+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted July 20, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted July 20, 2011 Xcode 4.1 now free, available for your Lion development pleasure For all of the developers who were wondering where Xcode 4.1 was this morning, it was just taking a short time out. It's now available for download in both the Mac App Store and through the regular developer channels. Xcode formerly had a $4.99 price tag for non-developers; it's now available as a free download. Get to work writing those Lion apps, folks! Source: TUAW Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun N. Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Interesting Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594174824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I like the style of installer they used for it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594174826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Why Apple suddenly started asking money for this thing in the first place is still beyond me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594174830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BletchleyPark Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Free, then 4.99 then free again... make up your mind Apple!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594174864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Wow... I just saved 5 bucks for waiting. Weird. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594174892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadEndAccount Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Why Apple suddenly started asking money for this thing in the first place is still beyond me. Accounting? testing the waters whether people are prepared to pay? personally they should give it away for free but charge for a premium support. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594174918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKenndac Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Personally they should give it away for free but charge for a premium support. They do. If you're a paid Mac (or iOS) developer, you get a number of support incidents each year. Otherwise, no support. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594174940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadEndAccount Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 They do. If you're a paid Mac (or iOS) developer, you get a number of support incidents each year. Otherwise, no support. Sorry I meant in terms of "I've found a bug, please fix it" and Apple has a dedicated engineer to actually fix the bug in the operating system. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594174944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Sorry I meant in terms of "I've found a bug, please fix it" and Apple has a dedicated engineer to actually fix the bug in the operating system. http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594174966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Accounting? testing the waters whether people are prepared to pay? personally they should give it away for free but charge for a premium support. Yeah, see I stopped believing the whole accounting thing when Apple first said the same thing about major iOS updates for the iPod touch, but then suddenly started giving those away for free as well... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Yeah, see I stopped believing the whole accounting thing when Apple first said the same thing about major iOS updates for the iPod touch, but then suddenly started giving those away for free as well... That is because the rules relating to that changed between when that first iPod touch update was released and when the later ones were released. Still doesn't explain the situation with Xcode though. This article explains it pretty well: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/09/accounting-rules-change-could-end-ipod-touch-update-fee.ars Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Still doesn't explain the situation with Xcode though. Exactly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Xcode has always been free with OSX, what they don't include is a free upgrade to the NEXT major version (Snow Leopard came with 3.x so 4.x cost money for SL, Lion came with 4.1 so 5.x will cost money for Lion) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Xcode has always been free with OSX, what they don't include is a free upgrade to the NEXT major version (Snow Leopard came with 3.x so 4.x cost money for SL, Lion came with 4.1 so 5.x will cost money for Lion) Actually, up until recently, you could always download the latest version of Xcode from Apple's developer site for free, even if you were only registered for a free developer account. Oh, and Happy Birthday!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Actually, up until recently, you could always download the latest version of Xcode from Apple's developer site for free, even if you were only registered for a free developer account. Oh, and Happy Birthday!! Yes and no, Tiger could only run Xcode 2.x and Leopard could only run 3.x. Snow Leopard is the first version of OSX that can run more than one major version of Xcode Oh and thanks :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I'm using the 4.2 DP builds. Is there anything major lacking in 4.1? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Yes and no, Tiger could only run Xcode 2.x and Leopard could only run 3.x. Snow Leopard is the first version of OSX that can run more than one major version of Xcode Oh and thanks :) Yeah, but you could still always get it for free, no matter what version of OS X you were running. Hell, you could even get it if you didn't have OS X at all, you just had no way of using it! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Yeah, but you could still always get it for free, no matter what version of OS X you were running. Hell, you could even get it if you didn't have OS X at all, you just had no way of using it! Just the same as 4.1 is available for free for anyone running Lion It just makes no sense to let someone download it (and waste bandwidth) if he's not going to be able to run it anyway Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Just the same as 4.1 is available for free for anyone running Lion It just makes no sense to let someone download it (and waste bandwidth) if he's not going to be able to run it anyway The entire point of the discussion though is the fact that other than the last few months when Apple has been charging $5, it has always been free to download, just by signing up for a free developer account. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 The entire point of the discussion though is the fact that other than the last few months when Apple has been charging $5, it has always been free to download, just by signing up for a free developer account. They're charging for a Snow Leopard version (and they still are as far as I know), as I said before they've never had an OSX release have more than one major Xcode release before so charging $5 is like an upgrade fee (Xcode 3.2 was still free) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 They're charging for a Snow Leopard version (and they still are as far as I know), as I said before they've never had an OSX release have more than one major Xcode release before so charging $5 is like an upgrade fee (Xcode 3.2 was still free) I get your point, but then again I don't get Apple's point. Asking those ?4 is just silly. Period. Just like asking those ?0,80 for FaceTime is retarded. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594175892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I get your point, but then again I don't get Apple's point. Asking those ?4 is just silly. Period. Just like asking those ?0,80 for FaceTime is retarded. I agree 110% Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594176218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenth Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Yes and no, Tiger could only run Xcode 2.x and Leopard could only run 3.x. Snow Leopard is the first version of OSX that can run more than one major version of Xcode Oh and thanks :) Note that Xcode 2.5 could be used on Tiger and Leopard, as well as side by side with 3.0. http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2007/Oct/msg00560.html (I could not find a better source, but there's many reports of it). Could not find versions earlier than Xcode 3.2 on ADC. I'm glad I downloaded the final versions of Xcode for Panther, Tiger, Leopard a few weeks ago . :o Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594176264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKenndac Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Note that Xcode 2.5 could be used on Tiger and Leopard, as well as side by side with 3.0. Xcode 2.5? Psh, whippersnappers. I'm still using Project Builder 1.1 on Mac OS X 10.1! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1013526-xcode-41-now-free-available-for-your-lion-development-pleasure/#findComment-594177118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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