Steve Wozniak: Windows Phone is “intuitive and beautiful”

Cast your mind back a couple of weeks, and you may recall the slightly surprising news that Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak appeared to be considering the purchase of a Nokia Lumia 900. Although his purchase of the Windows Phone wasn’t immediately confirmed, Nokia CEO Stephen Elop nonetheless sent him a tweet to welcome him “to the #Nokia Lumia 900 family”. Since then, things have been a bit quiet.

But confirmation that he did indeed buy the handset has come in the form of a podcast from aNewDomain.net, in which Wozniak spoke with the site’s Dan Patterson, Gina Smith and Todd Moore on his thoughts about the Lumia 900 and the Windows Phone OS.

Woz revealed how he considered the platform to be easy-to-use, and complimented how apps look “more beautiful than on Android or iPhone”. In fact, he had a great deal of praise for Windows Phone, and WPCentral highlighted a few of his most positive comments:

  • "Compared to Android, there's no comparison"
  • "Intuitive and beautiful"
  • "Just for looks and beauty, I definitely favour the Windows Phone over Android"
  • "I’m just shocked; I haven’t seen anything yet that isn’t more beautiful than the other platforms"
  • "It makes me feel ‘Oh my gosh, I’m with a friend, not a tool’" (referring to UI interactions and graphics)
  • "I just really like the experience and will be carrying the Windows Phone everywhere"

 
The Next Web noted that Wozniak later added to his comments:

I did give my opinion that the Windows Phone had superior visual appearance and operation cues that were also more attractive. In my opinion, it sets the mark for user interface.

…I surmise that Microsoft hired someone from Apple and put money into having a role in the UI and appearance of some key apps. I also surmised that Steve Jobs might have been reincarnated at MS due to a lot of what I see and feel with this phone making me think of a lot of great Apple things."


Overwhelmingly positive praise there, particularly in his suggestion that much of what is so good about Windows Phone is evocative of some of the best that Apple has to offer.

Woz did mention a couple of downsides to the Windows Phone experience though – he noted that there were some limitations in the ubiquity of the speech-to-text features, and that the OS lacks an integrated Siri-style digital assistant.

He also noted that his iPhone remains his preferred device overall – largely down to the greater variety of apps – and while he plans to carry both his iPhone and Lumia 900 around with him, it seems that his Android handsets will now be staying at home.

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Im out to going to buy a new WP7 phone!!!

I want to search for a app that can overclock my phone.................well, seems there isnt one.
Doesnt matter, I want to theme my phone because I like circles instead of squared tiles................oh there isnt one, thats OK.
I want the audio output on my headphones to be louder than what any organization limits the dBs to.............no mod to to this.
I want the HTC Sense clock..................oh wait I have tiles.
Im done with the 8GB microSD card in my Android. Im going to buy a 32GB and I want to use one to use with my new WP7.....................Damn, it doesnt support it (my new Lumia 900 and the OS isnt friendly with external storage)
10 euros for a app? The hell with that, Im going to and I want to pirate it and side load it on my WP7 just like on Windows, OS X, iOS, Android, Windows Mobile, Blackberry, and every other OS I can think of.........oh wait, the guys that allowed that were paid off my Microsoft to shut up, close their division, and dont allow this.
Picture! Picture! Got it! I want to send it to you thru Bluetooth you can have the full size and I dont have to upload it to Facebook.............oh wait I have to get a application (if there is one) to send it to your device.
But wait, Im at the store, I dont know which WP7 to get and I want to compare but I see all these Android devices from 150-600 euros, the iPhone without different models but at least 10 at its huge price but.............................only one or two WP7? What is this?


I can go on and on and on and on.

"I want"= I can choose the OEM's way or I can choose to do whatever the **** I want with my hardware. Thats the key

Having said that, WP7 is like Android when it came out: Promising but we will see the end result in a few years. Now it just simply ****ing sucks. Bottom line.

So basically you want to make your stylish Windows Phone look like ****? Stay with Android mate if taste is what you're lacking. Who on earth actually likes the Sense UI!!?
My WP7 syncs with SkyDrive so who needs to send a picture by bluetooth, I can just give a link. infact every single photo I have is on SkyDrive so automatically appear in my Pictures folder.
Same goes for music and videos, there's already great apps to stream it all from my server at home or I can use Spotify.
You can also up the audio output to headphones from the diagnostic menus.
I'm not sure what apps you're looking at that are 10 euros.....

derekaw said,
Too bad Win Phone sells like last weeks bread. Woz may give it a boost in the nerd community.

It's still a new product that is gaining market share. Give it some time, sheesh... This criticism is really getting ridiculous...

derekaw said,
Too bad Win Phone sells like last weeks bread. Woz may give it a boost in the nerd community.

That's more to do with the majority of people being completely mindless drooling drones that think they need to have what everyone else has and couldn't stand actually being different.

Heck i'm a devoted 'droider but I love WP7's UI and function, it perfectly bridges the original "beauty" of iPhone and the customization/usability of android.

More people should look at WP!

Wow, Android users are not happy...

Woz was not complimentary of Android or its OS model.

It isn't the WP7 haters having negative responses here, it is the Android fanbois that are having a negative reaction.


I was impressed that Woz focused on the usability features of WP7, and was able to articulate them from a perspective of understanding technology and UIs.

No matter what people say, Woz is not stupid, and he is not a WP7 fanboi, but he tends to use a lot of technology and is very honest about what he thinks.

(I remember catching an episode of reality TV a few years ago, and he was dating Kathy Griffin, and when she had an issue with her iPhone he started to show her how it would work better for her by unlocking it. -It was so up front and honest it was a priceless moment.

Will there ever be a day when people give a genuine compliment to Microsoft instead of these left-handed compliments? Stupid Schadenfreude.

it's nice to see someone like hime who loves tech actually love tech, not be told what to love because of his ties

neufuse said,
it's nice to see someone like hime who loves tech actually love tech, not be told what to love because of his ties

Absolutely. I'm glad he likes it. It really is a great platform.

Pretty much the same as anyone who tries. Beautiful interface, interaction, great live tiles, and performance.

Steve uses a segway and not a gym so the lack of complete bluetooth profiles won't ever become apparent to him. As with others, there are apps lacking and many devs are committed to iOS. Apple made them and they're beign loyal. And of course, there's the lingering upgrade question potentially making the flagship Windows Phone obsolete in less than 6 months. As well as a still below par facebook app after 2 versions with Microsoft funding.

One other thing that is nagging is the camera software. You should be able to get better pics out of 8MP. Had same issues with Titan so I believe it is just poor camera software.

I want this to succeed so bad because what is there is so good. But Microsoft's silence on what's missing, when we can expect it, and answers to the upgrade question is becoming real annoying, real fast.

Remember too, Nokia released devices based on WP7 six month ago and WP7 itself is out for 18 month only. This is still a new platform compared to its competition from Apple, Android and BB. If they can address most of the shortcomings with the next update it will become successful.

Gungel said,
Remember too, Nokia released devices based on WP7 six month ago and WP7 itself is out for 18 month only. This is still a new platform compared to its competition from Apple, Android and BB. If they can address most of the shortcomings with the next update it will become successful.

Agreed. I just really need complete bluetooth profile and fixing the camera software would be nice. But Microsoft's silence is quite irritating. When Video Audio over bluetooth didn't work with Netflix or an video they said nothing about complaints and quietly fixed it in Mango. That's BS customer service.

My fear is things like the Camera Software and Full Bluetooth Profiles will be fixed in WP8, and current phones won't be upgradeable. And MS is being silent despite the public discussion about it. I promise you if they screw all Lumia and Titan II customers, I will go back to iPhone. It does have all the support I'm still waiting for with Windows Phone and takes great pictures ;>

Again, I really just hope they fix what to me are inexcusable omissions at this point. What's there is clearly superior to iOS and Android, but what's missing, while small in quantity, is significant to a significant number of users.

MorganX said,
Pretty much the same as anyone who tries. Beautiful interface, interaction, great live tiles, and performance.

Steve uses a segway and not a gym so the lack of complete bluetooth profiles won't ever become apparent to him. As with others, there are apps lacking and many devs are committed to iOS. Apple made them and they're beign loyal. And of course, there's the lingering upgrade question potentially making the flagship Windows Phone obsolete in less than 6 months. As well as a still below par facebook app after 2 versions with Microsoft funding.

One other thing that is nagging is the camera software. You should be able to get better pics out of 8MP. Had same issues with Titan so I believe it is just poor camera software.

I want this to succeed so bad because what is there is so good. But Microsoft's silence on what's missing, when we can expect it, and answers to the upgrade question is becoming real annoying, real fast.

Camera software? Are you high?

You are right that the WP7 does not hit the 'auto-fix' button for you and destroy the pixels captured like the iPhone. So in that way, the software is different, but the WP7 image is more accurate from the hardware.

As for 'camera' software... It pulls the data from the imager, there is not really any 'software' in 'processing' the image that runs. (Unless you still want the iPhone autocorrecting of photos, that destroys image data.)

Again, this reminds me of the late 90s, when HP and Epson were fighting for top photographic quality.

Epson was more accurate and HP was over saturated. The Epson has far smaller dots with 7 colors and using the black in Photos without getting a metallic effect.

In photography magazines, Epson would win all the awards, but in PC Mag, CNET, the reviewers would see the over saturation as MORE PRETTY, and give the award to the HP printers, even while noting the 'dots' were visible.

You can have quality, or fake quality, and the iPhone's autocorrect of images is 'fake' quality, as we have 5MP cameras that technically are delivering better images than the iPhone 4S, and yes 5MP cameras running WP7, which is why I state again, the 'camera software' is irrelevant to what the hardware does.

MorganX said,

But Microsoft's silence is quite irritating. When Video Audio over bluetooth didn't work with Netflix or an video they said nothing about complaints and quietly fixed it in Mango. That's BS customer service.

Regarding bluetooth... The newer profiles in WP8 will be nice, but remember that there have been 'security' issues with the current bluetooth personal network that Microsoft purposely did not put in WP7, and has been working to get the bluetooth 'standards' fixed to be more secure.

As for 'BS customer service', Microsoft opened an investigation into Bluetooth issues at the beginning of November 2010, when WP7 was literally hitting the shelves.

The problem was 'not' a consistent issue, and had to do with the Bluetooth devices the phones were connecting with. So some users were having audio/video issues with bluetooth, some were having a reboot when updating contacts to their Volvo, etc...

This was not just a WP7 issue, and Microsoft was working with Samsung and HTC where the HD7 had the most issues to find out what was going on.

You can call this 'BS Customer Service', but considering this was a new OS and new devices, it was not that extraordinary. Microosft also did rollout fixes for specific devices BEFORE Mango as well.

Why is it that when the iPhone shipped with no AD2P bluetooth and no voice dialing features for bluetooth users, everyone thought this was OK, and normal, yet when WP7 had a few issues and actually offered the technology, they are the bad coompany?

Apple set back bluetooth support a couple of years with the iPhone, and was seen as insane that they didn't provide the same basic support for bluetooth that a free non-smartphone had several years before the iPhone.

(PocketPC had bluetooth voice dialing in 2002/2003 aka Windows Mobile, and added in AD2P a year or two later.)

The iPhone didn't even get AD2P Bluetooth until iOS 3.x which was released less than a year before WP7 went on sale.

iOS 4.0 which was released around the time WP7 went on sale, BROKE AD2P and had several other Bluetooth issues with pairing and crashing, and that is why you will find users returning back to iOS 3.1.

Apple went on to release 4.1 without addressing any of the Bluetooth issues, and fixed a few of the Bluetooth issues in 4.2. With iOS 5.0.1 they fixed an AD2P oustanding issue, but 5.0 introduced a new list of bugs with Bluetooth, especially with pairing with several cars, and AD2P headsets.

Apple hasn't confirmed the Bluetooth issue to this day, yet there are still Bluetooth devices that WILL NOT work with an iPhone as of writing this.

So tell me again how Microsoft's customer service is BS, especially regarding Bluetooth?

(PS I never had one issue with Bluetooth on WP7 from day one, using Motorol S9/S10 HD headsets and pairing to my cars. I didn't 'need or wait' for the Mango update, and I might have just been lucky, as I didn't start using my WP7 outside the lab until May 2011, long before the Mango updates, but after the initial updates to WP7.)

Geesh...

thenetavenger said,

Camera software? Are you high?

You are right that the WP7 does not hit the 'auto-fix' button for you and destroy the pixels captured like the iPhone. So in that way, the software is different, but the WP7 image is more accurate from the hardware.

As for 'camera' software... It pulls the data from the imager, there is not really any 'software' in 'processing' the image that runs. (Unless you still want the iPhone autocorrecting of photos, that destroys image data.)

Again, this reminds me of the late 90s, when HP and Epson were fighting for top photographic quality.

Epson was more accurate and HP was over saturated. The Epson has far smaller dots with 7 colors and using the black in Photos without getting a metallic effect.

In photography magazines, Epson would win all the awards, but in PC Mag, CNET, the reviewers would see the over saturation as MORE PRETTY, and give the award to the HP printers, even while noting the 'dots' were visible.

You can have quality, or fake quality, and the iPhone's autocorrect of images is 'fake' quality, as we have 5MP cameras that technically are delivering better images than the iPhone 4S, and yes 5MP cameras running WP7, which is why I state again, the 'camera software' is irrelevant to what the hardware does.

That's a long winded defense of nonsense. I'm not talkign about color correcting for fixing. Windows Phone's camera software leaves a lot to be desired from focus, to processing lighting properly. Nokia has fixed their phone cameras with software in the past and I hope they do so again.

Your simple assessment of bluetooth profiles being limited to AD2P has nothing to do with the incomplete bluetooth profile preventing peripherals other than stereo headphones.

Make sure you know what you're talking about before you get so longwinded. I said what is there is great, what is missing is the problem. Geesh.

PmRd said,
I'm not surprised at all by this because Windows Phone simply is the best thing out there.

I am....I didn't realize Steve Wozniak was so open to trying new tech particularly when it comes to a competing product. I just never understood why Microsoft got so much heat way back in the day when some journalist somewhere thought it was a big story that Microsoft was purchasing Apple computers. Duh.....Microsoft supplies its produts for the Mac OS and of course it makes sense to keep an eye on what the competiton is doing.

What is also surprising to me is that Steve Wozniak is so open and I assume honest in what he says about WP7, then agian, I don't think his feeling about WP7 will hurt Apple or his fortunes anytime soon. Besides, I feel confident that he problem owns stock in Microsoft, Google, Oracle and many other companies.

NPGMBR said,

I am....I didn't realize Steve Wozniak was so open to trying new tech particularly when it comes to a competing product. I just never understood why Microsoft got so much heat way back in the day when some journalist somewhere thought it was a big story that Microsoft was purchasing Apple computers. Duh.....Microsoft supplies its produts for the Mac OS and of course it makes sense to keep an eye on what the competiton is doing.

What is also surprising to me is that Steve Wozniak is so open and I assume honest in what he says about WP7, then agian, I don't think his feeling about WP7 will hurt Apple or his fortunes anytime soon. Besides, I feel confident that he problem owns stock in Microsoft, Google, Oracle and many other companies.

Wozniak loves technolgoy. He's in the queue for every iPhone release even though he could get Apple to mail him one personally, and he buys any latest tech to have a play with and probably eventually take apart knowing him

NPGMBR said,

I am....I didn't realize Steve Wozniak was so open to trying new tech particularly when it comes to a competing product. I just never understood why Microsoft got so much heat way back in the day when some journalist somewhere thought it was a big story that Microsoft was purchasing Apple computers. Duh.....Microsoft supplies its produts for the Mac OS and of course it makes sense to keep an eye on what the competiton is doing.

What is also surprising to me is that Steve Wozniak is so open and I assume honest in what he says about WP7, then agian, I don't think his feeling about WP7 will hurt Apple or his fortunes anytime soon. Besides, I feel confident that he problem owns stock in Microsoft, Google, Oracle and many other companies.

Since Jobs 'original' screwing over of Woz and his 'rescrewing' of Woz when he came back to Apple, the company has distanced itself from Woz as much as possible.

(Remember the employee that Steve Jobs fired because he showed Woz a feature on the 3G iPad, even though it had nothing to do with 3G nor did he state it was a 3G iPad, and it was in hall just outside the conference. However, it wasn't yet an 'announced' product (by a few hours) and Woz was not to be given preferred treatment. -Woz even tried to call Jobs to keep the employee from being fired, Jobs didn't care what Woz thought, whatsoever.

It is kind of sad that the snake oil salesman ended up with the fortune, instead of the smart guy. Woz is the 'technically' minded of the two original founders, and continues to have a curiosity for technology, and unlike Jobs is technically a Genius.

Lumia 900 below should be discontinuing since Lumia 900 is hot issue. Samsung Focus S and HTC Titan should be discontinuing since tiny market shares Samsung should copy Lumia 900 for next Focus S II or Focus S II with Apollo

calimike said,
Lumia 900 below should be discontinuing since Lumia 900 is hot issue. Samsung Focus S and HTC Titan should be discontinuing since tiny market shares Samsung should copy Lumia 900 for next Focus S II or Focus S II with Apollo

what?

Hum... I like my android better
I've been playing with a Windows Phone this last week, even though I did like the GUI, it's too simplistic and closed for me. lol

MidnightDevil said,
Hum... I like my android better
I've been playing with a Windows Phone this last week, even though I did like the GUI, it's too simplistic and closed for me. lol

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. Clutter and confusion are failures of design, not attributes of information.

FoxieFoxie said,

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. Clutter and confusion are failures of design, not attributes of information.


this is poetry!

FoxieFoxie said,

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. Clutter and confusion are failures of design, not attributes of information.

Einstein!

MidnightDevil said,
Hum... I like my android better
I've been playing with a Windows Phone this last week, even though I did like the GUI, it's too simplistic and closed for me. lol

^ This

MidnightDevil said,
Hum... I like my android better
I've been playing with a Windows Phone this last week, even though I did like the GUI, it's too simplistic and closed for me. lol

Well you are smarter than Woz and the people like myself that disagree.

How many computer companies did you start? Woz started at least one, and I started a couple as well.

Woz is a software/hardware engineer and programmer, like myself. I am also an educational researcher in OS theory and OS engineering, and is one reason I like that 'Woz' really liked and 'got' the usability concepts in WP7, as it shows he still sees and can put into words what most people don't even notice.

Simplistic DOES NOT EQUAL Less

The most powerful software would be worthless unless it was 'usable', in fact there is some really impressive computational software out there that nobody knows about and only a handful of engineers can use in an effective way, and this makes it far less functional than a product like Excel that can serve the same engineers and also be used by a mom or dad keeping a ledger.

Why people keep the 'complex' equals good concept alive must be a reflection of Ego, as it truly does not make sense to exclude others through complexity.

A piece of software than could read your mind and do 10,000 things by you just saying 'Go' is more powerful than software than can do 10,000,000 things if you have to issue it 10,000 commands.

Doppelgänger said,

^ This

Again 'simple does not equal less'... Complexity is not 'better' unless you have an ego to feed.

A high level of functionality in the easiest way possible is the balance to successful software.

thenetavenger said,

Well you are smarter than Woz and the people like myself that disagree.

How many computer companies did you start? Woz started at least one, and I started a couple as well.

Woz is a software/hardware engineer and programmer, like myself. I am also an educational researcher in OS theory and OS engineering, and is one reason I like that 'Woz' really liked and 'got' the usability concepts in WP7, as it shows he still sees and can put into words what most people don't even notice.

Simplistic DOES NOT EQUAL Less

The most powerful software would be worthless unless it was 'usable', in fact there is some really impressive computational software out there that nobody knows about and only a handful of engineers can use in an effective way, and this makes it far less functional than a product like Excel that can serve the same engineers and also be used by a mom or dad keeping a ledger.

Why people keep the 'complex' equals good concept alive must be a reflection of Ego, as it truly does not make sense to exclude others through complexity.

A piece of software than could read your mind and do 10,000 things by you just saying 'Go' is more powerful than software than can do 10,000,000 things if you have to issue it 10,000 commands.

Either you miss understood what I wrote or you ... well, miss understood what I wrote.
The fact that I'm able to personalize the way I want and the way I think it's more pratical to me, does not mean (on the contrary) that will does not work for me.

The fact that it's closed, well, matter of preference. I like open source software. Doesn't mean I'm against closed source. It's a matter of opinion, approach and what's best for each other.

Like I said, I like to be able to personalize my android the way I find it more pratical for my use and I want to see what's underneath, and if needed, change it for my preferences.
Nothing wrong with that.

If I'm smarter than him, no idea, I'm not measuring genetalias here.

It's my opinion of what works best for me, and in the end, it's all that matters for me.

FoxieFoxie said,

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. Clutter and confusion are failures of design, not attributes of information.


+1 Great post.

thenetavenger said,

Again 'simple does not equal less'... Complexity is not 'better' unless you have an ego to feed.

A high level of functionality in the easiest way possible is the balance to successful software.


Agreed 100%. I think it has more to do with ego than anything really and have been saying this for a while.

I think he's lucky to be able to afford having both an iPhone and Lumia. It's not exactly cheap for most people.

Meph said,
I think he's lucky to be able to afford having both an iPhone and Lumia. It's not exactly cheap for most people.

So is this how we call hard work now? Luck?

FoxieFoxie said,

So is this how we call hard work now? Luck?


I think fortunate is a more neutral word to describe it and I believe it is what Meph meant to say.

sopharine said,

I think fortunate is a more neutral word to describe it and I believe it is what Meph meant to say.

Yes. I'm just saying he shouldn't take it for granted. Most of us can only ever have one phone, and can't just switch contracts if we don't like it.

Meph said,
I think he's lucky to be able to afford having both an iPhone and Lumia. It's not exactly cheap for most people.

I have both an Android and an iPhone.

FoxieFoxie said,

So is this how we call hard work now? Luck?

the people who work the hardest in this world make the least or even nothing.

FoxieFoxie said,

So is this how we call hard work now? Luck?

Woz deserves every penny he has, and did work hard at one time. The majority of his wealth comes from doing NOTHING now.

So if you call doing nothing 'hard work' because it makes money, you have a really messed up values system. Making money from hard work over 30 years ago, is what I would call 'Luck', not 'Work', and I think even Woz would agree.

thenetavenger said,
The majority of his wealth comes from doing NOTHING now.

Dafuq? The majority of his wealth comes from the past, not from him doing nothing now. By your definition the majority of Gates's wealth comes from doing nothing too…

Hard Work + Being Very Smart + Being in the Right Place at the Right Time + Meeting the Right People.

So a very large component of hard work and ingenuity, but also quite a bit of luck. He might not have been so successful if he'd been born in Kenya rather than California for example. Plus if it hadn't been for Steve Jobs he'd probably have ended up being a very successful engineer at another blue chip like IBM or Microsoft rather than founding his own firm - I don't think he's ever been renowned for exceptional business smarts.

MFH said,

Dafuq? The majority of his wealth comes from the past, not from him doing nothing now. By your definition the majority of Gates's wealth comes from doing nothing too…

Gates was already 1 of the richest men alive when he retired. I think he still has plenty from when he did have work at Microsoft. (& BTW, he works for nothing now in the Gates Foundation, so it's quite the opposite of what you're saying...)

WAR-DOG said,
seems like Steve needs money...

why would he need money? he's still on apple's payroll as a non-functioning member

WAR-DOG said,
seems like Steve needs money...

If he needed money, he wouldn't have impulse bought a Lumia in the first place.

ahinson said,

You must be joking. He's a billionaire.

Actually, I think he is only worth a 100-200 Million...

Steve Jobs screwed him over rather early on, and being best friends at the time, it was quite egregious.

(This is one reason Jobs was not seen in a positive light in the computer industry.)

That's pretty awesome, talking about Steve Jobs being reincarnated at Microsoft AND telling that he prefers Windows Phone app look over Android AND iOS