Microsoft lost mobile market share in last quarter

While Microsoft has high hopes for the upcoming "Mango" update for its Windows Phone 7 operating system, the current version of the OS is losing users, at least according to a new study from Comscore. The organization sent out a press release this week that used a survey of over 30,0000 mobile phone customers in June to show that the Android operating system from Google is now being used by over a third of all smartphone users.

By contrast, Windows Phone 7 + Windows Mobile was used by just 5.8 percent of all smartphone users. That's down from 7.5 percent of customers in March 2011. Android smartphone users actually went up from 34.7 percent in March to 40.1 percent in June. Apple's iOS showed a slight increase in the survey, from 25.5. percent of smartphone users in March to 26.6 percent in June. RIM's Blackberry OS lost ground in the survey, from 27.1 percent in March to 23.4 percent in June. Only Nokia's Symbian OS was used less than Windows Phone. The survey shows that it went down from 2.3 percent in March to just 2 percent in June.

Moble phones (not just smartphones) made by Samsung were on top in the survey with 25.3 percent of users surveyed owning a Samsung based mobile phone. LG was second at 21.3 percent followed by Motorola at 14.5. percent. Apple, which only makes smartphones, was fourth on the list at 8.9 percent and RIM was fifth at 7.9 percent. Comscore says that currently 234 million US citizens age 13 and older used some kind of mobile device.

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Comscore have released their monthly US smartphone subscriber numbers and for the first time in a long time it did not show a decline in the number of people using phones running Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7.

The news may herald the long awaited point at which the number of Windows Mobile users who convert to other mobile operating systems like iPhone and Android is exceeded by the number of new Windows Phone 7 owners.

The achievement is in the face of a rapidly growing smartphone market itself, which grew 8% over the last 3 months in USA, meaning the combined total of Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7 users did not just remains static, but last month in fact grew at the same rate as the overall market did, around 2%.

Over the same period Android climbed 2%, while Apple also remained stable at 26.6%. RIM on the other hand fell 1.3% and Palm 0.2%.

If this the long awaited turn around? We shall find out next month.


wp7 will go nowhere. I'm a user, and i love it, but stores don't. futureshop, best buy, local stores, none of them have any wp7 units displayed, or on. people will argue you out of purchasing it. until ms fixes the retail issue, they're going nowhere .

sweatshopking said,
wp7 will go nowhere. I'm a user, and i love it, but stores don't. futureshop, best buy, local stores, none of them have any wp7 units displayed, or on. people will argue you out of purchasing it. until ms fixes the retail issue, they're going nowhere .

They also didn't love Android when it first came out either. They had to get incentives to promote it.

BTW this is something that is a commonly known issue, and there's actually a name & shame website out there dedicated to retailers who steer customers away from WP7 deliberately. MS is also aware of that site & mining it for data.

Mountain Dew said,

They also didn't love Android when it first came out either. They had to get incentives to promote it.

Android had 10% market share after 8 months, thats double what WP7 COMBINED with Windows Mobile has now, 8 months after WP7 launch...

WP7 is doing horrible, theres no if ands or buts

Everything is OK...Windows Mobile is loosing marketshare faster then WP7 grows...also the title is right. Windows Mobile has been renamed to Windows Phone Classis...

bluefisch200 said,
Everything is OK...Windows Mobile is loosing marketshare faster then WP7 grows...also the title is right. Windows Mobile has been renamed to Windows Phone Classis...

"While Microsoft has high hopes for the upcoming "Mango" update for its Windows Phone 7 operating system, the current version of the OS is losing users"

The author was / still is incorrect, and his title was written assuming evidently that it was reffering only to WP7.

M_Lyons10 said,
Interesting, since other such reports have had conflicting results. This one seems rather oddly skewed...

Interesting indeed... Source please?

Customization is overrated. Some still don't get it! History has shown how standardization wins it all, while customization and personalization will begin by capturing people's attention, but eventually will prove to be too troublesome for ordinary users who look for universally accessible features, everywhere.

The whole Windows operating system concept from UI's to functionalities, on servers, desktops, personal devices or other platforms, is standardization. Now someone mentioned Windows Mobile as an extension to their desktop operating system, we're on the right track.

Mind you the real threat is when those live tiles make their way into the Windows desktop operating system. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 7.5 will be a deadly combination!

The magic word today is connectivity (it was integration several years ago, and they've done it with their transition from applications to services) and it's not hard to see that Microsoft holds huge advantages over its competitors at this moment, once again, on a conceptual level for the time being. It isn't difficult at all to see where they're going with all of their operating systems, software suites, and services...

coolvi said,
Customization is overrated. Some still don't get it! History has shown how standardization wins it all, while customization and personalization will begin by capturing people's attention, but eventually will prove to be too troublesome for ordinary users who look for universally accessible features, everywhere.

The whole Windows operating system concept from UI's to functionalities, on servers, desktops, personal devices or other platforms, is standardization. Now someone mentioned Windows Mobile as an extension to their desktop operating system, we're on the right track.

Mind you the real threat is when those live tiles make their way into the Windows desktop operating system. Windows 8 and Windows Phone 7.5 will be a deadly combination!

The magic word today is connectivity (it was integration several years ago, and they've done it with their transition from applications to services) and it's not hard to see that Microsoft holds huge advantages over its competitors at this moment, once again, on a conceptual level for the time being. It isn't difficult at all to see where they're going with all of their operating systems, software suites, and services...

This.

Especially the line about Live Tiles on Windows 8, that will make Windows Phone 7 the "Extension of the Desktop", WP7 is already the "Extension of the Xbox 360" with Live support. Windows Phone ties the services together but needs the Metro UI and Live Tiles in Windows 8 to bring the ecosystems together.

Personally I don't know anybody that carries a Windows Phone. All of my business partners abandoned Windows Mobile after the Windows Phone announcement at Mobile World Congress when we collectively cringed when Joe Belfiore repeatedly said on stage "it's a phone, not a PC". For our group that's when the "Pocket PC" died and we started focusing on a future built on Android.

Our customers and developers aren't interested in glorified cell phones, we want to harnest the power of a personal computer in the smallest and most convenient form factor. That's why iOS and Android are winning.

WJrandon said,
Personally I don't know anybody that carries a Windows Phone. All of my business partners abandoned Windows Mobile after the Windows Phone announcement at Mobile World Congress when we collectively cringed when Joe Belfiore repeatedly said on stage "it's a phone, not a PC". For our group that's when the "Pocket PC" died and we started focusing on a future built on Android.

Our customers and developers aren't interested in glorified cell phones, we want to harnest the power of a personal computer in the smallest and most convenient form factor. That's why iOS and Android are winning.

Ever wonder why Android has such poor performance though?

It's trying to be "Linux on phone hardware" that's why Android devices that have the same hardware as current Windows Phones are so slow.

iOS on the other hand is based on Mac OS but it doesn't try to BE "Mac OS on phone hardware".

You should know that even Windows Mobile wasn't a "PC in your pocket" the core of the OS is Windows CE, yes Windows Compact Edition, an OS designed for Mobile Devices.

Therefore WP7 is no different seeing as it's essentially a Windows CE 6/7 hybrid, it has the same capabilities as the old "Pocket PC" it's just that not all of the features are exposed to the end user yet.

Edited by neo158, Aug 7 2011, 2:45pm :

From my observations the only reason WM7 would have faster performance on the same hardware would be because MS stripped down the GUI to the barebones there aren't customizable interfaces or widgets to be found. However, on high-end Android devices with 1Ghz or dual-core CPU's there's no sluggish performance to be found.

Windows Mobile was marketed as an extension to the Windows PC desktop (only to business users) as Windows CE PDAs back in the day was the alternative to Palm Pilots. It's no secret WP7 is Microsoft's attempt to capture consumers markets, whereas Windows Mobile was never marketed to consumers. However my clients desire real power behind their devices and IMO Microsoft striped too much of that 'power, choice, and customization' from Windows Phone 7 to appease soccer moms rather than power-users and corporations that need a meet a certain level of flexibility.

WJrandon said,
From my observations the only reason WM7 would have faster performance on the same hardware would be because MS stripped down the GUI to the barebones there aren't customizable interfaces or widgets to be found. However, on high-end Android devices with 1Ghz or dual-core CPU's there's no sluggish performance to be found.

Windows Mobile was marketed as an extension to the Windows PC desktop (only to business users) as Windows CE PDAs back in the day was the alternative to Palm Pilots. It's no secret WP7 is Microsoft's attempt to capture consumers markets, whereas Windows Mobile was never marketed to consumers. However my clients desire real power behind their devices and IMO Microsoft striped too much of that 'power, choice, and customization' from Windows Phone 7 to appease soccer moms rather than power-users and corporations that need a meet a certain level of flexibility.

Windows Phone 7 was never aimed at business users to start with, why do you think they still support Windows Mobile 6.5?

That's the difference, WP7 is aimed at consumers. who don't need the extra bloat of business tools slowing the OS to a crawl.

As for Android being fast on a 1GHz processor you're joking, right. My HTC Desire has the same processor as the HD7 and the Desire is slower than a tortoise walking through treacle, there's nothing wrong with the hardware it's just that Android lacks any form of hardware acceleration in the GUI.

TBH I don't really care if I can have over 9000 widgets or customisable interfaces, I want a phone that's fast and does what it's supposed to do with a minimum of fuss. Live tiles are the equivalent of widgets, the only difference is that information can't be input into them but they give you the information you need, when you need it, this is the whole Glance and Go idea that Microsoft have for WP7.

Microsoft are right, it's a phone, not a PC.

Perhaps you have installed applications that are over exhorting the resources on the Desire. Your experience is fortunately not the norm, but hey to each his own. Our company is drawn to strapping hotrods to our waist and so far it appears customers and sales figures agree. Microsoft took a wrong turn in 2009.

neo158 said,

Ever wonder why Android has such poor performance though?

It's trying to be "Linux on phone hardware" that's why Android devices that have the same hardware as current Windows Phones are so slow.

iOS on the other hand is based on Mac OS but it doesn't try to BE "Mac OS on phone hardware".

You should know that even Windows Mobile wasn't a "PC in your pocket" the core of the OS is Windows CE, yes Windows Compact Edition, an OS designed for Mobile Devices.

Therefore WP7 is no different seeing as it's essentially a Windows CE 6/7 hybrid, it has the same capabilities as the old "Pocket PC" it's just that not all of the features are exposed to the end user yet.

I am sorry but it does not; WM 6.5.3 allows me to do more than WP7. The concept behind the latter is much more restrictive than the former. Now this will fit some people needs but will not the ones of others.
Besides I do have a HD7 running the latest build of Mango.

Fritzly said,

I am sorry but it does not; WM 6.5.3 allows me to do more than WP7. The concept behind the latter is much more restrictive than the former. Now this will fit some people needs but will not the ones of others.
Besides I do have a HD7 running the latest build of Mango.

"Therefore WP7 is no different seeing as it's essentially a Windows CE 6/7 hybrid, it has the same capabilities as the old "Pocket PC" it's just that not all of the features are exposed to the end user yet."

What part of that is hard to understand?

Windows Phone 7 IS a Windows CE 6/7 hybrid so the same capabilities are there in the core of the OS.

I don't think anyone here should be surprised. Android has something that no other smartphone has. And that is choice. Android has different form factors of phones, models and frameworks. If you don't know what frameworks are, let me dumb it down for you. You probably would call it skins (and you shouldn't). So HTC has the Sense Framework, Samsung has the TouchWiz Framework and Motorola has the MotoBlur framework. Right now, WP7 can not differentiate itself from other manufacturers. What you see on an HTC WP7 is what you get on other WP7 manufactured phones.

I know a lot of the WP7 fanboys think Mango is the savior (or when Nokia starts selling phones). But IMO, at least in the U.S., it will not make one bit of difference until Microsoft allows customization of the OS.

UndergroundWire said,
I don't think anyone here should be surprised. Android has something that no other smartphone has. And that is choice. Android has different form factors of phones, models and frameworks. If you don't know what frameworks are, let me dumb it down for you. You probably would call it skins (and you shouldn't). So HTC has the Sense Framework, Samsung has the TouchWiz Framework and Motorola has the MotoBlur framework. Right now, WP7 can not differentiate itself from other manufacturers. What you see on an HTC WP7 is what you get on other WP7 manufactured phones.

I know a lot of the WP7 fanboys think Mango is the savior (or when Nokia starts selling phones). But IMO, at least in the U.S., it will not make one bit of difference until Microsoft allows customization of the OS.

That's the beauty of WP7 though, I can go from my HTC HD7 to a Dell Venue Pro and not have to learn an entirely new UI, unlike Android where going from an HTC Desire to a Samsung Galaxy S II would require learning how to use TouchWiz.

Don't forget though that the figures mention only Microsoft, that means they combined Windows Mobile and Windows Phone into one number and Windows Mobile is the one losing market share but it's not being balanced out by WP7 sales at the moment. No one, including you, knows whether Mango will be a game changer at the moment, lets wait and see.

UndergroundWire said,
I don't think anyone here should be surprised. Android has something that no other smartphone has. And that is choice. Android has different form factors of phones, models and frameworks. If you don't know what frameworks are, let me dumb it down for you. You probably would call it skins (and you shouldn't). So HTC has the Sense Framework, Samsung has the TouchWiz Framework and Motorola has the MotoBlur framework. Right now, WP7 can not differentiate itself from other manufacturers. What you see on an HTC WP7 is what you get on other WP7 manufactured phones.

I know a lot of the WP7 fanboys think Mango is the savior (or when Nokia starts selling phones). But IMO, at least in the U.S., it will not make one bit of difference until Microsoft allows customization of the OS.

Actually that's Sense UI (that's what HTC calls it) and those are not frameworks, but User Interfaces (hence Sense UI). To call them frameworks shows you have no idea what a framework is.

Mountain Dew said,

Actually that's Sense UI (that's what HTC calls it) and those are not frameworks, but User Interfaces (hence Sense UI). To call them frameworks shows you have no idea what a framework is.

They are frameworks. Please learn the facts. Sense Framework has a UI, apps, and tightly integrated with their version of Android. It's a common mistake people make don't feel bad.

neo158 said,

That's the beauty of WP7 though, I can go from my HTC HD7 to a Dell Venue Pro and not have to learn an entirely new UI, unlike Android where going from an HTC Desire to a Samsung Galaxy S II would require learning how to use TouchWiz.

Don't forget though that the figures mention only Microsoft, that means they combined Windows Mobile and Windows Phone into one number and Windows Mobile is the one losing market share but it's not being balanced out by WP7 sales at the moment. No one, including you, knows whether Mango will be a game changer at the moment, lets wait and see.

Thank you for that delightful summary. People like me stick with one type of Android Manufacturer because they love that particular framework. I love Sense. The UI is amazing the apps are a lot better, the integrated voice mail is great. I would never go with any other manufacturer (other than a Nexus).

You see how each manufacturer is easily distinguished now to a consumer? So does it really matter if WP7 have many phones with one carrier? Why would Verizon pay for phones that look like each other (unless they get it at discount)? Take a look at each network (Verizon for example). Name one phone that is like any of there phones in there line up. For example is there anything like the Thunderbolt or Droid Incredible 2. Next if there is something like it, is it a refresh from last years model? You will see how there are several phones in one carrier that are Android but they are really not the same.

This is why Android is successful and why WP7 can NEVER expect that until Microsoft allows customization. You can hope on Mango to save WP7, hell you can even hope for Nokia to be the savior. But I don't see it happening until Microsoft allows customization.

Don't take it personal, this is my opinion and I'm sure it's debatable but I truly can not see Microsoft making any kind of impact on the market if each manufacturer can't distinguish it's self from the other, other than form factor (4.3" screen, 3" Screen, Physical keyboard, etc..)

UndergroundWire said,

They are frameworks. Please learn the facts. Sense Framework has a UI, apps, and tightly integrated with their version of Android. It's a common mistake people make don't feel bad.

No, it's a User Interface, not a framework. It's called Sense UI, not Sense Framework.

The UI & widgets are built using a heavily modified version of Google's framework.

I've only been a professional in the industry for well over a decade doing programming & UX design work...what would I know?


BTW to address the following post, 'the apps are a lot better'? WTF. The apps are the same, unless you're talking about the few HTC specific apps & widgets, but the app marketplace is the app marketplace.

Also Nexus isn't a manufacturer, it's a model, made by Google.

Mountain Dew said,

No, it's a User Interface, not a framework. It's called Sense UI, not Sense Framework.

The UI & widgets are built using a heavily modified version of Google's framework.

I've only been a professional in the industry for well over a decade doing programming & UX design work...what would I know?


BTW to address the following post, 'the apps are a lot better'? WTF. The apps are the same, unless you're talking about the few HTC specific apps & widgets, but the app marketplace is the app marketplace.

Also Nexus isn't a manufacturer, it's a model, made by Google.

Sense has a heavy UI customization but apps such as the email, messaging, calendar, voice mail, Twitter, Facebook, etc.. are ONLY available on SENSE ROMs. Please try to learn this instead of making up your own fantasy.

Can we please put this to rest now. Jesus Christ a simple Google Search would have educated you already. Maybe you are using Bing and couldn't find the results perhaps. Then I guess you get a pass.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3933
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818136
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096400

Also check out http://www.htcdev.com/ they now have a way for you to "legally" change Sense ROMs.

When I said Nexus, I didn't mean as a manufacturer. Since Nexus can be HTC, Samsung and probably Motorola, I just left it open. Nexus phones are as Vanilla as you get with Android. All other phones that are not Nexus Branded (for the exception of the Original Droid) are built with the manufacturers own frameworks.

You can not use A Sense Widget on a non Sense ROM. You can not use a MOTOBLUR widget on a non Motorola phone. Are you getting it now?

Edited by UndergroundWire, Aug 8 2011, 5:12pm :

mamacita42 said,
Why does the headline say WP7 loses marketshare when we all know it's Windows Mobile that's declining?

that's marketshare lol

mamacita42 said,

that's marketshare lol

You didn't read. Windows Phone is not Windows Mobile. Windows Mobile has lost ground, Windows Phone has gone up. The reason the overall number is down is because people are leaving Windows Mobile faster than Windows Phone is being adopted. This trend is now at an end since the last 2 months have had the same combined WM/WP share percentage. That means Windows Phone will now grow at a faster rate than WM is hemorrhaging users.

Mountain Dew said,

You didn't read. Windows Phone is not Windows Mobile. Windows Mobile has lost ground, Windows Phone has gone up. The reason the overall number is down is because people are leaving Windows Mobile faster than Windows Phone is being adopted. This trend is now at an end since the last 2 months have had the same combined WM/WP share percentage. That means Windows Phone will now grow at a faster rate than WM is hemorrhaging users.


Well it may or has changed. The Microsoft market share remained the same in May and June. The figure for July will come next month.

http://wmpoweruser.com/rising-...ting-windows-mobile-owners/
The news may herald the long awaited point at which the number of Windows Mobile users who convert to other mobile operating systems like iPhone and Android is exceeded by the number of new Windows Phone 7 owners.

I think this was pointed out on another site that reported on this but the 5.8% for July is the same for June (also 5.8%) so, technically, it hasn't dropped. Sure comparing it to March it has but if the June and July % are the same then it's finally balanced out between WM6 and WP7.

greenwizard88 said,
What's with Neowin's shody journalism? WP7 =/= WM6
Haven't you heard, they are "unprofessional journalist"?
Neowin- Where unprofessional journalism looks better

Well I hope at least with Mango the provide a lot of advertising. Ive never understood this with Microsoft, they have the money, so why put all this work into a product if you are not going to promote it. Do they expect numbers will increase just by word of mouth or a single sign at a cell provider?

So, this is wrong. The original article does NOT say Windows Phone 7. It says Microsoft - which includes Windows Mobile as well.

By most obvious reckoning then, it's most probably Windows Mobile losing the marketshare, of which not all is being picked up by Windows Phone 7 to balance it back out.

~Johnny said,
So, this is wrong. The original article does NOT say Windows Phone 7. It says Microsoft - which includes Windows Mobile as well.

By most obvious reckoning then, it's most probably Windows Mobile losing the marketshare, of which not all is being picked up by Windows Phone 7 to balance it back out.

That's exactly what I was thinking, Windows Mobile has been hemorraging market share for years now anyway and people are/were buying Android devices or the iPhone to replace them.

@JSYOUNG571 Most Windows Mobile 6.5 devices don't even have the minimum requirements for Windows Phone 7 anyway. Dedicated Camera Button, at least a 5MP camera, 1GHz processor, 8GB of storage and three hardware or capacitive buttons on the front and just some of the requirements for WP 7. The only device that meets most of those requirements is the HD2 which can, unofficially, run WP7.

I was about to say the same thing. I remember hearing marketshare numbers a few months ago at around 8% including WinMo, so this is kinda useless information. Bring on Mango .

~Johnny said,
So, this is wrong. The original article does NOT say Windows Phone 7. It says Microsoft - which includes Windows Mobile as well.

By most obvious reckoning then, it's most probably Windows Mobile losing the marketshare, of which not all is being picked up by Windows Phone 7 to balance it back out.


this, and also many people are waiting for Mango release with new phones.

KARMA!!!!!!!! Should have never messed over the Windows Mobile 6.5 customers. Hopefully Microsoft is learning their lesson this time around.

deep1234 said,
Let WP7: Mango officially released, then we will see.

The same was said about WP7 regarding the Windows Phone platform as a whole. And we're still waiting on that to kick off.

Hollow.Droid said,

The same was said about WP7 regarding the Windows Phone platform as a whole. And we're still waiting on that to kick off.

WP7 wasn't even advertised in a lot of countries because it lacked support, it will be now.

DaveGreen said,
NIelsen has another point of view.
http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/?p=28516

That is a combined score of Windows Mobile and Windows Phone 7. Windows Mobile was outselling Windows Phone 7 in the first and second quarter of this year.

Source: http://goo.gl/eMhAn

This effectively means that even in Q1 2011 Windows Mobile outsold Windows Phone 7, which is rather hard to believe, given the massive marketing Microsoft has put into the OS, compared to the Windows Mobile days.

The numbers need more analysis, but the short of it is that consumers are not choosing Windows Phone 7, and that for Microsoft to succeed they need to do everything possible to change it.

I suppose that source is as bogus as Forbes?

30000? Great sample size. I don't know why companies bother posting statistics like this.

Even then it hasn't LOST market share, it's just been outgrown by others.

Alansonit said,
30000? Great sample size. I don't know why companies bother posting statistics like this.

Even then it hasn't LOST market share, it's just been outgrown by others.

HAHAHAHA, oh wait your are being serious.
Back to school you! NOW

Alansonit said,
30000? Great sample size. I don't know why companies bother posting statistics like this.

Even then it hasn't LOST market share, it's just been outgrown by others.

Exactly this "study" is completely bogus.

DaveGreen said,

Exactly this "study" is completely bogus.

Please offer some proof your statement. I can say Nielsen is bogus as well, see I did it

Borix said,

Please offer some proof your statement. I can say Nielsen is bogus as well, see I did it

Nielsen computes share on actual usage and not on small groups of people interviewed. Market share and, thus, usage of some product, is a serious and complex sector of inquiring. So bloggers and journalists can't consider seriously studies who don't compute at least real data.
The example of IE fake survey of some days ago (I immediately recognized it as bogus in many posts around) should have to be taken as a wake up call for mantainign high the right criticism and, considering what's at stake, I have the legitimate suspect that numbers such as in this "study" are driven by other interests and not by logic or scientific methods.

I am personally waiting for nokia to release a wp7 so i can pick one up myself. Having said that, I will admit that even though wp7 with mango update is probably the best OS for phone, it hasnt had a good start. the numbers are down and there is no denying that. that doesnt make it a bad product, just not properly marketed one. Also, the apps scenario isnt that good either right now with wp7.

I could sit here and call this particular survey bogus but the truth still is that wp7 hasnt fared as well as hoped and that's the truth. kinda reminds me of zune right now where it was a superior product to ipods but still didnt do much dent to the marketshare.

d4diesel said,

I could sit here and call this particular survey bogus but the truth still is that wp7 hasnt fared as well as hoped and that's the truth. kinda reminds me of zune right now where it was a superior product to ipods but still didnt do much dent to the marketshare.

And we all know how that went. Microsoft needs to hire the Apple Marketing team.

30,000 ? You may as well just test 10 people. Windows 7 phone has probably lost marketshare but that's predictable due to no new devices and no advertising while other platforms have had plenty of new phones with advertising.

Gaffney said,
30,000 ? You may as well just test 10 people. Windows 7 phone has probably lost marketshare but that's predictable due to no new devices and no advertising while other platforms have had plenty of new phones with advertising.

30000 sounds reasonable sample size or they should have just asked you, right?
First you question the study than you confirm the study, what will it be?
And whose fault is it regarding the advertising and new phones?

Borix said,

30000 sounds reasonable sample size or they should have just asked you, right?
First you question the study than you confirm the study, what will it be?
And whose fault is it regarding the advertising and new phones?

30,000 out of 300 Million+ ? What nation was this done in ? Better to do test in other ways to get sample sizes in the millions. 30,000 will be a bit accurate but only a suggestion, all those stats could easily be + or - 15% of their indicated value.

Gaffney said,
30,000 ? You may as well just test 10 people. Windows 7 phone has probably lost marketshare but that's predictable due to no new devices and no advertising while other platforms have had plenty of new phones with advertising.

Hmm, Did the iPhone loose market share? People know the iPhone 5 is coming out but it's still selling?

Also a 30,000 person survey is a good sample size. You don't make any sense. You've only proved to me that you are a fanboy.

UndergroundWire said,

Hmm, Did the iPhone loose market share? People know the iPhone 5 is coming out but it's still selling?

Also a 30,000 person survey is a good sample size. You don't make any sense. You've only proved to me that you are a fanboy.

If u study market shares 30000 its nothing compares to the rest of USA, thats only 0.0001 percent of people surveyed, that is a bad bad sample if u ask me!

Gaffney said,
30,000 ? You may as well just test 10 people. Windows 7 phone has probably lost marketshare but that's predictable due to no new devices and no advertising while other platforms have had plenty of new phones with advertising.

Yeah, it has nothing to do with that ugly UI that only geeks seem to like.

Ji@nBing said,

Yeah, it has nothing to do with that ugly UI that only geeks seem to like.

+1 Why is it when something negative about Microsoft, the MS Fanboys quickly dismiss it? 30,000 is a good sample size. And the argument that WP7 didn't have any new phones, well neither did Apple and it still went up. Interesting argument.

Ji@nBing said,

Yeah, it has nothing to do with that ugly UI that only geeks seem to like.

Interface is a matter of opinion, being a WP7 user I prefer the interface over iOS and Android (in that order). Your comment smells like a troll.

hynesy said,

Interface is a matter of opinion, being a WP7 user I prefer the interface over iOS and Android (in that order). Your comment smells like a troll.


It seems to be the general consensus. The only people I've seen that like it are the enthusiast types that are into minimal, boring interfaces. The sales data supports this.

Ji@nBing said,

It seems to be the general consensus. The only people I've seen that like it are the enthusiast types that are into minimal, boring interfaces. The sales data supports this.

Now, now. You know you are a troll because your opinion is different than his.

UndergroundWire said,

Now, now. You know you are a troll because your opinion is different than his.

That seems to be the trend these days, doesn't it? Disagree with someone, and you're a troll