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[Miuku.]

.Neo, on 28 April 2012 - 13:32, said:

Such as?

Such as the ability to open an application window in exactly the same position, same dimension and in the same screen comes to mind - neither OS X nor Windows handles this gracefully. Ability to resize window decorations and border independent of the theme, ability to customize buttons and their location as I see fit , choose per window fonts, themes, colours - whatever I want.

These may not seem like great things to your average Joe but they are but a small example of the things I'd love to get on OS X right now from Linux.

[still1]

I will give it 7..with only a day of use i came across many bugs. Unity is fairly new so i am expecting more bug fixes on the next release.
overall its nice.

[Syanide]

The Laughing Man, on 28 April 2012 - 11:59, said:

I dislike the direction they took. Unity killed it for me. Since Ubuntu 11.04, I switched to using other sources such as Linux Mint.( which also works great on PPC )

Why are you rating 12.04 then?

Anywho, Neo's right. The biggest problem with Ubuntu stopped being about Ubuntu itself. The OS is just fine, it's the app support that pretty much kills it, and that's an issue that will be incredibly hard for them to overcome.

[xorangekiller]

So far, I'm really liking the extra refinement that Canonical put into this release. The Ubuntu experience is just so smooth now. Also, the HUD is really nice; I love it!

However, I only gave Ubuntu 12.04 a 9 because of a few nit-picks. For example, a somewhat trivial but very annoying change is the removal of aptitude and Synaptic from the default installation. (I believe this one actually happened in Ubuntu 11.10, but its still relevant.) They are both excellent repository management tools that most power users will appreciate. Since I often use Ubuntu from the live disc on various machines, it is somewhat annoying to need to install apt-cache, aptitude, or Synaptic just to search the repository when I forget the name of a package I need to install. Granted, that could say something about my memory -- but we're not going to go there.

Overall, this release of Ubuntu isn't going to make me switch from Debian Squeeze/Wheezy (on my various machines), but I still think that they did an excellent job and it is a step in the right direction. I would definitely recommend it to a new user over Debian (or any other distro, really).

[The Laughing Man]

Syanide, on 28 April 2012 - 15:13, said:

Why are you rating 12.04 then?

Anywho, Neo's right. The biggest problem with Ubuntu stopped being about Ubuntu itself. The OS is just fine, it's the app support that pretty much kills it, and that's an issue that will be incredibly hard for them to overcome.

I'm rating it because I wanted to give it a second chance, Tried it and did not fancy it. Am I not allowed to be entitled to an opinion?

[mps69]

I'm going to defer my rating for a few days.
I've just done a clean install, from 10.10 to 12.04 and it's been a bit bumpy. I don't think it's much to do with the OS more around the fact that I'm running a PC which is lacking in both power and memory, most notably when I've got the Dash open, there is a bit of a lag, maybe it's time for a new machine.
Also having dual monitor caused me a bit of a headache, having to tweak the setting to get it just right, even still I'm not 100% happy having the launcher bar in middle, rather than the far left screen.
Another thing is Unity seems to create two panels, one on each screen, but without the abilty to remove the notification from the second one.
The overall experience hasn't been bad, just not as smooth when I installed 10.10. I'm still a fan of Ubuntu, but i really can't see this version being a windows or OSX killer, it's a bit too fiddly for the everyday user, but for me it's does what it says on the tin.
I'm just going to play and tweak some more.

[ledgori]

I still have problems with the desktop environments. KDE seems so inconsistent. Many settings so fragmented though it is the same category. Gnome is a little too much basically and unity... no! This is not Ubuntus fault so I don't rate. The system works stable and with ubuntuusers (a German big wiki and community for all *ubuntu systems) say me all what I want to know. Finally I still don't see a replace for Windows in it. Just for a little daily routine maybe. Event don't for music it is interesting for me.

Maybe neutral, 5... not good and not bad. It works. See a special in it? no!

[.Neo]

MiukuMac, on 28 April 2012 - 14:12, said:

Such as the ability to open an application window in exactly the same position, same dimension and in the same screen comes to mind - neither OS X nor Windows handles this gracefully. Ability to resize window decorations and border independent of the theme, ability to customize buttons and their location as I see fit , choose per window fonts, themes, colours - whatever I want.

These may not seem like great things to your average Joe but they are but a small example of the things I'd love to get on OS X right now from Linux.

I wanted to know what "great applications" you have running on KDE that don't have equal or better counterparts on OS X and Windows.

[butilikethecookie]

I'd say 8.5

What's up with the right click menu? Last time I saw that was Windows 98SE...They also need to overhaul the icons...They aren't the prettiest thing to look at. Is there a utility to change icons in Ubuntu? Like the default folder icon, Computer, Trash, etc.

[+Mephistopheles]

butilikethecookie, on 01 May 2012 - 17:39, said:

I'd say 8.5

What's up with the right click menu? Last time I saw that was Windows 98SE...They also need to overhaul the icons...They aren't the prettiest thing to look at. Is there a utility to change icons in Ubuntu? Like the default folder icon, Computer, Trash, etc.

There are several icon themes you can install and apply using tools like Ubuntu Tweak. My personal favourite: the Faenza icon theme..

[butilikethecookie]

Mephistopheles, on 01 May 2012 - 17:42, said:

There are several icon themes you can install and apply using tools like Ubuntu Tweak. My personal favourite: the Faenza icon theme..

Love it! Thank you! The default icons were beginning to annoy me.

[threetonesun]

The usability of Linux really depends on what you usually use your computer for. Yeah, if you're in adobe CS all day, or if you NEED access/ excel / word, or you NEED certain IDEs, then sure, Linux isn't going to cut it. For the average home user, though, it's not really lacking in anything these days, and in terms of free software, it's on par or better than OSX / Windows.

[UncleSpellbinder]

threetonesun, on 01 May 2012 - 17:49, said:

...For the average home user, though, it's not really lacking in anything these days, and in terms of free software, it's on par or better than OSX / Windows.

Well said. I was dual booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu for years. Last week when installing 12.04, I wiped the drive. No more dual booting, no more Windows. In the past week of using the computer the same way I did with Windows, I've not had an issue. Documents, PDFs, Images, mp3/flac, AVI, MKV, MP4, WMV, updating apps to current - all no problem.

I'm really loving this version.

[Growled]

I gave it a 2, mainly for Unity. I hate it. It's slow and gets in my way.

[Syanide]

The Laughing Man, on 29 April 2012 - 01:25, said:

I'm rating it because I wanted to give it a second chance, Tried it and did not fancy it. Am I not allowed to be entitled to an opinion?

Apologies, of course you can rate it, but your first post wasn't really clear on which version you tried. And god knows Linux users tend to appear in any DE/distro discussion to glorify the thing they're using despite the fact it has nothing to do with the discussion.