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#1 lalalawawawa

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:31

To get on the point immediately, what's up with you guys lately deleting comments that suggest a news post / article is wrong / crap? We can't give feedback anymore?

EDIT: Also, why not add a dislike button too?


#2 Paul Ferson

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:34

When I've published articles in the past, I have not deleted comments, even if they are negative. To me they make a good way of learning and spotting mistakes so I can (hopefully) avoid issues in the future. I'm curious though as to who is actually deleting comments, as the comments are what makes the article writing worthwhile, IMO.

#3 OP lalalawawawa

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:35

^ No idea who deletes the comments. But if one isn't prepared for both positive / negative feedback, one should not write at all. :)

#4 ahhell

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:36

To get on the point immediately, what's up with you guys lately deleting comments that suggest a news post / article is wrong / crap? We can't give feedback anymore?

EDIT: Also, why not add a dislike button too?


I totally agree. Stuff seems to get deleted without notice.

If you guys are going to "censor" threads, at least be consistent about it.

#5 shakey

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:37

I haven't seen it happen, except yesterday, but mine wasn't a negative one. Was just me asking what "audio audio" was because of a typo in the article. So easy to see why they removed it :p

#6 neufuse

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:37

there is a button to report problems you might have with articles, comments isn't the place for them... that has been general knowledge for a long while now.... report it like it should be, if its a comment that should of been an issue report, it will get deleted by a mod

#7 farmeunit

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:40

there is a button to report problems you might have with articles, comments isn't the place for them... that has been general knowledge for a long while now.... report it like it should be, if its a comment that should of been an issue report, it will get deleted by a mod


What he said. People should use common sense a little more.

#8 bdsams

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:42

I typically do not remove comments, but pointless banter (FIRST!!), intentional troll/flame, and if someone points out a spelling mistake (and doesn't use the report an issue) I will sometimes delete them after the adjustment has been made. Plenty of negative comments are left untouched, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

There is a big difference too between genuine feedback and "this is crap" or "zomg nawt news". It's easy to troll, it's difficult to be productive.

Ninja Edit:

Also the comment to view ratio is very low (typical across many sites) so one negative comment is not representative of the majority. If we bork up, and I have in the past, it is known and we get slammed from all sides. One simple comment that is derogatory doesn't mean all agree with you.

#9 Cheatyface

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:46

I don't care if my comments about errors get deleted when they are, but if I see a glaring grammar/spelling/other error that could have been caught with simple proofreading, I'm going to point it out in the comments and get a laugh at the author's expense. *shrug* I'll let others play copy editor, life's too short for unpaid work.

#10 Neobond

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:46

The only comments that get deleted are the obvious troll ones, people who comment in Apple articles and clearly dislike the company should imo be banned for it outright, because it serves no purpose and usually makes the person look stupid.

Oh and most of the time those comments are (quite correctly) reported by other readers too.

If theres a problem with an article, you can use the report link.

As I see no actual examples here, I'll leave it at that! :)

#11 OP lalalawawawa

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:48

there is a button to report problems you might have with articles, comments isn't the place for them... that has been general knowledge for a long while now.... report it like it should be, if its a comment that should of been an issue report, it will get deleted by a mod


Lets say an article contains a picture that says something. But it is either incomplete or misinterprets the facts, just because the creator of that picture is either biased towards one thing and wants to make that thing look better, or simply doesn't care to check the correctness of what he did.

Where am I supposed to write a feedback for this? Why add the comments part in the first place, if the author can't accept negative comments?

If an article is crap, it is crap. It is not "not good enough". It is crap. ;)

(really don't give a **** about mine and others' comments being deleted, but seriously, the site right now is light years away from what it was in the past, and a lot of that has to do with the kind of articles that are being posted)

#12 Neobond

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:49

I don't care if my comments about errors get deleted when they are, but if I see a glaring grammar/spelling/other error that could have been caught with simple proofreading, I'm going to point it out in the comments and get a laugh at the author's expense. *shrug* I'll let others play copy editor, life's too short for unpaid work.

We have one full-time reporter, the rest do it for your and others benefits.

I'm glad you didn't read Neowin between 2000-2006 because you would have had a problem with every article :p That's how "unprofessional" we are.

#13 Cheatyface

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:54

We have one full-time reporter, the rest do it for your and others benefits.

I'm glad you didn't read Neowin between 2000-2006 because you would have had a problem with every article :p That's how "unprofessional" we are.

Like I said I don't mind being deleted for it, and I don't do it all the time, but sometimes it's too easy and I just have too. As far as I can recall, the times I have done it weren't malicious trolling, at least I hope they weren't taken that way. I've been reading neowin since '02, at least, and yeah it's gotten waaaaaaaaaay better over the years as far as the quality goes, still some facepalm moments but I try to keep those to myself >.>;

#14 Tzvi Friedman

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:56

Just so everyone is aware, a reported issue is treated much more seriously than a commenter making a correction in a comment. The writer (and editors) also gets notified in a few different ways so that we're sure the problem will be addressed and fixed if need be. If your goal to is to get someone to fix the issue, you should be using the issue report button. If you feel the need to point these out in the comments, you don't really have the site's interests in mind, do you?

#15 FMH

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Posted 23 June 2011 - 20:59

You are so so right.
I posted this article a few days earlier on Neowin.net and the page about an error.
THEY DELETED IT!!! :angry: :angry:

This is search done in Bing. The first link is my article. IT DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE. http://www.bing.com/...owin news error


I corrected them that that MS-Skype deal has not been cleared by FTC yet, and they deleted the link. It was mistake on behalf of AP.
I don't know how much longer before they delete this post too. :angry:

And you are right, I have some people reply to my comments in news section. But I can neither find their replies or my post. It has happened at least 3 times in recent memory. And I'm not a troll.