Electronic Cigarettes

[FiB3R]

Not sure which came first, the Orion or the Zenisis, but the original Orion did have a bottom button.

Then a French guy called Pailpo modded it with his own button, so now they have teamed up, and they come with this button as standard.

Pailpo is also working on a replacement button/module, which will give it variable wattage, so you can get a nice consistent vape throughout the life of the battery.

It was going to be controlled by IR remote too lol, but there wasn't enough space apparently :(

http://www.vaporwall...&t=404&start=40

I built my own Gensis style atomiser the other day, but I haven't been able to get it to perform well yet :(

http://ukvapers.com/topic/21750-steeljans-diy-ego-genesis-tank-mod/

[Glen]

Not sure which came first, the Orion or the Zenisis, but the original Orion did have a bottom button.

Then a French guy called Pailpo modded it with his own button, so now they have teamed up, and they come with this button as standard.

Pailpo is also working on a replacement button/module, which will give it variable wattage, so you can get a nice consistent vape throughout the life of the battery.

It was going to be controlled by IR remote too lol, but there wasn't enough space apparently :(

http://www.vaporwall...&t=404&start=40

It would be cool if they just made the atty/tank assembly so it could be used on other battery mods, like the ProVari or LavaTube. I have no idea why they would use an IR remote for voltage/wattage control, but I guess it would be unique. :D

I'll be looking forward to your review, if you choose to post one once you get it.

[FiB3R]

You mean like these?

KruserOne

ScubaGen V3

RTA

RATank

There are probably others I don't know about, or may have forgotten :)

[FiB3R]

Such as this one lol

The DID

[FiB3R]

Z-Atty on top of a GG

[Glen]

Yes, like those. Now I have more stuff I need to look into. This whole "saving money by quitting smoking" thing just isn't working out that well, but at least I feel much healthier! :laugh:

[FiB3R]

LOL. Tell me about it :/

Though I am about to start mixing my own juice, so that is going to save me loads of money :)

[Glen]

LOL. Tell me about it :/

Though I am about to start mixing my own juice, so that is going to save me loads of money :)

Well, did you get the atty tank? How's it working out for you?

For me, the blue LED option on the ProVari forced my hand to get one and it arrived this past week. All I can say is DAYUM! I'm using a 3ohm single coil carto/tank @ 5v and it's working great so far. I would love to get a good atty tank like the ones you posted, and I think we're just starting to see some great innovations in that area.

[mycoolkim]

For me, the blue LED option on the ProVari forced my hand to get one and it arrived this past week. All I can say is DAYUM! I'm using a 3ohm single coil carto/tank @ 5v and it's working great so far. I would love to get a good atty tank like the ones you posted, and I think we're just starting to see some great innovations in that area.

Haha nice blue led :D

Im still using the Provari V2 (red led) on the 3 ohm carto + liqinator tank :D vapes like a freight train at 5v!

Been using the new Ego c-twist as a daily, also not a bad cheapie VV device. Keen to search for a rebuilable carto tank (simmilar to stardust).

[Glen]

Haha nice blue led :D

Im still using the Provari V2 (red led) on the 3 ohm carto + liqinator tank :D vapes like a freight train at 5v!

Been using the new Ego c-twist as a daily, also not a bad cheapie VV device. Keen to search for a rebuilable carto tank (simmilar to stardust).

I've seen the liquinator tanks and they look nice. I recently got a Siam Mods glass tank (clear) and I'm punching Boge XL 3 ohm cartos to use with it. It's been working great, and now I'm on a quest for other glass tanks like the Phiniac etched tanks and the Clean tank from Avid Vaper. I also have a 900mAh Twist that I carry around with me when I'm out, and I use the Precious (ProVari) when I'm home or at friends' houses.

I was using CE4+ (Stardust) on my eGo batteries for a while, but then I started using the E1 clearo line and it just seems to work better with less flavor muting. Between the E1, the new Kanger T2, and the CE3 bottom coil, I don't think I'll be getting any more CE4+ clearos. The other options just seem to work better and provide more flavor.

[mycoolkim]

Ah yea, nice stuff Glen :D

Really looking into a rebuildable tank, so hard to find something I would like :(

[FiB3R]

Well, did you get the atty tank? How's it working out for you?

For me, the blue LED option on the ProVari forced my hand to get one and it arrived this past week. All I can say is DAYUM! I'm using a 3ohm single coil carto/tank @ 5v and it's working great so far. I would love to get a good atty tank like the ones you posted, and I think we're just starting to see some great innovations in that area.

Sorry for the late reply. Yeah, got my Orion and loving it :)

The flavour and throat hit from it is amazing, so much so, that I have to dilute my eliquid, which has the added benefit of making it cheaper :D

Still waiting for the variable wattage switch to be released for it....

- Powered by 2 x AW IMR 18350 batteries

- Constant power regulation via PWM (pulse width modulation) with current/voltage feedback, 90-95% efficiency

- Resistance min = 1,5 Ohm , Ioad max = 6A

- Power max = 44Watts for 2 ohms atomizer @8v

- Lock (3 clicks)

- Bi colour led for visual feedback

Crazy amount of power, while increasing the battery life :woot:

Ah yea, nice stuff Glen :D

Really looking into a rebuildable tank, so hard to find something I would like :(

This is worth a look...

[Glen]

Sorry for the late reply. Yeah, got my Orion and loving it :)

The flavour and throat hit from it is amazing, so much so, that I have to dilute my eliquid, which has the added benefit of making it cheaper :D

Still waiting for the variable wattage switch to be released for it....

- Powered by 2 x AW IMR 18350 batteries

- Constant power regulation via PWM (pulse width modulation) with current/voltage feedback, 90-95% efficiency

- Resistance min = 1,5 Ohm , Ioad max = 6A

- Power max = 44Watts for 2 ohms atomizer @8v

- Lock (3 clicks)

- Bi colour led for visual feedback

Crazy amount of power, while increasing the battery life :woot:

Well, looking at that thing I can tell why you waited to reply... You were most definitely in a vape coma! :o

I'm not one who likes the extra care required for stacked batteries, but I love everything else about that mod. Very nice acquisition you got there!

[FiB3R]

LOL, you're right, I haven't put it down since getting it. There was definitely a learning curve with it though.

In it's current form, it doesn't use stacked batteries, it's either 1 x 18650 or 1 x 18350

The new switch is made for using 2 x 18350 batteries, and has various protections built in to deal with that.

I found out the hard way, what happens when you short one of these High Drain batteries. Bangs, sparks, and melted metal, lol. The battery survived me being an idiot though :)

You can still use 1 x 18650 with the new switch, but the voltage will only be regulated rather than boosted, which is a shame, but still worth the upgrade for that alone.

"mini mode" :laugh:

Full size...

And a lanyard that I made for it :rofl:

Looking particularly scruffy that morning :blush: :laugh:

[Phixion]

...very dubious these things... I wonder if we're going to have people showing signs of illness/disease from these things in 20 years time.

[FiB3R]

...very dubious these things... I wonder if we're going to have people showing signs of illness/disease from these things in 20 years time.

I'm no doctor, but "e-liquid" only contains nicotine (which by itself is no worse for you than caffeine, though far more addictive), propylene glycol and/or vegetable glycerin, plus some food flavouring, which is vaporised, and not burned.

Compare that to this little lot (keep scrolling)... http://www.tricounty...ngredients.html

I guess only time will truly tell, but reports/studies are looking good.

[Phixion]

But excessive nicotine directly hitting the inside of your mouth can't be good for you? I don't know how much nicotine a regular cigarette gives but I'm sure you could inhale a lot more using one of these devices.

[Colin McGregor]

I quit cold turkey but anything that helps you kick that disgusting habit bravo to you.

[Glen]

But excessive nicotine directly hitting the inside of your mouth can't be good for you? I don't know how much nicotine a regular cigarette gives but I'm sure you could inhale a lot more using one of these devices.

Actually, most of these devices aren't as efficient at delivering nicotine as burning tobacco. Most people who vape (use e-cigs) tend to do so more often at first because of the lower nicotine absorption rate, but then you tend to find a slower pace. As Dark already said, it may be true that there will be long term effects from vaping that we don't yet know, but there are definitely long term effects from burning tobacco that we do know. It's all about reducing harm as much as possible and not going crazy from quitting and using pharmaceuticals that do Lord-knows-what to your brain chemistry.

I quit cold turkey but anything that helps you kick that disgusting habit bravo to you.

Absolutely! I quit (paused, actually) cold turkey myself several times for years at a time, but always ended up going back to cigarettes. I'm A.D.D., so the nicotine helps me focus and the e-cigs provide a good way to get that and give up smoking easily. It's not for everyone, but it works for quite a few of us. :D

[Twiddle]

Like the signature!^

I've just started "vaping," this week. As I found out quitting smoking is probably the hardest task I have taken on. It beats out drinking and eating unhealthy by miles, lol.

I did a lot of research after I mistakenly bought a gas station brand E-cig and cartomizers, for a ridiculous price. PureSmoke is the brand, and I thought "How can this thing help people quit?" That thing is horrible, and their classic tobacco flavor was disgusting.

Anyway, I researched and settled upon vapor4life.com, and their Vapor King line of E-cigs. I just got my order in this evening, and was a little upset that they sent me the wrong battery. I ordered two, a standard size automatic white battery, and what was supposed to be a short size manual black battery, but they sent me an EXTRA LONG version, which looks atrocious, and doesn't fit in their carrying case. Hopefully they will remedy this, and send me a replacement free of charge.

I went ahead and tried one puff on the manual, and I really, really like manuals better, but I don't want to use this thing until I get my replacement, so that is a bummer. As for the automatic, this thing is awesome too, way better than the crap PureSmoke brand.

I have to say I was weary of e-cigs, and was scared that I just spent $60 on this starter kit, but man, now I am not. For one, their WOWVapor Kamel flavor is awesome! Feels just like a Camel light, or close enough. And these cartomizers and batteries feel much better. I don't have to drag nearly as hard on this automatic, as I did the cheap one. I feel like I will have no problem quitting now, and maybe the headaches and sweating from cravings will definitely lessen.

Well, here I go on my journey to quitting traditional smokes, and hopefully succeed with my much improved E-cig! Wish me luck!

[Glen]

Like the signature!^

I've just started "vaping," this week. As I found out quitting smoking is probably the hardest task I have taken on. It beats out drinking and eating unhealthy by miles, lol.

I did a lot of research after I mistakenly bought a gas station brand E-cig and cartomizers, for a ridiculous price. PureSmoke is the brand, and I thought "How can this thing help people quit?" That thing is horrible, and their classic tobacco flavor was disgusting.

Anyway, I researched and settled upon vapor4life.com, and their Vapor King line of E-cigs. I just got my order in this evening, and was a little upset that they sent me the wrong battery. I ordered two, a standard size automatic white battery, and what was supposed to be a short size manual black battery, but they sent me an EXTRA LONG version, which looks atrocious, and doesn't fit in their carrying case. Hopefully they will remedy this, and send me a replacement free of charge.

I went ahead and tried one puff on the manual, and I really, really like manuals better, but I don't want to use this thing until I get my replacement, so that is a bummer. As for the automatic, this thing is awesome too, way better than the crap PureSmoke brand.

I have to say I was weary of e-cigs, and was scared that I just spent $60 on this starter kit, but man, now I am not. For one, their WOWVapor Kamel flavor is awesome! Feels just like a Camel light, or close enough. And these cartomizers and batteries feel much better. I don't have to drag nearly as hard on this automatic, as I did the cheap one. I feel like I will have no problem quitting now, and maybe the headaches and sweating from cravings will definitely lessen.

Well, here I go on my journey to quitting traditional smokes, and hopefully succeed with my much improved E-cig! Wish me luck!

Congrats on quitting smoking and finding e-cigs to help you achieve your goal! If you really want some good information on the subject, I can't recommend http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/ enough. They have a great community of people and GBs of information on all things e-cig related. Hope to see you there! :D

[TTGSteve]

Electronic cigarettes are so much better for you than smoking traditional cigarettes. I used to work for a few electronic cigarette websites and I also cover some e-cig topics on my own site. As a matter of fact, soon I'm going to be reviewing all of the major electronic cigarette brands. Right now, the only review I have up is a review for Smoke Frii. You can check it out here if you want: http://thetrendguys.com/2012/08/19/frii-e-cigarette-review-smokefrii/

There are so many benefits to smoking electronics I don't know why people would stick with traditional cigarettes. Also, you save a lot more cash. If any of you check out the review, please let me know what you think!

[Glen]

There are so many benefits to smoking electronics I don't know why people would stick with traditional cigarettes. Also, you save a lot more cash. If any of you check out the review, please let me know what you think!

Well, the benefits you mentioned are most likely there but it's only recently that any real studies have begun to surface. In most cases (except where the study has an agenda), they're only finding short term effects which are similar to other stimulants because of the nicotine dose. We still don't know if there will be long term affects of inhaling polyethylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, and food flavorings into the lungs. In any case, I'm betting on the fact that it's MUCH less damaging that the 4k+ chemicals in cigarette smoke!

As for saving a lot more cash... Have you seen the toys these guys are posting in this thread? They ain't cheap! :laugh: But yes, for those that use it solely as a way to not smoke and don't get into the more advanced "hobby" aspects of vaping, I agree that it can be about a quarter the cost of smoking, if not less.

[Glen]

Well, the benefits you mentioned are most likely there but it's only recently that any real studies have begun to surface. In most cases (except where the study has an agenda), they're only finding short term effects which are similar to other stimulants because of the nicotine dose. We still don't know if there will be long term affects of inhaling polyethylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, and food flavorings into the lungs. In any case, I'm betting on the fact that it's MUCH less damaging that the 4k+ chemicals in cigarette smoke!

A quick correction to my previous post: The PG generally referred to in e-cigarette liquid is not polyethylene glycol, but rather propylene glycol. Some e-liquid does contain polyethylene glycol 400, but it is not as common and is it still considered safe (according to the FDA) for general use.

Just wanted to get the facts straight so there is no additional mis-information on this topic to add to the confusion.

[welchmen22]

Gizmodo did a review. I just quit the other day so I have been debating trying these. Really the only thing keeping me is the rumors/potential hazards. It would be nice if the FDA would hurry up and give a yay or nay.

http://gizmodo.com/5936968/the-best-e+cigarette