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[ArialBlue]

notuptome2004, on 30 March 2012 - 04:29, said:

Oh ok so your telling me that UAC Pops up for you ever time you want to watch a movie or video ....... seriously DRM and UAC are 2 different things UAC pops up to ask weather or not you want to let something run or if for some odd reason some bad software ends up trying to run on your system it makes it so code that you did not want to run on your system wont and it also stops from any male ware or of that sort from trickling down from a web page and gaining acces to your system.



DRM witch in this day and age is not a damn issue because if you have DRM encoded Movies music or anything well that is more less your fault for haveing DRM based Media ( Movies Music ect) for me i use VLC and none of the files i run are DRM encoded so i am fine b ut DRM is for just that type of stuff not Software that wants to run somewhere in the windows underbelly code or just run ramped around your system DRM wont stop that from happending but UAC does


Observation : you must still be running windows XP and refuse to use windows 7 or 8 because you think UAC is Evil and is a system killer and that you think is just DRM and wont let ya do this or that so get that out of your head UAC is security layer not DRM

UAC simply allows applications to fail if they do not request elevation or are explicitly elevated by the user. I have a lot of those. Unless Microsoft changed something about this behavior in 8?

XP is holding back the world. It was good for its time, but like your EX, you have a better life now called 7 - she ain't perfect, sometimes slower, but is otherwise better.

Edited by _Heracles, 30 March 2012 - 04:45.

[+Brando212]

MorganX, on 29 March 2012 - 22:09, said:

After getting Intel's driver on, you can force the higher resolution. Though distorted, works. MS really needs to scale Metro to 1024 x 600. Metro works much, much better on a tablet! There's is potential here. On a tablet, desktop is not really needed.

it won't happen

mostly because netbooks are getting phased out by ultrabooks and resolutions are improving on tablets (will be especially true once Win 8 RTM's)

[jjkusaf]

_Heracles, on 30 March 2012 - 02:06, said:

Yes it is. Both do the same thing - limit me under the guise of doing the right thing.

DRM/UAC are not the same thing.

[theyarecomingforyou]

_Heracles, on 30 March 2012 - 01:44, said:

Interesting. So UAC is now forced upon the user? What up with the world, UAC / DRM is the end of freedom!

You can still set UAC to Never Notify, which is the same for all intents and purposes - it removes virtually all the UAC prompts. Clicking "Continue" when you want to move files into system folders on your boot drive is hardly an issue. If you really want to disable it you still can but I imagine it is integral to the Metro sandboxing, which is necessary for security.

[techguy77]

Stoffel, on 29 March 2012 - 20:28, said:

But how would this be different in Win 8?
You can still pin your applications to the taskbar and put your game shortcuts on the desktop

I have to deal with Start Screen if i want to pin something to my taskbar. I don't care about Metro concept or any application there therefore will uninstall everything as part of my setup and remove every pin except for Desktop if i decide to go with Windows 8. In that sense i need computer to boot into Desktop not Start Screen. Also want to get rid of lock screen because in that case it is useless. Bottom line, there will be **** load of manual work to setup computer the way i want, bad experience out of box. However it is possible after few hours of working on it. The problem is that my Taskbar won't be able to take everything i want which will make my Desktop much busy with shortcuts than with Windows 7 because i want to avoid Start Screen. A good solution is to use run dialog and type in everything extra i run such as control panel, network, homegroup and some other things. At the end there will be Desktop and Metro Screen hanging there with one pin on it (Desktop). Forgot there is right click mouse button in left lower corner with some options. Speaking of search, yeah it will be replaced by full use of run dialog or simply accessing files directly by browsing through windows explorer. I think i am gonna write search program (standalone application) for Windows 8 so Metro is avoided.

Metro does not offer nowhere near Desktop does as far as content for each application. I need adobe flash and i need browser with plugins. i don't need Metro USA today app, i have IE on my desktop where i type address and i get full page experience. I do not understand reason people on PC should limit themselves by interface which was meant for phone and it is already limited by the nature of device it was written for.

[Stoffel]

techguy77, on 30 March 2012 - 13:12, said:

I have to deal with Start Screen if i want to pin something to my taskbar. I don't care about Metro concept or any application there therefore will uninstall everything as part of my setup and remove every pin except for Desktop if i decide to go with Windows 8. In that sense i need computer to boot into Desktop not Start Screen. Also want to get rid of lock screen because in that case it is useless. Bottom line, there will be **** load of manual work to setup computer the way i want, bad experience out of box. However it is possible after few hours of working on it. The problem is that my Taskbar won't be able to take everything i want which will make my Desktop much busy with shortcuts than with Windows 7 because i want to avoid Start Screen. A good solution is to use run dialog and type in everything extra i run such as control panel, network, homegroup and some other things. At the end there will be Desktop and Metro Screen hanging there with one pin on it (Desktop). Forgot there is right click mouse button in left lower corner with some options. Speaking of search, yeah it will be replaced by full use of run dialog or simply accessing files directly by browsing through windows explorer. I think i am gonna write search program (standalone application) for Windows 8 so Metro is avoided.

You are such a girl, whining about a screen that clearly would give you a lot of benefit, but you are just to stubborn to admit it.
Because, oh no, I get distracted when a different screen pops up when I want to start a new app.

You should just quit IT with that attitude

[techguy77]

Stoffel, on 30 March 2012 - 13:21, said:

You are such a girl, whining about a screen that clearly would give you a lot of benefit, but you are just to stubborn to admit it.
Because, oh no, I get distracted when a different screen pops up when I want to start a new app.

You should just quit IT with that attitude

It is not attitude. I am in IT business for long time, and i love it. I don't understand duplications and i see no benefits of Metro apps over Desktop apps. They do not provide enough. For example. I need browser with plugins. Why should i use Metro App USA Today when i can type address in my Desktop browser and have full experience of web page? Why should i use Mail App when i have Desktop Outlook. From practical point of view Metro seems less for traditional PC users and that less is just enough for Smart Phones and Tablets. It brings unnecessary limitation to PC because the nature of Metro follows limitation of Phone or Table as device itself. I hope you understand what i am trying to say. It is not really so much about Metro Start Screen as it is need for little more options given by Microsoft whether to have Metro On or not. It is very little all Metro haters want.

[fornaks86]

techguy77, on 30 March 2012 - 14:39, said:

It is not attitude. I am in IT business for long time, and i love it. I don't understand duplications and i see no benefits of Metro apps over Desktop apps. They do not provide enough. For example. I need browser with plugins. Why should i use Metro App USA Today when i can type address in my Desktop browser and have full experience of web page? Why should i use Mail App when i have Desktop Outlook. From practical point of view Metro seems less for traditional PC users and that less is just enough for Smart Phones and Tablets. It brings unnecessary limitation to PC because the nature of Metro follows limitation of Phone or Table as device itself. I hope you understand what i am trying to say. It is not really so much about Metro Start Screen as it is need for little more options given by Microsoft whether to have Metro On or not. It is very little all Metro haters want.

Do you mean you do not like Metro in general or the Metro implementation in Win8?
How do you rate MetroTwit, Zune, WMC etc ?

[techguy77]

fornaks86, on 30 March 2012 - 16:03, said:

Do you mean you do not like Metro in general or the Metro implementation in Win8?
How do you rate MetroTwit, Zune, WMC etc ?

I like Metro Zune (only one i use), don't have Tweeter account. But i do not look like Metro implementation in Windows 8. Thanks for asking this. I believe MS should take direction (Metro implementation) of Microsoft Zune and MetroTwit for PC. Metro Zune is an example where things are done right and that is Metro implementation within Desktop and not other way around which means Windows Explorer should be Metro (Zune) looking, Control Panel etc but all within Desktop!

[fornaks86]

techguy77, on 30 March 2012 - 17:34, said:

I like Metro Zune (only one i use), don't have Tweeter account. But i do not look like Metro implementation in Windows 8. Thanks for asking this. I believe MS should take direction (Metro implementation) of Microsoft Zune and MetroTwit for PC. Metro Zune is an example where things are done right and that is Metro implementation within Desktop and not other way around which means Windows Explorer should be Metro (Zune) looking, Control Panel etc but all within Desktop!

I agree with this too. MS should bring metro to the desktop and unify the interfaces into one consistent whole.

[Tharp Daddy]

Anyone know if there is a way to jump right to desktop? If i'm in a fullscreen game, and i want to jump back to desktop to check steam chat or such, i have to go to the metro screen, and then go to desktop - and alt tab to swap to it does not always seem to work right. Is there a jump to desktop hot key?

[GreyWolf]

Tharp Daddy, on 31 March 2012 - 15:49, said:

Anyone know if there is a way to jump right to desktop? If i'm in a fullscreen game, and i want to jump back to desktop to check steam chat or such, i have to go to the metro screen, and then go to desktop - and alt tab to swap to it does not always seem to work right. Is there a jump to desktop hot key?

Windows-D... same as it has been.

[Tharp Daddy]

GreyWolf, on 31 March 2012 - 16:10, said:

Windows-D... same as it has been.

Can't say i ever knew about that. Thanks!

[Subhadip]

Tharp Daddy, on 02 April 2012 - 00:05, said:

Can't say i ever knew about that. Thanks!

Might want to read up the keyboard shortcut list. Windows 8 is really a breeze to navigate around in with the keyboard.

[x-byte]

I recently installed Win8 CP on my main PC, which is setup to two monitors. Previously I have used a different PC with a single monitor in small periods at the time.
And wow there is a big different when using Win8 on dual monitors. The new taskbar settings and changes is great. Also the improved wallpaper support for spanned setup is great.

I would recommend that everyone should try two monitors instead of one.

So far everything seems quite stable. A few bumps here and there, but looks really promising. No major issues att.