Toshiba announces 4K display Windows 8.1 laptops at CES 2014

We predicted that 4K displays would be a huge trend at CES 2014 and today that was proven thanks to a joint announcement from Microsoft and Toshiba. The PC maker will release two notebooks with 4K displays and Windows 8.1 sometime in mid-2014.

Microsoft's Extreme Windows blog has some of the details on the two upcoming Toshiba laptops. One of them is the Tecra W50, with a 15.6 inch screen that can go up to a resolution of 3840x2160. This notebook is designed to be a portable workstation and will have NVIDIA's Quadro K2100M graphics chip inside with 2GB of dedicated memory, along with an unnamed Intel fourth generation Core processor.

The other new notebook from Toshiba, the Satellite P50t, will have the same screen size and resolution as the Tecra W50 but include support for a full touchscreen. No other details were revealed about the hardware inside and Toshiba did not announce the pricing for either model.

Toshiba joins Panasonic in offering a Windows 8.1 PC with a 4K display. Panasonic's long awaited Toughpad 4K UT-MB5, with its 20 inch 2840x2560 resolution screen, is supposed to finally go on sale in mid-February for $5,999, after first being revealed a year ago at CES 2013.

Source: Microsoft | Images via Toshiba

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Dont we already have laptops with 4k resolution and much cheaper?

The color accuracy on them is crap of course but still....

0nyX said,
Dont we already have laptops with 4k resolution and much cheaper?

The color accuracy on them is crap of course but still....

This device is supposed to support 10bpp color. This is why it uses the specific GPU and display combination. OS level support of 10bpp(or greater) is so far only something found on Windows 7/8.

Output display's native resolution might not support 4k, and might only support VGA. Many older projectors fall into this category.

Vader76 said,
That is not 4K resolution. That's UHD. 4K is 4096 x 2160.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution

"4K Ultra HD[edit]
4K UHD is a resolution of 3840 pixels × 2160 lines (8.3 megapixels, aspect ratio 16:9) and is one of the two resolutions of ultra high definition television targeted towards consumer television, the other being 8K UHD which is 7680 pixels × 4320 lines (33.2 megapixels). 4K UHD has twice the horizontal and vertical resolution of the 1080p HDTV format, with four times as many pixels overall.[1][4]"


"Digital cinema[edit]
The Digital Cinema Initiatives consortium established a standard resolution of 4096 pixels × 2160 lines (8.8 megapixels, aspect ratio ~17:9) for 4K film projection. This is the native resolution for DCI-compliant 4K digital projectors and monitors; pixels are cropped from the top or sides depending on the aspect ratio of the content being projected. The DCI 4K standard has twice the horizontal and vertical resolution of DCI 2K, with four times as many pixels overall.
4K digital films may be produced, scanned, or stored in a number of other resolutions depending on what storage aspect ratio is used.[5][6]"

The Satellite P50t looks pretty sweet, the other one, not so much. Then again, the Tecra W50 is a "portable workstation" so it's rather more of a form follows function type of thing.
Also, I'm glad there's this move to finally get rid of that god-awful 1366x768 default resolution.

Geoffrey B. said,
i would absolutely love to have a 4K display that small, i can just imagine how crisp that video looks.

Not very different without good source material.

The new mac pro is extremely portable and have dual GPU that cost $2999. Compare to this portable laptop of the price is just absurd. You must be crazy or clueless to think this laptop justify that type of price for a portable workstation.

Master of Earth said,
The new mac pro is extremely portable and have dual GPU that cost $2999. Compare to this portable laptop of the price is just absurd. You must be crazy or clueless to think this laptop justify that type of price for a portable workstation.


Laptops always always cost more than desktops. Even if the specs look similar the components cost more. For example a standard 780 gtx is what like 400-500? A 780M costs $800.

And that $5000+ price tag is not for the laptop, ita for a 20in 4k tablet.

The new mac pro is extremely portable and have dual GPU that cost $2999. Compare to this portable laptop of the price is just absurd. You must be crazy or clueless to think this laptop justify that type of price for a portable workstation.

The Mac Pro isn't a self-contained workstation. To use it on the go, you need a display, keyboard, mouse, and power supply. It is not practical, for example, to set one up on a plane in first class, and do work during a transatlantic flight.

We won't argue that this isn't an attractive price for you personally, or most people, or even almost all people, but for folks that need the associated capabilities and can afford it, why not have the option to buy it?

Master of Earth said,
The new mac pro is extremely portable and have dual GPU that cost $2999. Compare to this portable laptop of the price is just absurd. You must be crazy or clueless to think this laptop justify that type of price for a portable workstation.

It wasn't that long ago when Mac users were justifying the cost of their equipment, now they are taking shots at 'higher end' products that they don't even fully understand.

In 2005, one set of Laptops I purchased for our team to use cost $4899. It had features that you couldn't get on a desktop MacPro at the time, let alone a MacBook. These are still in use today, they have 1920x1200 screens, P4s, and Geforce 7950 GPUs. (Faster gaming than a PS3 in a laptop from before the PS3 was launched.)

This may be an 'expensive' product but with a true color 4K display, it makes sense.

Toshiba was selling 4K desktop displays back in 2006/2007, of course this was long before Apple invented 2K displays, but I'm sure once Apple moves up to 4K displays the world will realize they exist.

Another thing that makes these 'expensive' is the GPU and display's support of 10bit color. (10bpp)

Which makes this very much a 'Windows' based notebook, as OS X tops out at 8bit (8bpp) color support.

So if you are a high end engineer/artist that needs more than 16million colors in a notebook and the hardware and OS to support it, you CANNOT even buy a Mac, they are far too low end.

Simply put, the material isn't even anywhere close to premium,the GPU is not as fast as you might think and the only discrepancy is driver specifically for certain task.

In fact, they don't even include any thunderbolt 2, if this is really what you think of the most versatile portable workstation in your mind then forget about it. They didn't address one of the most crucial FAQ that's how long will the battery life last. Despite haswell dramatically improvement in saving power consumption.

One more thing, mac users or not it's not related to how they perceived a high end product because that's utterly ridiculous comment ever.


Did you even read the posts after your comment?

1. There is no price mentioned for these laptops. The price the article quoted is for a 20" 4K tablet. NOT the laptops. I'm going to repeat it again NOT THE LAPTOP.

2. Laptops and tablets cost more than desktops. Just because the GPU isn't as fast doesn't mean ****. Like I said a brand new desktop 780 will run you about $500. A brand new notebook 780M will run you about $800-900 (just for the GPU) even though the GPU is quite a bit slower than the desktop version.

3. People don't buy a 4k laptop with a quadro GPU for long battery life. That's not the major selling point of it. People buy portables/ultrabooks for long battery life, not workstations.

OMG, i clearly know every component of the laptop cost before making any comment.

You assume people don't know anything about it. That's your ego based on your comment style.

Wait until 4k laptop that classified as workstation can last as long as iPad or Macbook Air, you won't believe what you just wrote.

My point is that people will simply opt for MacPro if it's gonna cost more than that and it won't be cheap base on their 4k tablet price. So what're you trying to argue. Gosh!

OMG, i clearly know every component of the laptop cost before making any comment.

And yet here you are talking about how the MacPro is so much cheaper than a workstation laptop and a workstation tablet

You assume people don't know anything about it. That's your ego based on your comment style.

Pot calling the kettle black?

Wait until 4k laptop that classified as workstation can last as long as iPad or Macbook Air, you won't believe what you just wrote.

And at that time the new version of the iPad and Macbook Air would have even longer battery lives. Whats your point? That technology improves?

You pointed out that they didn't address how long the battery life is. I just told you that the battery life isn't a major concern to the type of people who buy workstations like this. It's like buying a full on SLI gaming laptop and then going "god I wish I had 10 hours battery life too".

My point is that people will simply opt for MacPro if it's gonna cost more than that and it won't be cheap base on their 4k tablet price. So what're you trying to argue. Gosh!

I don't think you quite understand anything. I mean seriously.

People buy workstation laptops because of PORTABILITY. They've always been expensive but some people need the ability to use it regardless of wherever in the world they are. Yes I get it, the new macpro is cheap but I can't exactly carry a giant monitor, a mac pro, a keyboard, and a mouse with me wherever I go. What if I'm out in the field and I need to pull up something? Where the **** will I plug in my MacPro and all the other peripherals?

AND:

1. It's not their 4K tablet, it's Panasonics. Two different companies.
2. It's a tablet with a 4K screen. No ****ing **** it's going to be expensive.