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But having the start menu means that you have all of your programs and settings in one place like on Windows 7 and Windows XP. Classic Shell only got updated yesterday and the updated version now supports Windows 7 CP and adds the start orb. And out of all the start menu programs,Classic Shell is the one I like best. As the start menus are identical to the real Windows XP and Classic start menu. Andrea Borman.

And Metro.

Yes that's right. The Metro theme is still, there because you cannot disable it on Windows 8 CP. So even though you are not dealing with it so much because you have got Classic Shell or Start menu 7 or another program installed. That gives you the Windows 7 or Windows XP start menu,the Metro theme is still there.

And you have in fact got two start menus,the Windows 7 start menu and the Metro start menu. And you can still use the Metro start menu as well as the Windows XP or Windows 7 start menu,if you want to.

It's strange is it not that a week ago I thought that I might not be able to use the new Windows 8. But after installed it and tried it for a second time,I found out I could use it. I think the Windows 7 start menus I installed helped me. And out of all the start menu programs Classic Shell is the best one as it has a lot of features,and looks like the original Windows XP start menu. But you have also got the option to have the Windows 7,Windows Vista start menu as well as the Classic and Windows XP start menu in classic Shell. I am glad they updated it to work in Windows 8 CP.

Also I have installed more of my Windows XP programs in Windows 8 CP. Windows XP paint and Wordpad works in Windows 8 CP. And I use it alongside the Windows 8 paint and notepad. Also I got Windows Mail from Windows Vista working again in Windows 8 CP. After I copied the dill file from Windows 7 and Aim Messenger now works in Windows 8 CP. So I am running Windows 8 CP the way I want it just like on Windows 7 and Windows XP. Andrea Borman.

Yes that's right. The Metro theme is still, there because you cannot disable it on Windows 8 CP. So even though you are not dealing with it so much because you have got Classic Shell or Start menu 7 or another program installed. That gives you the Windows 7 or Windows XP start menu,the Metro theme is still there.

And you have in fact got two start menus,the Windows 7 start menu and the Metro start menu. And you can still use the Metro start menu as well as the Windows XP or Windows 7 start menu,if you want to.

It's strange is it not that a week ago I thought that I might not be able to use the new Windows 8. But after installed it and tried it for a second time,I found out I could use it. I think the Windows 7 start menus I installed helped me. And out of all the start menu programs Classic Shell is the best one as it has a lot of features,and looks like the original Windows XP start menu. But you have also got the option to have the Windows 7,Windows Vista start menu as well as the Classic and Windows XP start menu in classic Shell. I am glad they updated it to work in Windows 8 CP.

Also I have installed more of my Windows XP programs in Windows 8 CP. Windows XP paint and Wordpad works in Windows 8 CP. And I use it alongside the Windows 8 paint and notepad. Also I got Windows Mail from Windows Vista working again in Windows 8 CP. After I copied the dill file from Windows 7 and Aim Messenger now works in Windows 8 CP. So I am running Windows 8 CP the way I want it just like on Windows 7 and Windows XP. Andrea Borman.

You completely didn't get my point at all did you. It just flew by kilometers above your head, didn't it.

You completely didn't get my point at all did you. It just flew by kilometers above your head, didn't it.

Well most of the Windows XP and Vista software works on Windows 8 just like it does on windows 7. And I have just installed the Windows XP Sound recorder on Windows 8. Which I already have on Windows 7 and it runs alongside the Windows 8 Sound Recorder just like it does on Windows 7. You just transfer the files from your Windows XP computer using team Viewer onto Windows 8 and it works.

Windows 8 is like Windows 7 apart from the Metro theme. But as if you install the start menu programs,that give you the Windows XP and Windows 7 start menu. You don't deal with it quite so much.

So even if they do release the final version of Windows 8, that will go out on sale to the public with only the Metro theme. As you can install one of the start menu programs to bring back both the Windows 7 start menu and start orb. Most people will find it easy to adjust to Windows 8. It certainly helped me and has now made me fell quite at home on Windows 8. So much so that I am now going to install it on a new Windows 7 netbook that I got as a present from a friend.

And I will also install Classic Shell and all of the Windows XP and Windows Vista software I use on Windows 7 of course. Andrea Borman.

I just purchased a Samsung Series 7 Slate and first thing I did was update the BIOS, scrub the hard drive and install Windows 8 Developer Preview.

So far I am loving the experience. I have not really ran into any major issues but I have noticed a bug every now and again (not a big deal).

Just wondering who uses Windows 8 as their primary OS and what you find to be the best features and most-hated features?

Also, what issues/bugs have you found?

I'll never use Windows 8 as my primary OS since I use a Mac. I have it installed in a virtual machine and I'm glad I'll never actually have to use it since I hate the Metro interface. It's the ugliest UI I've ever seen. I'll get rid of Windows 8 as soon as I need the disk space back. The lack of a start button is a non-issue for a Mac user. The Metro interface should have been placed out of the way like the Launch Pad in OSX or at least been something you could turn off if you don't want to use it. Hopefully once released someone will figure out a way to disable Metro so that just the desktop will show up. MS demonstrated that it has no intention of listening to its customers since despite all the calls for putting back the Start Button, they steadfastly refused. So anyone who comments on Apple being stubborn, well, MS is just as bad. As for bugs..to me the whole OS is a bug. :). WIndows 7 is definitely preferable and I foresee very few people who will want to 'upgrade'. MS made a BIG mistake with Windows 8 and will probably lose millions on it. Windows 7 will be like XP in being the dominant version for years to come.

MS demonstrated that it has no intention of listening to its customers since despite all the calls for putting back the Start Button, they steadfastly refused. So anyone who comments on Apple being stubborn, well, MS is just as bad. As for bugs..to me the whole OS is a bug.

Dude, the Start Button is still freakin there! Heck there's two of them on the desktop! How many more buttons do people need?

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Still don't get it do you.

What? You mean that I should try to get used to the Metro theme and learn how to use the Metro start menu? Is that what you mean? Yes I should. As it is, and will be part of the Windows 8 operating system. The same way that the Aero theme is part of Windows Vista and 7. So I should turn off my Windows XP start menu from time to time. To learn how to manage and get used to the Metro start menu. But of course you have the option to use both the Metro and classic Windows 7 start menu. If you install software like Start Menu 7 or Classic Shell.

Of course you don't get the Classic Windows 2000 start menu in Windows 7 either. As it is not included in windows 7 like it was in Windows Vista and windows XP. But you can get it back if you install third party software.Which a lot of people do. Just like you can get back both the start orb and Windows 7 start menu on Windows 8.

Metro is not a Theme andrea why dont you get that

Well if the Metro theme is not a theme what is it then? Andrea Borman.

Well if the Metro theme is not a theme what is it then? Andrea Borman.

A theme is how something looks (aka the skin)

A user interface (UI) is the shell, where things are placed, how they work, exet.

the "Metro Start Screen" is a UI.

you make yourself sound like a huge idiot when you keep calling it the metro theme, because that is not what it is

how about you go actually educate yourself on proper computer terms and such

Soft7 is a theme, it changes the way the shell looks

Dude, the Start Button is still freakin there! Heck there's two of them on the desktop! How many more buttons do people need?

As I said in my post, I don't personally care about the presence or absence of a start button. It was just to illustrate my point about Microsoft being just as stubborn as Apple.

The topic title is "Who uses Windows 8 as primary OS?"

I use Windows 8 CP 64-bit on my 27" iMac i7 (with SSD-disk and 2Tb Harddisk) (2011 model) and my MacBook Pro Core 2 Duo (2007 model) using Boot Camp and OS X Mountain Lion Developement Preview.

No problems at all :-)

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so, no response from Andrea yet, :p

Not everyone has to use the correct tech terminology. Theme or UI what gives you the right to mock this user & refer to as an IDIOT? This forum is to help users & discuss topic appropriate issues, not bagger, name call, bully others with your superior intellect. I think you & Hawkman could use some time off of the forums. You stopped helping and started pushing your opinions and beliefs at the expense of others.

And Metro.

Metro is not comparable to the XP start menu nor is it even close to the Windows 7 start menu. The whole point of the users topic was to share the software "classic start menu" that they discovered. What was the problem with that? Stop argueing with members and picking fights. I do not like your attitude towards others. Go beat your wife.

I know a friend who did an upgrade install from 7 to the Customer Preview, he's a gamer and has no problems except for nVidia drivers.

I personally wouldn't want to run the CP as my main OS, so I'm waiting until release.

I know a friend who did an upgrade install from 7 to the Customer Preview, he's a gamer and has no problems except for nVidia drivers.

I've had no issues with nVidia drivers, even using unofficial drivers (those designed for Win7).

I've gone back to Win7 now and will probably stick with it until the Release Preview is available, as I had compatibility issues with a few games (Crysis 2 and LA Noire). Still, I very much liked Win8 and will definitely be upgrading to it on release.

I've had no issues with nVidia drivers, even using unofficial drivers (those designed for Win7).

I've gone back to Win7 now and will probably stick with it until the Release Preview is available, as I had compatibility issues with a few games (Crysis 2 and LA Noire). Still, I very much liked Win8 and will definitely be upgrading to it on release.

I did NOT have a compatibility issue with Crysis 2 (or any other game I had installed in Windows 7) - in fact, I haven't had a compatibility issue with ANY game I've installed in the Consumer Preview. (None - and that includes the Diablo III beta, Blacklight: Retribution, and several other betas - both closed and open.) What was the problem with Crysis 2? (If related to PunkBuster - which Crysis 2 requires - then download the latest update for PunkBuster, or - if you also have Blacklight: Retribution installed - which also requires Punkbuster - update to the latest client for the game.)

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