Would you buy this Nokia Windows tablet?

Last week, Nokia's outgoing chairman spilled the beans on the company's plans for a range of tablets and 'hybrid' devices. Although Nokia later attempted to distance itself from his comments, let's face it: the arrival of a Nokia tablet is a certainty - a question of when, not if.

Given Nokia's increasingly close and interdependent relationship with Microsoft - not just through Windows Phone, but also with services and software development - it seems equally inevitable that the OS of choice for Nokia's tablets will be Windows. But that's about all we really know about the company's plans for its new slates, and that got us thinking: what could the first Nokia tablet look like?

Something believable

While the web is littered with make-believe devices with wishlist specs that only a fanboy could dream of, we wanted to try to conceive of something a little more grounded in reality. It's just not terribly likely that Nokia's first Windows tablet will have sixteen cores, a 3D 4K-resolution display, telepathic controls and a built-in holodeck - maybe next time around, but for a first-gen device, we're pretty confident that those specs are a bit far-reaching.

In all likelihood, Nokia's first Windows tablet isn't going to have the kind of OTT specs that would make a techie drool, but much like the Lumia range of Windows Phones, we imagine it'll be stunning to look at, with very capable hardware that does everything you could need incredibly well.

So with those caveats established, where did our imagination take us? Well, we've dreamt up a 10.1" Windows RT tablet, called the Nokia Tiviti 9210. Take a look at the pics, scan through the spec sheet below them, and then answer the poll question: would you buy this Nokia tablet?

NOKIA
Tiviti 9210 with Windows RT

Processor: Dual-core 1.5GHz Qualcomm MSM8960 Pro Snapdragon S4
Dimensions: 260.2 x 177.5 x 8.8 mm
Weight: 575g

Display:

  • 10.1" capacitive multitouch display
  • Super IPS+ LCD | ClearBlack | 1920x1200px Full HD
  • Corning Gorilla Glass 2

Storage and memory:

  • 32GB/64GB integrated local storage + SkyDrive cloud storage
  • 1GB SDRAM

Power management:

  • Integrated 7700mAh battery for up to 12 hours of usage

Connectivity:

  • Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)
  • Bluetooth 4.0
  • 4G LTE | UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA | CDMA EV-DO Rev.A | GSM/EDGE
  • DLNA/PlayTo
  • Micro USB
  • 3.5mm AHJ connector

Imaging with Carl Zeiss Optics:

  • Front camera: 2MP for video calling
  • Rear camera: 8MP
  • - Rear F number / aperture: 2.2
  • - Camera focal length: 28mm
  • - Video recording with rear camera, Full HD (1080p) up to 30fps with stereo audio capture

Sensors:

  • Accelerometer | Ambient light sensor | Assisted GPS + GLONASS | Compass | Gyroscope | Proximity sensor

Hardware keys:

  • Power | Volume | Camera | Rotation lock | Windows button

Pricing off-contract:
32GB WiFi + 4G: $499 USD | £449 GBP | €529 EUR | $659 AUD
64GB WiFi + 4G: $629 USD | £549 GBP | €649 EUR | $759 AUD

Remember to answer the poll question - but don't just leave it at that. We want to hear your thoughts about how you might improve the Tiviti 9210 hardware and design, and what you think Nokia needs to make its first real tablet a success.

Join in the discussion on the Neowin Forums right now!

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I read all the specs, and the thing that stood out to me is the price. If the prices were real, it'll be amazing. $499 for a 32GB and 4G equipped model is cheap when an iPad will only get you 16GB and wifi only. Not to mention WinRT tablets will likely come bundled with MS Office for ARM, which represents even greater value!

So much that I doubt such a device will hit that pricing when it is released.

I read somewhere that the Windows RT tablets will have office integrated. If it has got Outlook, OneNote and good browser then I am very close to interested.

I remember alot of people were talking trash about the ipad as just a bigger iphone. This is the same thing, and I would hope Nokia has a little more originality than this.

I'd stand happily in line to buy one of these... Really just makes the iPad look so dated! Nokia and Microsoft together is awesome!

My main concern is RAM. Maybe it'll be thinner/lighter than Windows on x86, but I want to view very large, high-resolution PDFs. I do want to know whether or not I could use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse as well. A nod to Palm/HP's products by including the ability to charge with a touchstone-like product would be fantastic.

Nokia's biggest problem with selling a tablet is the same as every other Android tablet in that its not an iPad (ie, public perception and perceived desirability). Marketing will be very important, as well as a robust line of apps ready to go. Sadly, as a new platform, it'll be at a disadvantage, so Nokia and MS need to really work with popular app makers so at least high-profile ones are on there from the get-go. Additionally, Microsoft needs to do its best to ensure that their app approval process is heralded as being superior/more dev friendly than Apple's, but safer than Google's. It doesn't have to be 100% true necessarily, but they need to spread that message.

Ugly name. Really ugly. Even fans name their concepts like this... whats wrong with the world? Just call it Nokia T9 or something.

Oh, how I would LOVE to! Exceeeept... I want a faster CPU, more RAM, and Windows 8. Please make it happen! The cameras, resolution, design, glass, everything else is perfect.

I would not. WinRT is pointless for me. If I can have tablet apps in Win8 x86 or x64, then I see no reason to stick with ARM. Furthermore, I don't need tablet to have phone capabilities, but I do need a bigger screen (up to 14"); powerful CPU and GPU; at least 4GB RAM; 2,5" removable HDD; wacom (if possible); docking station with additional ports.

I'd be interested in this, with 4G on board as well. I do hope they put a decent resolution on it, like Apple's Retina display.

Looking at the comments here, I have no idea why so many people are jumping onto these tablets. Is it cause they are used in Star Trek, CSI, Sky News or have I generally overlooked a killer feature or function? I would much prefer to buy a notebook or "ultrabook" that has a half decent processor with a ergonomic keyboard built in. I have freedom to load whatever I want onto it, and lasts 3-4 years longer hardware processing wise. Notebooks / "Ultrabooks" may cost a tad more, but they surely are worth it.

ShMaunder said,
Looking at the comments here, I have no idea why so many people are jumping onto these tablets. Is it cause they are used in Star Trek, CSI, Sky News or have I generally overlooked a killer feature or function? I would much prefer to buy a notebook or "ultrabook" that has a half decent processor with a ergonomic keyboard built in. I have freedom to load whatever I want onto it, and lasts 3-4 years longer hardware processing wise. Notebooks / "Ultrabooks" may cost a tad more, but they surely are worth it.

I think tablets are aimed towards different people. I like both ultrabooks and tablets, though I guess for practicality, I'd buy an ultrabook first. However, tablets offer better portablility for on-the-go uses, specs are getting better (you could also potentially run Windows 8), and you can pair an ergonomic Bluetooth keyboard if you needed it. If you don't need it, it's not going to get in the way of portability.

But I strongly doubt that they're gonna release something like that as their first tablet. I told this to a friend of a cousin's neighbor's friend and he agrees.

I would get it if it has a dock. No dock, no buy.

But then again, I'd be happy with a tablet that has WP7's specs, if it had a dock. And a 7"-10" screen.

Let's now hope a Nokia exec reads Neowin and takes a note what the tech community wants!

I've been patiently waiting for a windows tablet for god knows how long and such a Nokia device would be a great option

Now let's dream up an HTC Windows tablet, HTC ONE T!

Defiantly not as my main system, but as a second machine for email, surfing... I would. The only thing that would stop me is the lack of USB and SD.

I think the device looks good.

But I want to hear more about how Win8 actually does on a tablet (not impressed by it on the desktop in any way) and how's the performance on WinRT. It's also worth remembering that RT doesn't afaik run the same programs as the x86 versions.

Pricing off-contract:

That right there is why it will fail....just like the android tablet market has. This looks like it has the potential to be a huge hit but I shouldn't have to sign another contract just to own it. That is one of the best things Apple did with the iPad...no contracts.

BlendedFrog said,

That right there is why it will fail....just like the android tablet market has. This looks like it has the potential to be a huge hit but I shouldn't have to sign another contract just to own it. That is one of the best things Apple did with the iPad...no contracts.

You do realize what off-contract means right?

OH GOD IF YOU ARE SEEING THIS NOKIA (PROBABLY NOT) PLEASE PLEASE MAKE SOMETHING EXACTLY LIKE THIS!!!!!! Do to the ipad like you did to the iphone with your Lumia range.

Geez that must have took a whole 30 seconds of innovative thought and photoshopping to create. Would I buy a bright coloured piece of crap running windows 8 ? no.

If this was made of polycarbonate, it'd most likely be the heaviest tablet on the market. And capable of killing small children if it fell on them

I would but not at that price and not with the camera specs. I would like the camera spec to be higher like 5MP in the front and like 8 or 10MP on the back with a price of under $300.

It says Windows RT, so no. If I ever buy a Windows tablet (in this generation anyway) it'll be using the full Windows 8, and doing so it'll have to have at least 10 hours battery life. (Yea, I know, I'll never buy a Windows tablet )

No. In my opinion Windows 8 is a poor desktop/tablet crossbreed OS that doesn't excel in either areas. I don't want a tablet where I'll unwantedly end up in the desktop environment with apps that aren't optimized for touch input.

.Neo said,
No. In my opinion Windows 8 is a poor desktop/tablet crossbreed OS that doesn't excel in either areas. I don't want a tablet where I'll unwantedly end up in the desktop environment with apps that aren't optimized for touch input.

This would be running Windows RT - hence no desktop apps.

.Neo said,
I don't want a tablet where I'll unwantedly end up in the desktop environment with apps that aren't optimized for touch input.

The only app that will open the desktop is Office... hardly anything to complain about.

.Neo said,
No. In my opinion Windows 8 is a poor desktop/tablet crossbreed OS that doesn't excel in either areas. I don't want a tablet where I'll unwantedly end up in the desktop environment with apps that aren't optimized for touch input.

Wait for the store to be flooded with apps. That was the advantage of the iPad. It had already thousands of hunderds of apps already available (even if they were iTouch optimized).
Imagine having a tablet without enough Apps.

.Neo said,
No. In my opinion Windows 8 is a poor desktop/tablet crossbreed OS that doesn't excel in either areas. I don't want a tablet where I'll unwantedly end up in the desktop environment with apps that aren't optimized for touch input.

Huh? There is no desktop in win RT and because it runs on ARM, x86 programs won't run on it anyway. Are you sure you know about these stuff?

i recommend an increase in the hardware spec.. 1.5 GHz Quad Core with 2 GB of RAM, Memory Card Slot and NFC will do well in attracting the customers

kvnrprabhu said,
i recommend an increase in the hardware spec.. 1.5 GHz Quad Core with 2 GB of RAM, Memory Card Slot and NFC will do well in attracting the customers

I like these specs a little better and they're not far reaching either. I still would like there to be one slot for USB for flash drive support. I'd like to be able to transfer stuff back and forth between tablet and PC, PS3/360 or other devices.

Kristiyan Bogdanov said,
Why does EVERYBODY think that the first NOKIA tablet's design will be N9/Lumia 800/900 based??! It is so naïve!!!

But I love how my Lumia 800 looks like Time will tell.

Kristiyan Bogdanov said,
Why does EVERYBODY think that the first NOKIA tablet's design will be N9/Lumia 800/900 based??! It is so naïve!!!

Because in fact, it's possible. And they won many awards with this design. So why not use it while it's hot? :-)

I wouldn't mind.

Win RT is lil saddening , i had plans of syncing my iPad using this device
Unless MS decides to allow "some" Win32 apps... Also Firefox etc won't be coming to WinRT , so again its not "that" good, any android tab at much cheaper price would have more apps anyways , and a similar looking theme. I am waiting for real Win32 tabs..

bogas04 said,
Win RT is lil saddening , i had plans of syncing my iPad using this device
Unless MS decides to allow "some" Win32 apps... Also Firefox etc won't be coming to WinRT , so again its not "that" good, any android tab at much cheaper price would have more apps anyways , and a similar looking theme. I am waiting for real Win32 tabs..

But Win32 apps fail/ are not very user-friendly on tablets so I'll happily buy this thing !

Jarrichvdv said,

But Win32 apps fail/ are not very user-friendly on tablets so I'll happily buy this thing !

USB keyboard + mouse = awesomeness . 'nough said.

bogas04 said,

USB keyboard + mouse = awesomeness . 'nough said.

So you plan on carrying them wherever you go? Buy a laptop then. Much easier.

bogas04 said,
Also Firefox etc won't be coming to WinRT

Can we please stop propagating this lie? FireFox WILL be on Windows RT as a Metro app.

The only limitation is that there won't be ANY (as in, not just browsers) desktop apps allowed. I don't even think it's been confirmed that Windows RT will have a desktop version of IE

Jarrichvdv said,

But Win32 apps fail/ are not very user-friendly on tablets so I'll happily buy this thing !

I have used a Tablet for the last ten years, it replaced my laptop actually, and I had no issue with win32 apps............
Now if you are talking about a device with touch screen it would be a different story but, for example, I would never trade the pen for touch.......

xpclient said,
No I will be happy with a $2000 laptop that does more for me.

I will just buy a new x86 Convertible tablet to replace my actual one; no need for a phone on steroids......

Metka said,
It looks great, but is 1GB of RAM enough?

I see no reason why not? Win7 runs fine on 1GB and Win8 uses less resources than 7 so it should be fine. The only question is the graphics ability of the SoC, people who care about that might want to see what an nVidia based Tegra tablet could do.

GP007 said,

Win7 runs fine on 1GB and Win8 uses less resources than 7 so it should be fine.

I hope they know what they're doing. I consider 1GB Win 7 barely usable - you can easily run out of memory

Metka said,

I hope they know what they're doing. I consider 1GB Win 7 barely usable - you can easily run out of memory

It's not running x86 windows, this is running the ARM version of windows it's system requirements are lower and you can't run desktop apps on it so it would be harder to use ram in any case.

Metka said,

I hope they know what they're doing. I consider 1GB Win 7 barely usable - you can easily run out of memory

For the normal desktop sure you can, but we're talking a Windows RT tablet running Metro apps which don't tend to use lots of RAM like their Win32 x86 counterparts. On the other hand they also get suspended once you move away from them, and though they're still held in memory until you run low and they're closed automatically, it's done in a way that you don't lose anything in the process data wise.

All in all I think the memory footprint of the ARM version will be even lighter than the x86 version so it shouldn't be much of a problem at all.

GP007 said,

For the normal desktop sure you can, but we're talking a Windows RT tablet running Metro apps which don't tend to use lots of RAM like their Win32 x86 counterparts. On the other hand they also get suspended once you move away from them, and though they're still held in memory until you run low and they're closed automatically, it's done in a way that you don't lose anything in the process data wise.

Metro apps - especially XAML based ones, use far,far more RAM than their Win32 counterparts Still, their paging system for WinRT apps should help offset that.

Thank you very much and have a good day... is what I'll be saying to the person at the store if this is ever released.

Neobond said,
Pricing isn't always the same in different countries (see the Euro example, which is more expensive than the dollar!)
He said, "at the moment."

jusD said,
The Aussie Dollar has parity with the US at the moment !

In Australia we always get ripped off for technology. Our government is actually running an enquiry at the moment as to why products from companies such as Apple and Microsoft are always much more expensive here than in the US.

The old argument used to be AUD + shipping costs to Australia. Both arguments no longer hold water as the AUD is above parity and much of the software is simply downloaded. No more excuses except for things that really do involve actual physical shipping. Even Steve Wozniak came out recently and admitted Aussies get ripped off.

Randall_Lind said,
No Windows phone or Tablet for me. I will wait fof Windows 9 when they bring back DOS don't care for the revamp Windows 3.1 UI.

You won't ever see DOS on ARM

Xerax said,

You'd want Windows 7 on that? Really good idea.

W7 works very well on my Tablet.............. if he does not like W8 why not use W7?
Again it works very well...................................

Fritzly said,

W7 works very well on my Tablet.............. if he does not like W8 why not use W7?
Again it works very well...................................


I have a Samsung 7 Series Slate. And it came with Win7. Win7 touch controls are bad, Windows 8 is a dream to use on my Slate.

deadonthefloor said,

Besides the fact Windows 7 won't run on a WIndows RT device.


True but for me my Tablet is a replacement for the laptop therefore a RT device is not an option.

Morden said,
shut up and take my money!!!

For this price? Take my money!

But I'm sure it would cost at least £100 more than this.