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[htcz]

Hey

Let me see how I explain this:


Network 1:

WAN add: 88.34.12.3

Router add: 192.168.100.100

Netmask: 255.255.255.0

Clients (for examples): 192.168.100.2, 192.168.100.3, etc


Network 2:

WAN add: 94.55.98.3

Router add: 192.168.1.1

Netmask: 255.255.255.0

Clients (for examples): 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.4, etc


Now how can I "join" both networks so when Im at a PC with 192.168.100.2 I can ping (and access) 192.168.1.4?

VLANs? Routes? Subnetting?

Thanks!

[offroadaaron]

VPN

[+Xenosion]

If these two networks can be physically connected and the equipment is capable of routes, that is the way to go.
If the network are separated by public internet space, a VPN router at end will be your only option.
VPN would work in either case though. It just seems a little silly to VPN in scenario 1.

[htcz]

Xenosion, on 04 May 2012 - 13:13, said:

If these two networks can be physically connected and the equipment is capable of routes, that is the way to go.
If the network are separated by public internet space, a VPN router at end will be your only option.
VPN would work in either case though. It just seems a little silly to VPN in scenario 1.

I think I have have explained myself incorrectly.

There is only ONE scenario. 2 networks seperated by a public space (internet would be the case) but I want to them to be seeable and access each other freely.

Besides VPN (which I knew of ) is there any other choice (irrelevent if it is better ot worst; I just want to be able to explain it and give options)?

Also something that can be done freely; Nothing proprietary

[cybertimber2008]

VPN or a point-to-point connection (fiber, etc)
If you want "freely", then VPN solutions are the direction you should look.

[CentralDogma]

If you just need one computer to be accessible from the other network, you could use DMZ or port forwarding.

[+sc302]

without putting in other services (mpls, fiber, or some other point to point connection), the only way to do this is with a vpn.

[htcz]

I went ahead and drew this out (yes I know my drawing skill are great )

This is basically what I have. Just to show you a bit what I mean


Now, I knew about VPN and I understand if it is the only way but theres no other technology out there? I would understand it being "difficult" as with NAT, Firewalls, etc a direct connection like this would be impossible but just to know

Also, how can I configure a VPN via simply command line? One of the reasons I asked for alternatives to VPN is because on some of these I only have access to a command line and Im not sure if Linux distros by default include a VPN server/client.

Thanks to all that have helped.

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htcz, on 04 May 2012 - 14:44, said:

I went ahead and drew this out (yes I know my drawing skill are great )

This is basically what I have. Just to show you a bit what I mean


Now, I knew about VPN and I understand if it is the only way but theres no other technology out there? I would understand it being "difficult" as with NAT, Firewalls, etc a direct connection like this would be impossible but just to know

Also, how can I configure a VPN via simply command line? One of the reasons I asked for alternatives to VPN is because on some of these I only have access to a command line and Im not sure if Linux distros by default include a VPN server/client.

Thanks to all that have helped.

VPN Routers at each end, static IP for each sites Internet connection, create a tunnel, done. Google -
SRXN3205

[htcz]

Neowin's stupid attachment system is acting up...

[+Xenosion]

htcz, on 04 May 2012 - 14:44, said:

I went ahead and drew this out (yes I know my drawing skill are great )

This is basically what I have. Just to show you a bit what I mean


Now, I knew about VPN and I understand if it is the only way but theres no other technology out there? I would understand it being "difficult" as with NAT, Firewalls, etc a direct connection like this would be impossible but just to know

Also, how can I configure a VPN via simply command line? One of the reasons I asked for alternatives to VPN is because on some of these I only have access to a command line and Im not sure if Linux distros by default include a VPN server/client.

Thanks to all that have helped.

You say you know what VPN is but then you talk about configuring it via command line. Unless you have some moderately sophisticated server at each end, what in the world are you thinking?

VPN is it. There's nothing wrong with the technology so what is the hesitation?
There are software VPN solutions like Hamachi, but just do it right and get hardware.

Edit after seeing picture: So you already have routers at each end. Well, what model are they?

[htcz]

xendrome, on 04 May 2012 - 14:48, said:

VPN Routers at each end, static IP for each sites Internet connection, create a tunnel, done. Google -
SRXN3205

Ah VPN routers.....thats what I am trying to avoid!

Not really avoid, just if it cant be done any other way, it cant be done.

The SRXN3205 is kind of cheap and used at a domestic level right?; We are looking for more industrial "module" type of routers. Google - NetModule NB1600

[htcz]

Xenosion, on 04 May 2012 - 14:54, said:

You say you know what VPN is but then you talk about configuring it via command line. Unless you have some moderately sophisticated server at each end, what in the world are you thinking?

VPN is it. There's nothing wrong with the technology so what is the hesitation?

Edit after seeing picture: So you already have routers at each end. Well, what model are they?

This information is both unknown (actually I know one end only but im looking for something that wouldnt matter) and unreplacable Buying the 2 cheapest DD-WRT routers, turning on their VPN features and calling it a day wont do justice here....

Even if it is VPN, there has to be SOME configuration at the end to end point: Someone listening and another one sending (in a PTPP).

I guess VPN then is the only way.

[htcz]

Oh, what about if internet is not in the middle? (Take the picture I put there and instead of a circle that says internet replace it with a line connecting both routers)


This is nothing about the situation; Just personal intrest to learn more.

[+Xenosion]

htcz, on 04 May 2012 - 14:59, said:

I guess VPN then is the only way.

Once again, yes.

htcz, on 04 May 2012 - 14:59, said:

Buying the 2 cheapest DD-WRT routers, turning on their VPN features and calling it a day wont do justice here....

Why not?

htcz, on 04 May 2012 - 14:59, said:

Even if it is VPN, there has to be SOME configuration at the end to end point: Someone listening and another one sending (in a PTPP).

Of course there's configuration, but to ask how to do it via command line implies you know the equipment at each end.