Tech Star Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Four years ago AMD did the unthinkable: it announced the 5.4 billion dollar acquisition of ATI in a combination of cash and stock. What followed was a handful of very difficult years for AMD, an upward swing for ATI and the eventual spinoff of AMD’s manufacturing facilities to GlobalFoundries in order to remain profitable and competitive.In the years post acquisition, many criticized AMD for blowing a lot of money on ATI and having little to show for it. Even I felt that for $5.4 billion AMD could’ve put together its own competent graphics and chipset teams. Despite the protest and sideline evaluations, good has come from the acquisition. The most noticeable is the fact that AMD’s chipset business is the strongest it has ever been. AMD branded chipsets and integrated graphics are actually very good. And later this year, AMD will ship its first Fusion APUs (single die CPU/GPU): Ontario using Bobcat cores and an AMD GPU. Ontario will be the first tangible example of direct AMD/ATI collaboration since the acquisition. Just as we’re about to see results from the acquisition AMD is announcing that it will retire the ATI brand later this year. Save those boxes guys, soon you won’t see an ATI logo on any product sold in the market. The motivation behind the decision to retire the ATI brand comes from AMD’s own internal research. Unfortunately AMD isn’t sharing the details of this research, just the three major findings from it: 1) AMD brand preference triples when the person surveyed is aware of the ATI-AMD merger. 2) The AMD brand is viewed as stronger than ATI when compared to graphics competitors (presumably NVIDIA). 3) The Radeon and Fire Pro brands themselves (without ATI being attached to them) are very high as is. The second point is really the justification for all of this. If AMD’s internal research is to be believed, AMD vs. NVIDIA is better from a marketing standpoint than ATI vs. NVIDIA. Honestly, AMD’s research seems believable. AMD has always seemed like a stronger brand to me than ATI. There’s little room for ego in business (despite it being flexed all too often) and I don’t believe AMD would hurt its marketing simply to satisfy any AMD executives - the research makes sense. Meanwhile the third point is the realization that there are very few product lines with the ATI brand left. ATI's chipset operations were quickly absorbed in to AMD and given appropriate naming, while ATI's consumer electronics products such as their Digital TV division have been sold to other companies. Radeon and FirePro are the only two ATI product lines left, and both are strong brands on their own. Read the full article at Anandtech.com Sad to see the brand ATi go. :/ My first cards were ATi's (9800 All-in-Wonder) before I switched to nVidia. :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeston Veteran Posted August 30, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 30, 2010 Meh, I probably wouldn't have even noticed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffydemon Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 it cant be true :no: :( my First graphic card is ATi 4890 :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted August 30, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 30, 2010 Ah well, I'll always refer to AMD's Canadian offices as "ATI." Still sad though :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Makes sense....I was expecting them to do it sooner Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I'm surprised it took them this long, but it's a shame to see it go. I've had more ATI cards than any other. ATI Rage Pro NVIDIA Riva TNT2 3DFX Voodoo Banshee ATI Rage 128 ATI Radeon ATI Radeon 8500 ATI Radeon 9800 ATI Radeon X1600 Geforce 6800 Ultra Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted August 30, 2010 MVC Share Posted August 30, 2010 Shows how observant I am, I thought (and have been calling) their graphic cards AMD <whatever model> since the acquisition. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted August 30, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted August 30, 2010 I've noticed the ATI branding disappearing from newer systems. I'm pretty sure AMD's main focus is to have a 'solution' (unlike Intel) so they might as well just have it all under a single banner. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Farewell, fair ATI. It won't make it any better for you though!! :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Didn't used AMD when talking about/buying their GPUs after the purchase of ATI, and I don't see myself starting after they'll try to get rid of the name completely. I just associate AMD to crappy CPUs, more than to good GPUs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneyardBrew Member Posted August 30, 2010 Member Share Posted August 30, 2010 This doesn't bother me at all. I was also expecting it to happen sooner, honestly. My first ATI card was an HD 5850 that I bought a few months ago, so it won't be too hard to transition to calling it an AMD HD 5850 (alright, I admit that does look a little strange :laugh:). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacon Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 It makes sense. "ATi" still has a bad reputation by people who haven't looked at an ATi card twice since they had a small driver problem 3-6 years ago. And if you think I'm kidding, about half of the stubborn buyers I try to inform still think ATi is utter **** in its driver support and power, and that Nvidia isn't getting a run for its money at all. The way a consumer thinks is that if the name changes, apparently it is much better (or at least a change from the past). People will take a second look at ATi cards because they are not, well... ATi. But farewell indeed, old pal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjoswald Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Adios, ATi! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DKAngel Subscriber² Posted August 30, 2010 Subscriber² Share Posted August 30, 2010 sad, i much hate my nvidia products and wish i never switched to them actually didnt have a choice. ive had a few ati cards 7200 8500 9700pro 1600pro Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micro Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Ahh the good old days of ati.. I remember going from my ti 4600 to a 9800 pro, was some 40% faster, it was amazing. Fast forward to today. New graphics card comes out and you get 10 fps better.. In fact, I havent even changed my graphics card in two years and i'm still playin games in 1080p on high with decent fps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Farewell, fair ATI. It won't make it any better for you though!! :p Considering they've been giving Nvidia a kicking for the last couple of years, I don't think they need to worry too much about that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 It's just a name. As-long as the products stay competitive that is all I care about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCordRm Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Ah well... I've always been happier with Nvidia card anyhow. <snicker> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Good luck to them - I'll always call them ATI and colour them red. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 It makes sense. "ATi" still has a bad reputation by people who haven't looked at an ATi card twice since they had a small driver problem 3-6 years ago. And if you think I'm kidding, about half of the stubborn buyers I try to inform still think ATi is utter **** in its driver support and power, and that Nvidia isn't getting a run for its money at all. The way a consumer thinks is that if the name changes, apparently it is much better (or at least a change from the past). People will take a second look at ATi cards because they are not, well... ATi. But farewell indeed, old pal. ATi drivers are still ****. and they do weird stupid stuff in them I'm not sure I'll ever buy an ATi card again just based on their retarded default uderscan/overscan setting, which to top it off is hidden in an almost impossible to find place in the driver CP. and even when you find it, when you launch a game at a different res or refresh, then it's back to the stupid underscan again... which is even more difficult to adjust since as soon as you jump out to the driver, it's back to windows settings. so you need to know exactly what the game runs on then, adjust windows to that THEN adjust it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted August 30, 2010 Veteran Share Posted August 30, 2010 It's a logical thing to do, but it's still sad to see the ATI brand go. Farewell ATI. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3ntury Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I didn't see this coming :o Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfrog Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAKside Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Ah, it's only a rebranding, and ATI will live on under the AMD name. With just two major GPU manufacturers, I was a bit worried by the headline. Long live NVIDIA vs ... AMD?! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmehdi Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I prefered the ATI brand ... I've never bought any AMD cpu. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/933796-farewell-to-ati-amd-to-retire-the-ati-brand-later-this-year/#findComment-593089640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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