Zombified kill switch/SOPA bill in the works

If you thought the web was safe from SOPA, think again. According to RT, details are starting to leak out of Washington about a low profile bill being prepared by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and others. And get this – not only does it revive SOPA, but it also contains provisions similar to the Kill Switch bill from a while back.

According to leaks, the bill will put the executive branch (I.E. the White House) in charge of the internet and cybersecurity. These powers would not only include those focused on stomping out piracy, but also shutting down the whole internet if a 'cybersecurity emergency' were declared.

These reports come a day after an editorial by RIAA CEO Cary H. Sherman appeared in the New York Times. In the editorial, Sherman accuses websites like Google and Wikipedia of using 'dirty tricks' – spreading misinformation – to keep piracy alive. Exactly why Wikipedia wants to defend piracy isn't mentioned, but we're sure they have good reasons. Mr. Sherman said so.

Sherman also blamed the 'old media,' comprised of the collective (literal) press and TV networks of not doing enough to defend the legislation, mainly because they still feel the need to draw a line between 'news' and 'editorial.' Riiiiiight.

One paragraph of Sherman's editorial stands out from the rest, in which he essentially accuses most of the people who were opposed to SOPA and PIPA of, get this, being members of Annonymous.

No doubt, some genuinely wanted to protect Americans against theft but were sincerely concerned about how the language in the bill might be interpreted. But others may simply believe that online music, books and movies should be free. And how many of those e-mails were from the same people who attacked the Web sites of the Department of Justice, the Motion Picture Association of America, my organization and others as retribution for the seizure of Megaupload, an international digital piracy operation? Indeed, it’s hackers like the group Anonymous that engage in real censorship when they stifle the speech of those with whom they disagree.

In the end, Sherman says that the only possible solution is new legislation. According to him, OPEN, a less heavy handed alternative to SOPA, isn't nearly adequate enough to actually put a stop to piracy. Now it looks like that new legislation could be right around the corner, and it just might make SOPA look nice.

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Thats right, block the internet users both legit and non-legit from allowing the internet to grow and mroe connected, stopping communication, which in turn means stopping commerce, which means stopping money flow.

Yes controlling the "world" (you mean U.S ****TWITS) is the answer. It seemed religon tried to do this in Europe a few hundred years ago, oh and WOW look where we are now.

Gj Keep reincarnating this bill and Jesus would be jelly due to number of RESPAWNS. Now what else?

Why can't Mr Reed and others find something better to do with there time...... You think these guys would devote more time to fixing this country.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
-- U.S. President Abraham Lincoln,
Just sayin..

Cary H. Sherman seems to think he's god almighty. He can TELL government what to do.

Piracy will never stop, earlier case of piracy I can recall was Grade 12 kids copying DOS 5, from the school floppy disks, about 1994.

and lol, he thinks Annonymous was behind the anti SOPA/PIPA protests. Annonymous does NOT have millions of members. The protest was made up of ordinary people, enraged.

Cary Sherman is a dinosaur, and needs to be replaced by someone under the age of 25. MPAA, RIAA, Hollywood exec's all need to be replaced by someone under the age of 25.

And while its true that the internet had its origin in the military, it is grown to be free, free from any and all government. It must stay free from anyone who wants a kill switch. This cybersecurity emergency continent is purest smelliest BS

so why should the whitehouse be the ones in charge of what i look at onlin, im not an american and totaly glad not to be. "land of the free" huh?
fine you can cut off access to the internet for your country but just because there is a ""cybersecurity emergency"" in timbuktu that is not affecting the "great nation" why should the entire world suffer!

Man, these big boys in their little tower making rules about stuff that they have zero concept of, when will they learn?

Piracy will always exist, even if SOPA arrives, there will always be people who do not want to pay for anything and find a way to do just that.

What these guys really need to work on is how to REDUCE that number, by offering GLOBAL services that are affordable by normal people with normal jobs, a service where they can consume what they want for a monthly fee. Cut all the licencing bull crap from the studios, get rid of staggered release dates around the world.

After a movie is no longer showing at the cinema, it arrives on the service to watch as part of your monthly fee. Do that and the vast number of people who pirate just to see a show/movie that will not come to their country for years, (and even then they have to pay the provider to see it!) will stop, leaving only the hardcore who will always remain.

Absolutely agree with you. It's never going to stop, so it's a business model issue, and needs a business model solution.

bushbrother said,
Man, these big boys in their little tower making rules about stuff that they have zero concept of, when will they learn?

Piracy will always exist, even if SOPA arrives, there will always be people who do not want to pay for anything and find a way to do just that.

What these guys really need to work on is how to REDUCE that number, by offering GLOBAL services that are affordable by normal people with normal jobs, a service where they can consume what they want for a monthly fee. Cut all the licencing bull crap from the studios, get rid of staggered release dates around the world.

After a movie is no longer showing at the cinema, it arrives on the service to watch as part of your monthly fee. Do that and the vast number of people who pirate just to see a show/movie that will not come to their country for years, (and even then they have to pay the provider to see it!) will stop, leaving only the hardcore who will always remain.

I bet they have a massive list of sites they plan to pull the plug on once they get some kind of law out the gates.

I don't support MAFIAA but I don't think that he quote is competely wrong.

What he said was that some people are genuinely concerned about the wording of it.
There are some people who believe that all media should be free.
And some of the people who believe that all media should be free are also committing cyber attacks on behalf of Anonymous.

I don't see anything untrue about these statements.
It doesn't preclude people who believe that all media should be free but don't take action into their own hands to get it for free or to commit cyber attacks.

I personally don't think that all media should be free, but I do think that the MAFIAA need to be more innovative in their licensing models.

Not being "Free" doesn't have to mean that it has to cost money. You can pay in other ways: pay by being exposed to Advertising, pay by compromising your Privacy, etc. Same as how Radio/Facebook/Google work.

There can also pay with currency if you wish to, but there needs to be better payment and distribution models.

Wow, talk about god complex.

That guy just signed his death warrant with Anon, things about to kick off again!!

Neowin, if you were really against these bills you'd see sense and move out of Southfield in Michigan and jump ship to a different country with no kill switch!!!!!!

djdanster said,
Neowin, if you were really against these bills you'd see sense and move out of Southfield in Michigan and jump ship to a different country with no kill switch!!!!!!

For the record, there isn't a kill switch yet. And hopefully there never will be... but yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how this one plays out.

I'm just curious...cause I haven't seen any kind of terms as to what the "qualifications" would be for a complete shutdown of all internet providers...cause what I'm guessing is...you can't shut down the internet itself...but you send out an executive order to all internet providers saying...shut down now.

Sounds to me...they just want to put a law through to say...If we decide to shut down the internet...we can do it. And then give for a reason...."Well..we had reason to believe something was going to happen. But we don't have to tell you...cause it's classified."

That's the main reason why it's on the White House's decision to shut down the internet...cause the White House has executive priviledge. They don't need an act of Congress to enact the kill switch.

So...be on the ready...if the law passes...Obama can shut your provider off by just picking up the phone.

texasghost said,
I'm just curious...cause I haven't seen any kind of terms as to what the "qualifications" would be for a complete shutdown of all internet providers...cause what I'm guessing is...you can't shut down the internet itself...but you send out an executive order to all internet providers saying...shut down now.

Sounds to me...they just want to put a law through to say...If we decide to shut down the internet...we can do it. And then give for a reason...."Well..we had reason to believe something was going to happen. But we don't have to tell you...cause it's classified."

That's the main reason why it's on the White House's decision to shut down the internet...cause the White House has executive priviledge. They don't need an act of Congress to enact the kill switch.

So...be on the ready...if the law passes...Obama can shut your provider off by just picking up the phone.

No, not Mr. Obama or Mr. John Smith: The President of the US can do it.
No matter what is the party behind the elected one: Presidents will never, voluntarily at least, give back Executive Powers.

Buy a DVD... it gets scratched.... buy a new DVD of the same film.... lose it..... buy another copy of the same DVD..... Want to watch the DVD on your mobile device.... buy a digital copy..... mobile device breaks, get new mobile device.... buy another digital copy... want to copy the digital file to your other devices..... buy more digital copies....

How much of my money do I have to spend just to have the right to watch one movie any way I want to?

mr.miek said,
Buy a DVD... it gets scratched.... buy a new DVD of the same film.... lose it..... buy another copy of the same DVD..... Want to watch the DVD on your mobile device.... buy a digital copy..... mobile device breaks, get new mobile device.... buy another digital copy... want to copy the digital file to your other devices..... buy more digital copies....

How much of my money do I have to spend just to have the right to watch one movie any way I want to?

This...
Just dump DRM already, biggest fail in tech history...

If I really want to, I can copy that stuff.
If I really want to pirate it, nothing stops me.
DRM hasn't made an impact AT ALL.

... wait... it has. It's anti consumer.

Way to go!

GS:mac

mr.miek said,
Buy a DVD... it gets scratched.... buy a new DVD of the same film.... lose it..... buy another copy of the same DVD..... Want to watch the DVD on your mobile device.... buy a digital copy..... mobile device breaks, get new mobile device.... buy another digital copy... want to copy the digital file to your other devices..... buy more digital copies....

How much of my money do I have to spend just to have the right to watch one movie any way I want to?

Thats the thing. The media industry loves that they can charge you for the same content numerous times.

The Gunslinger said,

Thats the thing. The media industry loves that they can charge you for the same content numerous times.


Those free digital copies that are now included with many BluRays are no help either.
Not playable with anything but Windows...
Riiiight...

GS:ios

I seem to remember that Iran had / has a similar kill switch that they used during the election protest in Iran 2009-2010. No worries here though...

You guys will be fighting these laws until one of them passes. The media industry will keep buying politicians until they get their way, or until the political system gets fixed.

Good luck.

Majesticmerc said,
You guys will be fighting these laws until one of them passes. The media industry will keep buying politicians until they get their way, or until the political system gets fixed.

Good luck.


Shall they lose as much money as possible along the way and shall we never give up advocating the stopping of this nonsense.

GS:mac

This sucks, the industry needs to modernise. Give us unlimited music & movie streaming for £30/month (with one album & one film per month to keep included) for up to 5 devices in a household & there will be mass acceptance of this model.

I'd happily pay MS for this service via Zune for example (awesome service - poops all over iTunes et al). I listen to all my music via Zune & use Xbox Sky Service for films.

People producing this bill in the name of polemics are only looking out for themselves via pay offs etc.

Colin McGregor said,

why does the video say imagine a world? you know there are countries outside of the US right?

Imagine a WORLD.....

are you stupid or something?

Am i the only one that knew from the start as soon as those braindead moron anonymous kids started ddosing everything that it would get worse and worse???

Colin McGregor said,
Am i the only one that knew from the start as soon as those braindead moron anonymous kids started ddosing everything that it would get worse and worse???

No...but you are the only one who will roll over and play dead when told to.

Colin McGregor said,
Am i the only one that knew from the start as soon as those braindead moron anonymous kids started ddosing everything that it would get worse and worse???

You really believe that the overwhelming desire of the copyright industry to control content would just disappear if anonymous didn't exist?

Voice of Buddy Christ said,
Thank you, you dim-wits in Nevada. Why did you re-elect that loser Harry Reid?

Because he brings home the bacon.

Socialism at it's finest... They might as well burn the Constitution and Deceleration of Independence while they are at it... Amazing that people are actually going to vote these people back in to office. Oh well **** this **** and the people that support it.

NoLiMiT06 said,
Socialism at it's finest... They might as well burn the Constitution and Deceleration of Independence while they are at it... Amazing that people are actually going to vote these people back in to office. Oh well **** this **** and the people that support it.
What does that have to do with socialism?

NoLiMiT06 said,

Government wanting control over every single thing we use and do.

It is called tyranny.......and history shows that it every kind of government could degenerate in a such way.

but also shutting down the whole internet if a 'cybersecurity emergency' were declared.

The thing that sucks about this is the only reason to use such a kill switch would be in response to a populous uprising within the US. In other words, this is only useful against United States citizens.

Shadrack said,

The thing that sucks about this is the only reason to use such a kill switch would be in response to a populous uprising within the US. In other words, this is only useful against United States citizens.

And why not? They use the same thing in Iran and China. See the trend?

Shadrack said,

The thing that sucks about this is the only reason to use such a kill switch would be in response to a populous uprising within the US. In other words, this is only useful against United States citizens.

Corporate america is taking advantage of fear.

People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. - V for Vendetta

Politicians are afraid of the people and corporations are afraid they are missing out on billions of dollars.

The funny part of the whole thing is that SOPA wouldn't have stopped piracy either, just royally screwed over people who ARE NOT pirates.

Amarok said,
The funny part of the whole thing is that SOPA wouldn't have stopped piracy either, just royally screwed over people who ARE NOT pirates.

That seems to be the recurring theme with every anti-piracy measure. They crap on the people who pay them, then complain when people stop buying because they are tired of it. Apparently we are all supposed to be grateful and eager to hand over as much money as possible for the mere opportunity to be the RIAA's personal toilet.

I don't condone piracy but seriously people, we should now all stop buying music right now so that RIAA-like freaks will cease to exists without money.

Edited by SHADOW-XIII, Feb 8 2012, 11:29pm :

SHADOW-XIII said,
I don't condone piracy but seriously people, we should now all stop buying music right now so that RIAA-like freaks will cease to exists without money.

I condone the use of black outs

SHADOW-XIII said,
I don't condone piracy but seriously people, we should now all stop buying music right now so that RIAA-like freaks will cease to exists without money.

I think there's a boycott of pay-for media planned for March, because it is the end of the financial year.

The problem is all that does it make the RIAA say even more "well are numbers are going down so people must be pirating."

I didn't realize I was a member of anonymous, who knew?! The next thing you know anyone who disagrees with SOPA will be labeled a terrorist and jailed indefinitely without trial, you know, to keep us all "safe". The only people we need to be kept safe from is organized criminals like the RIAA and their cronies who's trying to reach their tentacles into every aspect of our lives. trying to control what we watch, read and hear and make us pay for every second of it until they bleed our wallets dry.

Arexx said,
I didn't realize I was a member of anonymous, who knew?! The next thing you know anyone who disagrees with SOPA will be labeled a terrorist and jailed indefinitely without trial, you know, to keep us all "safe". The only people we need to be kept safe from is organized criminals like the RIAA and their cronies who's trying to reach their tentacles into every aspect of our lives. trying to control what we watch, read and hear and make us pay for every second of it until they bleed our wallets dry.

The day that happens, I will be using my guns to shoot at things other than paper targets. Just let the government try.

insanelyapple said,

Well, how about ICANN?


Icann operate the name servers, not the internet itself. Granted though that the internet would be much harder to navigate by IP addresses alone

Foub said,
No one owns the Internet..........

It's not about who own's the internet - it's about who has the power to shut the infrastructure down.

Foub said,
No one owns the Internet..........

actually, it was developed by the military.. my guess is that they allowed the mass to use it is to gather information about people's way of using it and services like facebook, google, software providers like microsoft, apple, linux and hardware providers like amd and intel are just some sidekicks that help fasten the process

and im dead serious about the above, no sarcasms or anything

and those SOPA/PIPA/ACTA are just what was about to happen, no matter how people will protest, the internet will be heavily censured in the following years


people are deliberately uploading their information on the internet.. even comments and forum posts are information we are giving away


so laugh at this, mock it, i dont care if you believe it or not, this is what i believe the internet is and its purpose - a tool to massively control the people, just like religion

watch this>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBVkiQYNTr4

Saex_Conroy said,

actually, it was developed by the military.. my guess is that they allowed the mass to use it is to gather information about people's way of using it and services like facebook, google, software providers like microsoft, apple, linux and hardware providers like amd and intel are just some sidekicks that help fasten the process

and im dead serious about the above, no sarcasms or anything

and those SOPA/PIPA/ACTA are just what was about to happen, no matter how people will protest, the internet will be heavily censured in the following years


people are deliberately uploading their information on the internet.. even comments and forum posts are information we are giving away


so laugh at this, mock it, i dont care if you believe it or not, this is what i believe the internet is and its purpose - a tool to massively control the people, just like religion

watch this>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBVkiQYNTr4

There were parts i had to slow it to half speed to make sure what he was saying a couple times but i rather enjoyed this. Thanks!

3dfxman said,

There were parts i had to slow it to half speed to make sure what he was saying a couple times but i rather enjoyed this. Thanks!

the original audio is in russian and it sounds better, but it took me a couple of times to watch it to understand just a little out of it.. too much slang words i dont know (the russian one)