Wikileaks Assange now in custody, will be held by UK authorities until Dec. 14th

Julian Assange

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange turned himself in to British authorities earlier today and is now being held without bail, according to a report from TechCrunch. The embattled frontman for whistle-blowers everywhere remains in jail while he fights extradition to Sweden where he is accused of rape. The Wikileaks founder has been denied bail by the UK courts as a result of his nomadic lifestyle. It probably did not help that he refused to give an address and was able to gain entrance into the UK without a trace. Assange will remain in jail until his extradition trial is held on December 14th, though his lawyer confirmed a bail application will be filed.

The worldwide drama that has followed Wikileaks could get even stranger now that Assange is being held in the UK. Following the release of 250,000 confidential US documents, Wikileaks has been hit with a barrage of denial of service attacks. It sought refuge but was eventually booted from Amazon's EC2 servers. The controversial website had its PayPal donation account frozen and even lost its domain name. Criminal charges from the U.S. and other countries are being considered and Assange could face extradition to other countries, besides Sweden. For the record, Assange denies the Swedish rape charges and claims they are politically motivated. 

Despite these difficulties, Wikileaks continues to survive. Mirrors are popping up all over the Internet and the site remains committed to its purpose. A recent tweet confirms that "Today's actions against our editor-in-chief Julian Assange won't affect our operations: we will release more cables tonight as normal." Normal has certainly taken on a different meaning for those involved in Wikileaks, hasn't it?

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Since when coming from outside US makes someones opinion prejudiced. On the contrary we might have a much clearer point of view on the matters as we are not being brainwashed by media. I have nothing against Americans on the contrary i have many good friends around the states. But let that alone, imho you got to be willingly blind not to see that Us foreign policy is based purely on economical factors rather than liberating any country from its regime. You don't move a billion dollar worth of weapons, fuel and personnel to free the Iraqi people of the bad Saddam and prevent the exploitation of the (non existent whatsoever) weapons of mass destruction . You do that simply to control the oil in the middle east so what if few hundreds of people including US soldiers loose their life. In the name of money your soldiers lives the grief or the families don't bring a tear to the ones up there.

We, the people of this world, have nothing to separate us. It is so sad that we take for granted that human lives have to be lost on a daily basis due to malnutrition, crime, wars etc. It is even more sad that some of us believe wars happen for the greater good to bring countries democracy and a better future. The same people that takes these decisions are the same people that terrorize the world to isolate the people individually to drop the privacy laws and make money out of weapons trade and the control of fossil fuel. We need to wake up from our Muppet state and realize that those that pull our strings don't give a damn bout us, our children and families.

I ain't nothing for or against wiki-leaks, but truth is that a lot of stuff matters to the public and we have the right to know. I come from Greece the "mother of democracy" (my *ss) where one journalist that started a blog regarding the corruption within the political regime and he was shot on sight after a while by "terrorists"

So it comes by no surprise to me that Assange got framed, in fact i am very much surprised he is still alive.

So let your 75% theory aside brother because my 100% theory says that the color of your blood and mine is red.

Power to the PEOPLE.

Assange arrested. In Sweden, a woman can withdraw consent DURING intercourse.Then it's rape! Now that's a classic WTF!

Billus - Australia, Hyperviper - Greece, Fubar - British, Tubrotuna - British, KavazovAngel - Macedonia,
hats off to +M2Ys4U for actually being from another country and speaking respectively on the issue at hand,

You know screw the rape charge, do you really think America is going let him get away with all those documents and do you think the police is in charge get real. It's the home office that deals with extraditions and all that, the police will be ordered to keep him. I think he'll be extradited to America whether Sweden gets him first or not it's only matter of time and some legal loopholes

That's my thoughts

So, we allow murderers walk free immediately yet when a fellow man gets "accused" of rape (as complaint that has already been withdrawn or never existed), the police/judge/gov deny him bail? Sounds fishy. Next thing they try and tell us is that he hangs himself in his jail cell due to depression. Perhaps this is the death of democracy and freedom of speech, a cause apparently worth fighting for in the Middle East. Hypocrisy at its best.

Billus said,
So, we allow murderers walk free immediately yet when a fellow man gets "accused" of rape (as complaint that has already been withdrawn or never existed), the police/judge/gov deny him bail? Sounds fishy. Next thing they try and tell us is that he hangs himself in his jail cell due to depression. Perhaps this is the death of democracy and freedom of speech, a cause apparently worth fighting for in the Middle East. Hypocrisy at its best.

+1
democracy loses its meaning when it comes to "US confidential files"....

Billus said,
So, we allow murderers walk free immediately yet when a fellow man gets "accused" of rape (as complaint that has already been withdrawn or never existed), the police/judge/gov deny him bail? Sounds fishy. Next thing they try and tell us is that he hangs himself in his jail cell due to depression. Perhaps this is the death of democracy and freedom of speech, a cause apparently worth fighting for in the Middle East. Hypocrisy at its best.

Murders tend to have a home address. He doesn't. It's really that simple.
Homeless people get the same treatment, no fixed address, no bail.

Billus said,
So, we allow murderers walk free immediately yet when a fellow man gets "accused" of rape (as complaint that has already been withdrawn or never existed), the police/judge/gov deny him bail? Sounds fishy. Next thing they try and tell us is that he hangs himself in his jail cell due to depression. Perhaps this is the death of democracy and freedom of speech, a cause apparently worth fighting for in the Middle East. Hypocrisy at its best.

He's an Australian in the UK wanted in yet a third country. Even if it's just for mere questioning, why did he play so *hard to get*, huh? What is he afraid will be discovered? Given his *recent* track record, I'd be seriously worried he'd flee again, too. Remember, the US has charged him with exactly nothing. (Arguably the WORST he can be charged with is "receiving stolen property", which would result in a five to ten year stretch in either Marion, IL or Glendale, CO, simply to make sure nobody kills him while in stir.) If I were Assange, I'd be more worried about the Iranians, the PRC, the Russians, or even the Pakistanis (all of whom he has horked off at him) as opposed to the US or the Germans (both of whom are also upset with the man). The Germans and Americans would rather prosecute and jail him; however, the others want him dead.

The vast majority of you sound like left-wing paranoiacs. Why?

Accused of rape? Dont know if thats true or not but sounds like ppl might just be trying to rag on him because he's under alot of scrutiny now...

It is interesting that he just turned himself in. The charges he is facing around the world may doom him to a life in prison .

Turning himself in is smart in a couple of ways. Firstly for protection, but also to shut up the "if he's innocent why is he running" brigade. From what I can gather the Swedish authorities want to speak to him about these alleged offences, yet have made no effort to meet with him and hear his side of the story. Apparently the case against him is weak, so there's more to it than a simple legal matter. Strings are being pulled and due process is once again being sacrificed to satisfy the demands of others.

The only thing that surprises me is turning himself in to the UK, the number one lapdog to the US (sorry, but you know it's the truth). Granted, his own government has also shown their true colours, but I would have thought there would have been a more neutral country to surrender to.

I'm hoping this works out for the best, but it's difficult to see how it will end. Without a truly independent media there's a greater need than ever for the likes of Wikileaks. If your media won't tell you the inconvenient truths, then there has to be some other outlet. And don't buy into the hysterical cries of "threats to national security" or any of the other FUD they'll spread. Remember the only difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist is which end of the barrel you face.

Here's a letter Assange wrote to The Australian. I think it puts perspective on some elements of the story

http://www.theaustralian.com.a...tory-fn775xjq-1225967281571

Shadrack said,
It is interesting that he just turned himself in. The charges he is facing around the world may doom him to a life in prison .

He can only be charged in the country he's in. He does his time there and gets out and stays in that country :3. No moar charges.

protocol7 said,
The only thing that surprises me is turning himself in to the UK, the number one lapdog to the US (sorry, but you know it's the truth). Granted, his own government has also shown their true colours, but I would have thought there would have been a more neutral country to surrender to.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2920563.stm

That'd probably be why, along with the fact that as an Australian, he has the right to stay a lot longer in the UK than most countries.

What happened to Wikileaks? It used to be a site of heroism, but now it is a site of criminality.

Well... not criminality, but you know what I mean.

Meph said,
What happened to Wikileaks? It used to be a site of heroism, but now it is a site of criminality.

Well... not criminality, but you know what I mean.

See: Legend of Robin Hood. If you don't like him or disagree with what he is doing, he is a criminal. If you agree with him, then he is like a Robin Hood who steals from the rich (in this case government secrets) and give to the poor (in this case the ignorant public).

Shadrack said,

See: Legend of Robin Hood. If you don't like him or disagree with what he is doing, he is a criminal. If you agree with him, then he is like a Robin Hood who steals from the rich (in this case government secrets) and give to the poor (in this case the ignorant public).

Nice analogy.

When you put the way you did, it really does sound like Robin Hood

Meph said,
What happened to Wikileaks? It used to be a site of heroism, but now it is a site of criminality.

Well... not criminality, but you know what I mean.

nah, i don't know what you mean

I think its more criminal how stupid the government pretends we are. I think its criminal these cabals aren't already in public domain. How on EARTH can we practice democracy if we don't even have any real truth for what we're voting for?

If anything these leaks prevent Al Qaeda 2.0 or the next terrorist attack because we have nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of and if we are attacked for speaking the truth our response is that much more validated - much more than forging fake evidence to attack Iraq got us (and really fed terrorism)

blahism said,

nah, i don't know what you mean

I think its more criminal how stupid the government pretends we are. I think its criminal these cabals aren't already in public domain. How on EARTH can we practice democracy if we don't even have any real truth for what we're voting for?

If anything these leaks prevent Al Qaeda 2.0 or the next terrorist attack because we have nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of and if we are attacked for speaking the truth our response is that much more validated - much more than forging fake evidence to attack Iraq got us (and really fed terrorism)

Please post a link to one criminal document...not embarrassing, not idiotic, but truly criminal.

blahism said,
I think its criminal these cabals aren't already in public domain. How on EARTH can we practice democracy if we don't even have any real truth for what we're voting for?

You think it's Criminal that Ambassadors, advisors and the like can't speak privately to their gov'ts without the whole world knowing ?

That would you being always required to tell people you work with how you feel about them, never being allowed to speak privately to "keep the peace" in the office.

In short none of the cables are surprising, nor is it surprising that the State Department says one thing to the leaders of countries, while at the same time knowing they are full of ****, keeping relations as good as they can, or at least civil.

Ryoken said,

You think it's Criminal that Ambassadors, advisors and the like can't speak privately to their gov'ts without the whole world knowing ?

That would you being always required to tell people you work with how you feel about them, never being allowed to speak privately to "keep the peace" in the office.

In short none of the cables are surprising, nor is it surprising that the State Department says one thing to the leaders of countries, while at the same time knowing they are full of ****, keeping relations as good as they can, or at least civil.


Not everything is meant for the public, doubt Microsoft will open up their conference rooms so everyone (including parties like Apple and google) knows their development.

Shadowzz said,

Not everything is meant for the public, doubt Microsoft will open up their conference rooms so everyone (including parties like Apple and google) knows their development.

Precisely.

However, apparently in the eyes of a *lot* of Neowin, the United States (and the diplomats and corporations based therein and thereof) are the only groups on the planet not allowed to keep any secrets. If Microsoft (or Apple, or Verizon, or even Google!) has any proprietary information, it's "get out the hacker tools and pry those secrets out" - same with (apparently) our diplomatic cables (even though they haven't said anything that hasn't been said in our forums). Why the double-standard?

cpu said,
I'm going to close PayPal. Any one else?

I might just for the fact they dropped him under pressure and the stupid emails they send me every day.

presence06 said,

I might just for the fact they dropped him under pressure and the stupid emails they send me every day.

Pathetic. You'll close an e-commerce account for the sole reason of a decision they made to protect themselves legally, a reason which has absolutely nothing to do with you at all.

Right on, fight the power.

LiquidSolstice said,

Pathetic. You'll close an e-commerce account for the sole reason of a decision they made to protect themselves legally, a reason which has absolutely nothing to do with you at all.

Right on, fight the power.

Wow because I said that, that makes me a pathetic person huh?

"fight the power" right on oh powerful one..

LiquidSolstice said,
Pathetic. You'll close an e-commerce account for the sole reason of a decision they made to protect themselves legally, a reason which has absolutely nothing to do with you at all.

Right on, fight the power.

And why not? Why should people continue to use and support a service that acts in a manner that contradicts their beliefs? This is why I refuse to shop at Amazon now. I regularly avoid products that have advertising campaigns that annoy me, whilst deliberately supporting products with original and entertaining ads.

theyarecomingforyou said,
And why not? Why should people continue to use and support a service that acts in a manner that contradicts their beliefs? This is why I refuse to shop at Amazon now. I regularly avoid products that have advertising campaigns that annoy me, whilst deliberately supporting products with original and entertaining ads.

Alright then. Leave. I'm sure they won't miss you, meanwhile, the rest of us who don't really care about the actions a company takes when it doesn't affect our featureset or service in anyway will continue to use it and we'll be just fine.

Enjoy finding another service to use instead of PayPal.

LiquidSolstice said,

Alright then. Leave. I'm sure they won't miss you, meanwhile, the rest of us who don't really care about the actions a company takes when it doesn't affect our featureset or service in anyway will continue to use it and we'll be just fine.

Enjoy finding another service to use instead of PayPal.

Because everyone uses and rely's on Paypal don't they?

presence06 said,

I might just for the fact they dropped him under pressure and the stupid emails they send me every day.

You can get anyone's paypal account blocked without much effort, just pretend your a lawyer and mail some bull**** to paypal about breaking the law.
works flawlessly, defendent loses its account

GG paypal

So... PayPal account is going to be closed. Visa/Master usage is reduced to the necessary minimum..

I wanna know what insurance.aes256 has in it....

If he turned himself in though, i bet he plans to expose more stuff, he wouldnt do that without a plan...and its obvious the governments are going nuts on framing since..since those rape charges wer edropped and magically reppear when he kicks the gov't a little too hard

I thought he went into hiding to avoid arrest. Why did he turn himself in? Tired of all the glory? He even said he was going to release more so called secret documents (rather gossip documents) if he were harmed in anyway. A ticking bomb if you will.

Morisato said,
I thought he went into hiding to avoid arrest. Why did he turn himself in? Tired of all the glory? He even said he was going to release more so called secret documents (rather gossip documents) if he were harmed in anyway. A ticking bomb if you will.

He turned himself in to be guarded with no expense. He is in the spotlight and since UK Police has him in custody, IF something happens to him, hell will brake loose. No one can make a move against him given the current situation. If he remained hidden, he could end up in a dump with his throat cut

They're holding him because he doesn't have a fixed address they could contact him when and if they needed to. They're just lucky that he did hand himself in. The fact that he came into the UK without going via passport control pretty much shows that he could just as easy slip out of the UK and even Europland where the european warrent won't be acted upon.

I think its a personal attack on this guy after all the 'trouble' he's caused governments, and they're just pulling strings from one side to the other in oder to get him in jail. If the UK police force can't see that happening and don't investigate it this side before handing him over, I'd have to say that the UK Police force have bent to the hand of the government here to get him jailed for sexual abuse charges.

Does anyone else find it weird that someone who was a rapist would go on about releasing 'hidden truths' and letting public know about wrong doing? karma or just the government trying to sweep the mess under the carpet?

sagum said,
They're holding him because he doesn't have a fixed address they could contact him when and if they needed to. They're just lucky that he did hand himself in. The fact that he came into the UK without going via passport control pretty much shows that he could just as easy slip out of the UK and even Europland where the european warrent won't be acted upon.

I think its a personal attack on this guy after all the 'trouble' he's caused governments, and they're just pulling strings from one side to the other in oder to get him in jail. If the UK police force can't see that happening and don't investigate it this side before handing him over, I'd have to say that the UK Police force have bent to the hand of the government here to get him jailed for sexual abuse charges.

Does anyone else find it weird that someone who was a rapist would go on about releasing 'hidden truths' and letting public know about wrong doing? karma or just the government trying to sweep the mess under the carpet?

sagum said,
Does anyone else find it weird that someone who was a rapist would go on about releasing 'hidden truths' and letting public know about wrong doing? karma or just the government trying to sweep the mess under the carpet?
I would think it's pretty obvious that he's being framed. How convenient that after his website has been attacked on a massive scale, he then loses his DNS host, and now he's facing new rape charges??? Come on people! Open your eyes.

Tim Dawg said,
I would think it's pretty obvious that he's being framed. How convenient that after his website has been attacked on a massive scale, he then loses his DNS host, and now he's facing new rape charges??? Come on people! Open your eyes.

Exactly. Why come foward after the fact and scream "rape". Or was this done before all this?

presence06 said,

Exactly. Why come foward after the fact and scream "rape". Or was this done before all this?


He's not being charged with rape. He's being charged with "sex by surprise", a crime that has a $700 fine as a penalty. If he was really being framed, I think they would try something that actually would land him in jail.

Tim Dawg said,
I would think it's pretty obvious that he's being framed. How convenient that after his website has been attacked on a massive scale, he then loses his DNS host, and now he's facing new rape charges??? Come on people! Open your eyes.

this has been long known he was wanted, way before the recent leaks.

Tim Dawg said,
I would think it's pretty obvious that he's being framed. How convenient that after his website has been attacked on a massive scale, he then loses his DNS host, and now he's facing new rape charges??? Come on people! Open your eyes.

Yeah people open your eyes, you can't be bothered to read that these charges came prior to the leaks, open your eyes!

Initial rape allegations were in August, now can someone do the math, is August before or after November. How are many criminals caught? Oh yeah they do really stupid stuff, why is this holy man unable to make the same mistakes?

I am not saying anything to the validity of the charges unlike most of the clairvoyants I have seen on these or other boards.

schubb2003 said,
Initial rape allegations were in August, now can someone do the math, is August before or after November. How are many criminals caught? Oh yeah they do really stupid stuff, why is this holy man unable to make the same mistakes?
Yes, but they were dropped and then proceedings were reopened a long time later in a completely different city, which strikes me as being the result of political pressure.

theyarecomingforyou said,
Yes, but they were dropped and then proceedings were reopened a long time later in a completely different city, which strikes me as being the result of political pressure.

So never in history has a case been dropped until more investigation was completed? This happens all the time...

schubb2003 said,

So never in history has a case been dropped until more investigation was completed? This happens all the time...

You're forgetting that this isn't the first set of embarassing leaks. I'm sure the video released earlier this year put Assange on the radar.

Tim Dawg said,
I would think it's pretty obvious that he's being framed. How convenient that after his website has been attacked on a massive scale, he then loses his DNS host, and now he's facing new rape charges??? Come on people! Open your eyes.

You sound awfully sure that the United States government (or a part thereof) is behind all the trouble that WL (and Assange) is having. This is the same United States government that can't find *anything* to charge Assange with. Nothing at all. The Iranians have called for Assange's death - and they do have a tradition of successful *executive action* (Salman Rushdie notwithstanding). The PRC isn't happy with Assange, either. Yet you would suggest that it's the United States (who at worst suffered from mild embarrassment) that is behind all of Assange's/WikiLeaks' grief. You sound like a left-wing paranoid - a liberal version of (hold on to your hacamore!) *Glenn Beck*!

What utter stupidity the British Gov is showing, there is NO reason what so ever to hold him for 7 days thats is just simply retarded.

Fubar said,
What utter stupidity the British Gov is showing, there is NO reason what so ever to hold him for 7 days thats is just simply retarded.

Um, I believe there was a warrant for his arrest which had effect over all of the EU. So, the police are only doing their job.

He's also been denied bail, so will need to remain in custody until his trial. Fail to see how thats British Government fail...

Fubar said,
What utter stupidity the British Gov is showing, there is NO reason what so ever to hold him for 7 days thats is just simply retarded.

True. It should be much longer than 7 days. Thankfully, if he fights going back to Sweden, it probably will be.

Nice picture by the way. Maybe it's just me, but he looks creepy. Not someone I'd leave alone with a child, that's for sure.

COKid said,

True. It should be much longer than 7 days. Thankfully, if he fights going back to Sweden, it probably will be.

Nice picture by the way. Maybe it's just me, but he looks creepy. Not someone I'd leave alone with a child, that's for sure.

I could say the same for Obama.

and we would be just flamebaiting...

Fubar said,
What utter stupidity the British Gov is showing, there is NO reason what so ever to hold him for 7 days thats is just simply retarded.

This is nothing to do with the Government, the police's operational activities and judiciary are independent. And if I were the judge, I'd probably refuse bail too.

Fubar said,
What utter stupidity the British Gov is showing, there is NO reason what so ever to hold him for 7 days thats is just simply retarded.

I think the government i doing just fine, as Assange has planned they did. IF something happens to him, while he is in UK custody, given the fact that UK and US have tight relations ( I just don't know what country screws the other), hell will brake loose. Assange is in the best situation possible, given the fact that US officials have called him a terrorist and an enemy combatant. He will be the best guarded person in the world after Obama

Fubar said,
What utter stupidity the British Gov is showing, there is NO reason what so ever to hold him for 7 days thats is just simply retarded.

Rape is a pretty serious crime. And nobody really know what happened. He could be guilty.

Fubar said,
What utter stupidity the British Gov is showing, there is NO reason what so ever to hold him for 7 days thats is just simply retarded.

Yeah that'd be no then, not to mention the fact that you don't know whether he has done it. I support the Wikileaks, but have seen what rape does to a person, and as the original charges were before the original release then to hell with it, the police and judge are doing what the should be doing and I for one am thankful they are doing what they should be for once

Captain555 said,

Rape is a pretty serious crime. And nobody really know what happened. He could be guilty.

Yeah, and by comment of the Swedish authorities, the only charges against him are two accounts of not using a condom. Punishable by.....


a fine.

Do your research people. He had consensual sex with two different women, and later did them without a condom, which, by Swedish law, is illegal if condom usage is requested. Although it's not as if they resisted and he pursued. I'm really not surprised that this particular fact as been buried, though.

Fubar said,
What utter stupidity the British Gov is showing, there is NO reason what so ever to hold him for 7 days thats is just simply retarded.

And your a pinhead. . . . Congratulations

Recon415 said,

Yeah, and by comment of the Swedish authorities, the only charges against him are two accounts of not using a condom. Punishable by.....


a fine.

Do your research people. He had consensual sex with two different women, and later did them without a condom, which, by Swedish law, is illegal if condom usage is requested. Although it's not as if they resisted and he pursued. I'm really not surprised that this particular fact as been buried, though.

Buried, nothing. He still broke the law. It may be a stupid (in your opinion) law; however, the Swedes don't think it's stupid. If you have a problem with the law, and you are Swedish, work to get the law repealed (good luck with that; I actually understand the reasoning behind the law; it's a public-health matter, and an understandable one given Scandinavian laws (or lack thereof) on sexual conduct otherwise). Ignorance of the law is no more an excuse in Sweden than it is anywhere else.

Captain555 said,

Rape is a pretty serious crime. And nobody really know what happened. He could be guilty.

Rape is a serious crime, however that is not what Assange is being held for. He is being tried for sex crimes. The victim "victim" herself said the sex was consensual.

COKid said,

True. It should be much longer than 7 days. Thankfully, if he fights going back to Sweden, it probably will be.


No, it won't. The level of "sex crime" he's accused of will result in a fine at best, according to our (Swedish) law. Probably not even that. It's about a condom that broke, and in hindsight did the woman want him tested for STD's. They didn't even part ways in anger, but as friends. She even made him breakfast the morning after. And that's it.

PGHammer said,

Buried, nothing. He still broke the law.


That's not clear yet. He's wanted in Sweden for questioning. There has been no ruling that he has broken any law. He may not even be fined. I find it strange if he would, since the sex was consensual and they parted ways on friendly terms. Hell, the girl even wanted him to call back as he left!

In my opinion, the only crackhead in this case is the prosecutor. The chief prosecutor already dropped the case (the girl has wanted Assange *tested* not prosecuted), which should normally have been the end of this farce.