Evangelist: Windows Phone 8 coming to all WP7 phones

Microsoft has been rather cagy when it comes to answering questions about Windows Phone 8 software upgrades for Windows Phone 7 devices. Now WMPowerUser has posted up a translated portion of a video with a Portuguese Microsoft rep which seems to confirm that Windows Phone 8 (code named Apollo) will in fact be made available for all previously released Windows Phone 7 devices.

The translation of the interview with Microsoft Evangelist Nuno Silva states:

What Microsoft said/stated and what I'm allowed to tell you is that all actual devices will get upgrade to the next major version of Windows Phone (we're talking about Apollo).

He adds that devices such as the Samsung Omnia 7, which was released in 2010, would get the software upgrade to Windows Phone 8 despite being first-gen devices.

It's possible that Silva was in fact speaking out of turn since no Microsoft representative has gone on the record, before now, saying Windows Phone 8 would be available for Windows Phone 7 products. However, unless this news bit is denied officially by Microsoft, this will certainly be good news for anyone who has bought or will buy a Windows Phone-based smartphone.

It's also worth noting that every rumor we've heard about this refutes it, and have pointed to only the high end Lumia devices actually receiving the update. Take this one with a grain of salt for now, it's pretty unlikely.

Editor's note: Silva, according to his LinkedIn profile, is actually an employee of Microsoft. Despite this, it is still unclear what position he has at the company and whether he actually works there

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Fritzly said,

Isn't Tango supposed to be aimed at low, mid-range devices?

Not entirely. It has been optimized even further so that the specs can be less, but it also has other features that everyone will be getting. It's not exclusive to lower speced hardware, it just allows the OS to run on lower speced hardware.

M_Lyons10 said,

Not entirely. It has been optimized even further so that the specs can be less, but it also has other features that everyone will be getting. It's not exclusive to lower speced hardware, it just allows the OS to run on lower speced hardware.

Thanks for the clarification; by any chance do you know what improvements or features someone like me with a HD7 and a Lumia 800 will get? Tethering maybe?
TIA

wrack said,
Hope MS gets some sense and does something about it. That being said all of these are speculations so let us wait and see.

I am waiting to see if some air is cleared in coming days before i decide to buy WP. i do not want my device to be obsolete & retarded with launch of Apollo

ilovetech said,

I guess after all there won't be any upgrades.. & this is very bad..

https://twitter.com/#!/mar...y/status/192452350311542785

Odd. If you're going to just believe a "source", why not believe one from within Microsoft? LOL I am waiting to hear from Microsoft on this, but find it odd that people latch onto these "sources" when we have no idea who they are. For all we know they work in the cafeteria at the Microsoft Campus...

The newest WP devices have ultra low end specs, I couldn't imagine the 2010 devices not struggling with their ancient Adreno 200's, low RAM and their obsolete single core 1GHz CPU's

Sonne said,
The newest WP devices have ultra low end specs, I couldn't imagine the 2010 devices not struggling with their ancient Adreno 200's, low RAM and their obsolete single core 1GHz CPU's
But those "ancient" phones run WP7 silky smooth. I think it is a given all WP7 devices will get upgraded to WP8. MS cannot afford WP to become fragmented like Android. As others have said, the older phones will run WP8 just fine and any new feature those phones don't support will simply be disabled. That is my 2 cents anyway, so take with a grain of salt.

Xerxes said,
But those "ancient" phones run WP7 silky smooth. I think it is a given all WP7 devices will get upgraded to WP8. MS cannot afford WP to become fragmented like Android. As others have said, the older phones will run WP8 just fine and any new feature those phones don't support will simply be disabled. That is my 2 cents anyway, so take with a grain of salt.

Windows Phone won't get fragmented like Android because app compatibility is maintained in WP8.

Sonne said,
The newest WP devices have ultra low end specs, I couldn't imagine the 2010 devices not struggling with their ancient Adreno 200's, low RAM and their obsolete single core 1GHz CPU's

Considering MS had the NT Kernel running on less than WP7 Gen1 hardware, I say your statement is false.

Xerxes said,
But those "ancient" phones run WP7 silky smooth. I think it is a given all WP7 devices will get upgraded to WP8. MS cannot afford WP to become fragmented like Android. As others have said, the older phones will run WP8 just fine and any new feature those phones don't support will simply be disabled. That is my 2 cents anyway, so take with a grain of salt.

Agreed.

This would be great news if true. Great for the people who invested in getting a Windows Phone, and great for the WP8 platform, since it gets an instant boost in marketshare. But, they still have to phase out the old phones at some point, so if not at Apollo, then when?

Salutary7 said,
This would be great news if true. Great for the people who invested in getting a Windows Phone, and great for the WP8 platform, since it gets an instant boost in marketshare. But, they still have to phase out the old phones at some point, so if not at Apollo, then when?

Next update? I would expect them to stick to an "all updates within 2 year period" sort of release schedule considering so many people are on 2 year contracts / upgrade paths...

Like others have said, this better be true. WP will be in trouble if they do not support the current devices. At least second gen of phones.

So from some things I've read Apps made for WP8 won't work on WP7? If that happens then Microsoft are just shooting themselves in the foot. I won't upgrade to a WP8 device for new Apps.

SPARTdAN said,
So from some things I've read Apps made for WP8 won't work on WP7? If that happens then Microsoft are just shooting themselves in the foot. I won't upgrade to a WP8 device for new Apps.

Well, that was a rumor someone posted on here actually that they came up with from their "insider location" in their living room... Considering the apps run on a Framework (Silverlight / XNA), it shouldn't matter what the underlying OS version is.

SPARTdAN said,
So from some things I've read Apps made for WP8 won't work on WP7? If that happens then Microsoft are just shooting themselves in the foot. I won't upgrade to a WP8 device for new Apps.

That would be bad but not unexpected. Can apps written specially for Windows 7 run on Windows XP? No. But most developers still target Windows XP so XP users have no problems. Can apps written specially for Android ICS run on Android Gingerbread? No. But again, most developers still target Froyo for Android development.

This might be the case with WP7 apps - devs will still target WP7 unless the app uses some fancy stuff introduced in WP8 - and (if this really happens) I hope Microsoft will introduce some way to deliver different "builds" of an app on the marketplace (if such a feature does not already exist). Or Microsoft can just update all WP7 devices to WP8 and you'll have no issues... or provide some kind of compatibility layer...

So from some things I've read Apps made for WP8 won't work on WP7? If that happens then Microsoft are just shooting themselves in the foot. I won't upgrade to a WP8 device for new Apps.

This might be a good strategy. Because people tend to reconsider their mobile phone platform when it is time to upgrade their mobile. So if they give users a good reason to stick with their current phone, chances are people will stick with their platform.

I hope such upgrade (if this happens to be true) will not be blocked by mobile operators. One of the biggest issues I hear people complaining about WP is the whole "update blocking" by carriers (particularly US' AT&T). I reckon Microsoft was a bit silly to allow mobile operators to block updates/upgrades.

pmdci said,
This might be a good strategy. Because people tend to reconsider their mobile phone platform when it is time to upgrade their mobile. So if they give users a good reason to stick with their current phone, chances are people will stick with their platform.

I hope such upgrade (if this happens to be true) will not be blocked by mobile operators. One of the biggest issues I hear people complaining about WP is the whole "update blocking" by carriers (particularly US' AT&T). I reckon Microsoft was a bit silly to allow mobile operators to block updates/upgrades.

Carriers are only allowed to block 1 update, so if AT&T blocks a security release, then WP8 comes out, they have to approve WP8... It's nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be. The bigger problem is the time it takes the carriers to approve these updates. That needs to be improved drastically.

They already confirmed the lumia line gets the update. Be stupid to plow millions of dollars into advertising only to stumble in half a year. 2nd gen devices should get it to but not so sure bout 1st gen ones

psionicinversion said,
They already confirmed the lumia line gets the update. Be stupid to plow millions of dollars into advertising only to stumble in half a year. 2nd gen devices should get it to but not so sure bout 1st gen ones

I thought I remembered Nokia saying that as well. Glad to see I'm not alone. lol

So by being Portuguese I should expect you're lying too? (I'm Portuguese too)

tiagosilva29 said,
He's Portuguese and works for Microsoft. Expect nothing but lies.

(I'm Portuguese.)

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