 2010, but not with Office 2010 starter edition or any version that Microsoft’s Click-to-Run service has been used with.

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If Microsoft is so worried, make a better competitive product and / or market it better.
I also think it upset Microsoft since the plugin works as far back as Office 2003 where they don't want to import new features to.

etempest said,
If Microsoft is so worried, make a better competitive product and / or market it better.
I also think it upset Microsoft since the plugin works as far back as Office 2003 where they don't want to import new features to.

I hate repeating myself but Microsoft already have a better product. Skydrive sync built into Office 2010 and Office Web Apps at office.live.com.

Not only that but I believe there is a Skydrive sync plugin for Office 2007.

neo158 said,

I hate repeating myself but Microsoft already have a better product. Skydrive sync built into Office 2010 and Office Web Apps at office.live.com.

Not only that but I believe there is a Skydrive sync plugin for Office 2007.

Office 2003 is still the most popular Office version.
Second, Google's plugin sync is not the major feature , the online collaboration on documents is the main feature.

neo158 said,

I hate repeating myself but Microsoft already have a better product. Skydrive sync built into Office 2010 and Office Web Apps at office.live.com.

Not only that but I believe there is a Skydrive sync plugin for Office 2007.

I use the native office sync all the time. Haven't faced any problem until now. besides I don't trust google that much.

I'll take this with a grain of salt. It's widespread knowledge that Google and Microsoft are rushing to provide cloud services, seeking to beat each other to the chase. They're each others biggest competitors.

RealFduch said,
How is Google's plug-in different from Microsoft's office.live.com ?

office.live.com doesn't use a plugin, the sync features are native to Office 2010.

Phantom Phreak said,
I trust my old mechanical hard drives more than the cloud.

I trust the cloud less too, but it is nice as an offsite backup

Phantom Phreak said,
I trust my old mechanical hard drives more than the cloud.

I don't really trust the cloud that much, I always keep my docs at my HDD, and for the convenience of portability I also keep them on Google docs and dropbox [ sync from my HDD ]

What ev.. this is still a good thing for Microsoft if they fix the problems because more people will use Office.. and that translates into more sales. I would be happy if someone else used their cloud to service my product..

Lachlan said,
What ev.. this is still a good thing for Microsoft if they fix the problems because more people will use Office.. and that translates into more sales. I would be happy if someone else used their cloud to service my product..

Why?

Office 2010 has cloud sync built in anyway.

jakem1 said,
I wouldn't trust Google with my documents anyway.

+1 that's exactly how I feel, and considering you have native syncing with Skydrive in Office 2010 why bother with this POS plugin anyway.

neo158 said,

+1 that's exactly how I feel, and considering you have native syncing with Skydrive in Office 2010 why bother with this POS plugin anyway.

Agree.

jakem1 said,
I wouldn't trust Google with my documents anyway.

Really? That's a shame because word on the grapevine is that everyone at Google has been waiting to get hold of your docs for ages because the're obvious really important and everything, and would contribute so much to Google's cunning yet evil plan to take over the world.

Keep it safe; keep it secret. Keep it Microsoft.

SuperHans said,

Really? That's a shame because word on the grapevine is that everyone at Google has been waiting to get hold of your docs for ages because the're obvious really important and everything, and would contribute so much to Google's cunning yet evil plan to take over the world.

Keep it safe; keep it secret. Keep it Microsoft.

Quite frankly, Google has given us NO reason why we should trust them with our documents, and 15 billion reasons NOT to. Privacy is an after thought for them, considering their main income is ad revenue, it is asinine to think that we can trust them with our secrets.

Plus, it is no secret that GMail is crawled by "bots" looking for keywords to use in serving you more personalized ads.


Sure, I really wanna switch to ChromeOS, and hand Google my hard drive. Sure.

SuperHans said,

Really? That's a shame because word on the grapevine is that everyone at Google has been waiting to get hold of your docs for ages because the're obvious really important and everything, and would contribute so much to Google's cunning yet evil plan to take over the world.

Keep it safe; keep it secret. Keep it Microsoft.

I agree, most of the crap we create and use is worthless to anyone but ourselves.

However, Google does like to data mine our documents for better advertising patterns and results. This is a bit invasive.

Google also has a poor security model for their online server storage. From Gmail to GDocs, any IT person that decides they want to see what is in their girlfriend/boyfriend's email or GDocs storage, can literally just access it. Which is a bit strange and scary that Google's security is not much different than a small town ISP. (It was not that long ago a few Google employees were fired for spying on email and documents of people they knew, which is good that Google's employee policy is against it, but sad their computers and secuirty doesn't flat out prevent it and they are using an employee handbook as their security model.)

At least with Microsoft, their online storage model is highly secure with not only redundant encryption based on your unique identifier, but the data is also not accessible by humans. This means that a bad employee at Microsoft can't do anything or read anything from anyone's account. The only way the stored data is managed is through machine queued processes.

Frylock86 said,

Quite frankly, Google has given us NO reason why we should trust them with our documents, and 15 billion reasons NOT to. Privacy is an after thought for them, considering their main income is ad revenue, it is asinine to think that we can trust them with our secrets.

Plus, it is no secret that GMail is crawled by "bots" looking for keywords to use in serving you more personalized ads.

1) Google has never given ME a reason not to trust them. I've not knowingly been affected by there so called "lack" of privacy measures. If you have then fair enough.
2) Adblock add-on
3) Do Not Track add-on

I don't even have the last one ^. As far as I'm concerned, Google can track me as much as they like. Surely the more personalised ads are - the better??? I think I'm the only commenter on Neowin with this attitude

thenetavenger said,

However, Google does like to data mine our documents for better advertising patterns and results. This is a bit invasive.

I don't mind I kinda realised this when signing up for Gmail. For me, Gmail is the best free web based email service around - I'm happy to sacrifice a little privacy if I can organise my life a little better.

Since Google docs is pretty feeble in comparison to the MS Office products they emulate, they decided to piggyback on top of the better product.
It certainly takes a little of the wind out of Microsoft's sails, as Google got this out ahead of Microsoft's Office 365 product.

gark said,
Since Google docs is pretty feeble in comparison to the MS Office products they emulate, they decided to piggyback on top of the better product.
It certainly takes a little of the wind out of Microsoft's sails, as Google got this out ahead of Microsoft's Office 365 product.

Office 365 is a little different as it requires Office Pro Plus 2010 and all it provides is Exchange Online, Sharepoint Online and Lync Online. Google Cloud Connect just syncs documents to the cloud to use with *shudders* Google Docs.

Rudy said,
Google had a good idea and MS isn't happy

Wasnt googles idea, iirc it was docverse and google brought it. I used it for a month once as part of a project, really not that good

Rudy said,
Google had a good idea and MS isn't happy

*Microsoft employee isn't happy... it isn't any official company line. But *shrugs*, this is the kinda thing they created their plugin architecture for.

~Johnny said,

*Microsoft employee isn't happy... it isn't any official company line. But *shrugs*, this is the kinda thing they created their plugin architecture for.

When an employee post on a company provided blog it should be regarded as the company's "official" line. Otherwise he should consider getting a personal blog

Rudy said,
Google had a good idea and MS isn't happy

Google has just (badly) copied Microsoft's Live Office.
BTW, yes they are unhappy, but you know waht: MS does nothing about this. They don't ban everything they don't like, like some fruit company is doing. This is the difference.

RealFduch said,

Google has just (badly) copied Microsoft's Live Office.
BTW, yes they are unhappy, but you know waht: MS does nothing about this. They don't ban everything they don't like, like some fruit company is doing. This is the difference.

If anything, Microsoft copied Google. Google had the web apps first, now their just trying to let people integrate the Google Web apps with Office.

Lloyd Sparkes said,

Wasnt googles idea, iirc it was docverse and google brought it. I used it for a month once as part of a project, really not that good

google bought it - that makes it google's idea

De.Bug said,

If anything, Microsoft copied Google. Google had the web apps first, now their just trying to let people integrate the Google Web apps with Office.

The article is about Google Cloud Connect, not Google Docs, isn't it?

De.Bug said,

If anything, Microsoft copied Google. Google had the web apps first, now their just trying to let people integrate the Google Web apps with Office.

Ya, not so much...

Back in 1999 we were accessing and editing Word, Excel, and Powerpoint Documents in a browser using the HTML/XML Office file format with a few ASP scripts.

There were tons of companies that provided ASP and PHP interfaces to web hosted Office HTML/XML documents long before Google was even known to 99.999% of the world, let alone years before GDocs.

Also when used on Sharepoint hosted web sites, the sharing, revision, collaboration features combined with some of the pretty in browser editors, had more features back in 1999/2000 than GDocs of today does.

Office Live Documents are Microsoft's entry into non-enterprise versions of this functionality, meaning it is geared toward regular consumers and why it is 'new' to Microsoft.

If this doesn't give enough thought to consider changing your mind, then realize Google didn't even create GDocs. Go look up 'Upstartle' that Google bought, as they have with virtually every product and technology they offer.

So in theory, Google also hasn't copied anyone, as it is rare for them to create anything... (In case you find this surprising, pick your favorite Google product or technology, and then look it up and see what company they bought it from or bought out to get it.)

PS The HTML/XML office document formats were first created in 1999 (probably before), and thus OfficeXML was first created, even though the OpenDocument consortium wants people to believe that OfficeXML didn't exist for several more years and it was not a mature format.

thenetavenger said,

Ya, not so much...

Back in 1999 we were accessing and editing Word, Excel, and Powerpoint Documents in a browser using the HTML/XML Office file format with a few ASP scripts.

There were tons of companies that provided ASP and PHP interfaces to web hosted Office HTML/XML documents long before Google was even known to 99.999% of the world, let alone years before GDocs.

Also when used on Sharepoint hosted web sites, the sharing, revision, collaboration features combined with some of the pretty in browser editors, had more features back in 1999/2000 than GDocs of today does.

Office Live Documents are Microsoft's entry into non-enterprise versions of this functionality, meaning it is geared toward regular consumers and why it is 'new' to Microsoft.

If this doesn't give enough thought to consider changing your mind, then realize Google didn't even create GDocs. Go look up 'Upstartle' that Google bought, as they have with virtually every product and technology they offer.

So in theory, Google also hasn't copied anyone, as it is rare for them to create anything... (In case you find this surprising, pick your favorite Google product or technology, and then look it up and see what company they bought it from or bought out to get it.)

PS The HTML/XML office document formats were first created in 1999 (probably before), and thus OfficeXML was first created, even though the OpenDocument consortium wants people to believe that OfficeXML didn't exist for several more years and it was not a mature format.


Okay, Microsoft had an XML office format first, but Google was the first to have an actual editor online that is very similar to an offline editor.

De.Bug said,

If anything, Microsoft copied Google. Google had the web apps first, now their just trying to let people integrate the Google Web apps with Office.

Wow! The irony. Microsoft invented the very technology (XmlHttpRequest) that makes it even possible for Google to produce all of their web apps. And that technology was created specifically for Microsoft's web app version of Outlook, which was released only a few months after Google even existed as a corporation.