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Gotta agree. :laugh:

Windows 8 fans please remember the reverse:

Don't act like something is wrong with the people who don't want Windows 8.

We all have the right to accept or reject any new product.

Then reject it and move on... it's the constant moaning over and over that annoys :)

You can discuss it if you like but what's the point? Microsoft aren't going to reverse four or more years of planning and development because of a few comments on Neowin. At this point you have to either like it or lump it.

So your anecdotes are worth more than his anecdotes? Right.

Listen, I'm the first one to admit that I'm a Microsoft fanboy. I love this company, I love their products, I enjoy using them. But not Win8. To me, it's horrible. And with more metro apps on the way, switching from metro to desktop and back to metro again, is going to become even worse. If you like this abomination, fine, use it, enjoy it. I don't mind. We're all different, and like different things. And would you care to explain, who's anecdotes did you have in mind? Thurrott's or Wyn6's?

Can somebody please, for once, explain to my why everybody is all of the sudden saying the desktop UI sucks and NEEDS to evolve NOW?

What is so horribly wrong with the desktop UI that it absolutely NEEDS to evolve NOW, right this second? The fact that it is (basically) the same UI design since Windows 95? Why does that make it bad?

If the iPad hadn't been a huge success, and were just a hobby project like the Apple TV, then your question would make sense. As is, desktops are becoming less popular, and are going to be replaced by tablets. MS was actually working on this since 2004, but quite slowly. Some of the changes in Windows 7 were actually to make it more touch friendly compared to Vista and XP, so MS had already been working on unifying touch and keyboard/mouse UIs. The iPhone and iPad success just spurred them to make the drastic changes much more quickly. That MS was already working on it shows that they knew eventually the shift to tablets would happen, and Apple just accelerated the market shift.

Desktops have been steadily supplanted by laptops, and laptops are getting supplanted by tablets. That's why the change is going to happen, and now.

IMO there are two types of people who dislike Windows 8:

  • The people who explain what they dislike and why they feel it doesn't work for them.
  • The people who have nothing useful to add other than "it's ****", "burn it with fire", "fail", etc.

People in the first category are entitled to their opinions as they've clearly thought about them. People in the second category are haters and trolls and their opinions and posts are worthless.

Unfortunately, every Windows 8 thread on this site is full of people like Techguy77 who falls clearly into the second category and just wastes everyone's time with ignorant posts and there are very few posts like the OP's that are worth reading. Unfortunately the mods don't seem to care that Neowin is becoming a second rate site and they're happy to let the haters take over.

well said.

Well it hasn't taken off on the phones. Honestly you could prolly make a desktop OS with Android ICS compare to the windows phone 7 OS

It may look like WP but will still run like ass i.e. Android. Remember, people skinned WM to extreme but in the end the underlying ugly mess still bubbled up pretty quickly. Android is no different.

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