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[.Neo]

Shadrack, on 16 February 2012 - 15:52, said:

I think Apple shouldn't do this to developers, but it isn't just them, Microsoft does the same thing.

Using your logic Apple should have never added Dashboard, FaceTime, Dictionary, DVD Player, Font Book, iCal, iTunes, Mail, Preview, Photo Booth, Safari, Stickies, TextEdit, Time Machine and iCloud to the OS. All of those had existing third-party solutions before they were introduced.

PyX, on 16 February 2012 - 15:57, said:

- The app in fullscreen doesn’t take all the width of the screen, and you cannot adjust it like Safari. It reminds me of FaceTime, which had this awkward user interface.
- FaceTime remains installed. Messages should have it integrated completely.

FaceTime and Messages are separate apps on the desktop as well, so I guess that's why. Why would you want this app to take the entire width of the screen?

[PyX]

.Neo, on 16 February 2012 - 16:05, said:

FaceTime and Messages are separate apps on the desktop as well, so I guess that's why.

You mean on iOS. Yeah, I get what you mean. but since I can video-chat in Messages and video-chat in FaceTime… I don’t know. Having a unified app would really make it better.

.Neo, on 16 February 2012 - 16:05, said:

Why would you want this app to take the entire width of the screen?

I will go for a rhetorical question : why would I not ? I have paid for a 27-inch screen because I want apps to be big like that. Apps like these that won’t scale up to full-screen completely are only a few. It could have my list of friends to fill the blank linen space for example, instead of appearing as a popup menu.

[.Neo]

PyX, on 16 February 2012 - 16:09, said:

You mean on iOS. Yeah, I get what you mean. but since I can video-chat in Messages and video-chat in FaceTime… I don’t know. Having a unified app would really make it better.

Yeah on iOS, sorry. I think it wouldn't. From the old iChat perspective yes it would be better. But IM is basically dying out. From a unified working with iOS it really isn't. My main problem with these services is that every company is reinventing the wheel on their own.

PyX, on 16 February 2012 - 16:09, said:

I will go for a rhetorical question : why would I not ? I have paid for a 27-inch screen because I want apps to be big like that. Apps like these that won’t scale up to full-screen completely are only a few. It could have my list of friends to fill the blank linen space for example, instead of appearing as a popup menu.

That would just add a third row. It wouldn't fill up the space offered by an 27-inch iMac either.

[Shadrack]

PyX, on 16 February 2012 - 15:57, said:

There’s a LOT of annoyances in Messages, but it’s a step forward.

- It doesn’t link my iMessage account to the one on my cellphone. For a moment, I was thinking "if both are related to iCloud, they can be synchronized", but it’s not what’s happening there. My cellphone is linked to my phone number and Messages is linked to my iCloud. So I will appear like a new user to everyone if I use Message.

I'm not sure I exactly follow what your problem is so forgive me if my solution is not what you were looking for.

I think your problem is that your phone is sending your phone number as your "Caller ID" when sending an iMessage and your Mac can't receive and send messages from your phone number (I wish it could). On your iPhone, goto Settings->Messages->Receive At->Caller ID and select your email address. That way when you send an iMessage to someone they will receive it from your email address and when they reply they will be replying to your email address (iCloud ID or whatever). This will keep the messages in-sync between your iPhone and your Mac (and ipad/ipod...).

.Neo, on 16 February 2012 - 16:05, said:

Using your logic Apple should have never added Dashboard, FaceTime, Dictionary, DVD Player, Font Book, iCal, iTunes, Mail, Preview, Photo Booth, Safari, Stickies, TextEdit, Time Machine and iCloud to the OS. All of those had existing third-party solutions before they were introduced.

Logic had nothing to do with my post, it was purely an emotional response as a fellow developer.

[Alladaskill17]

Probably will have to downgrade my (future) Ivy Bridge'd MBP to 10.6.8, unless there is a way to completely turn off all of these 10.7+ additions (and it seems to be getting worse as they release later versions)

[hotosega]

No more reason to use growl

[.Neo]

Alladaskill17, on 16 February 2012 - 16:28, said:

Probably will have to downgrade my (future) Ivy Bridge'd MBP to 10.6.8, unless there is a way to completely turn off all of these 10.7+ additions (and it seems to be getting worse as they release later versions)

Guess you won't be buying a new Mac then because there's no way in hell you'll be able to run OS X Snow Leopard on it. Beyond Mission Control you can pretty much revert everything back to pre-OS X Lion to begin with.

Shadrack, on 16 February 2012 - 16:23, said:

Logic had nothing to do with my post, it was purely an emotional response as a fellow developer.

I'm glad you're saying that yourself.

[tiagosilva29]

Apple: "All plugins suck" -> "Get QuickTime to watch Mountain Lion video".

[Shadrack]

.Neo, on 16 February 2012 - 16:32, said:

I'm glad you're saying that yourself.

Truth of the matter is, if you have a good idea for improving an OS and provide a solution you would do yourself a big favor by patenting the crap out of that idea.

[.Neo]

Shadrack, on 16 February 2012 - 16:38, said:

Truth of the matter is, if you have a good idea for improving an OS and provide a solution you would do yourself a big favor by patenting the crap out of that idea.

Truth of the matter is, Growl didn't invent notifications. Not even the way of delivering them. So there's nothing to patent really.

Apple did buy unique ideas in the past. Remember Cover Flow?

[Shadrack]

.Neo, on 16 February 2012 - 16:42, said:

Truth of the matter is, Growl didn't invent notifications. Not even the way of delivering them. So there's nothing to patent really.

Apple did buy unique ideas in the past. Remember Cover Flow?

Well, Growl was the first notification client that I had ever come across that provided a unified approach to notifications that other developers could tap into via an API. Not sure if that existed before Growl. It might of. You seem hell bent on arguing with people so I'll humor you.

[+Elliott]

Notification Center is killer! I can't wait until third party apps adopt it.

Also, finally, an OmniBar in Safari 5.2.

[+Mephistopheles]

In case anybody wants the new default wallpaper from 10.8: http://www.cultofmac...wallpaper-here/

[PyX]

Shadrack, on 16 February 2012 - 16:23, said:

I think your problem is that your phone is sending your phone number as your "Caller ID" when sending an iMessage and your Mac can't receive and send messages from your phone number (I wish it could). On your iPhone, goto Settings->Messages->Receive At->Caller ID and select your email address. That way when you send an iMessage to someone they will receive it from your email address and when they reply they will be replying to your email address (iCloud ID or whatever). This will keep the messages in-sync between your iPhone and your Mac (and ipad/ipod...).

Thanks, by reading it, it looks like it’s a solution to what I want. I will try that.

[UncleSpellbinder]

Mephistopheles, on 16 February 2012 - 16:54, said:

In case anybody wants the new default wallpaper from 10.8: http://www.cultofmac...wallpaper-here/

Thanks!