Recommended Posts

So, I had Windows 8 blow up in my face yesterday. Still not sure what happened or what caused it, but the test system self destructed forcing me to do a disk scan and "Refresh" (More on that later). Everything is back to working order, however Windows 8 is and isn't connected to my network... I'm not sure what's going on here, but I have Windows telling me it is, but isn't connecting to my Ethernet LAN. I tried IPConfig, reseating my NIC, and re-installing the drivers to no avail. Any ideas?

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1089367-windows-8-network-adapter-troubles/
Share on other sites

I'd do a reinstall. If you system "self destructed" it is likely something got corrupted.

If you did an ipconfig /release and a rewnew, did a /flushdns , reinstalled your drivers, tried resetting the nic, and are indeed getting a valid IP from your ISP or router, I am not sure what else you can try.

Well, at this point, a re-install would be more trouble than it's worth. If there's nothing else I can do, it would be more worthwhile to blow the installation away and use it for storage. :/

What exactly were your issues before, what was the symptom of "self destruct".

Try manually assigning all parameters of the connection. Manually assign the ip, gateway and dns servers.

There were no symptoms. I had to restart my machine so I could boot into Windows 7, and when I booted back into Windows 8, nothing worked, nothing started, and Windows was telling me my drive needed scanned for errors.

what's the IP address that gets assigned to it? is it in your expected range?

192.168.1.2.

have you tried a system restore? I don't know if it would help much more then your system refresh did, but it's worth a try.

I cannot for the life of me find System Restore anymore. I think (Don't quote me on this though) that the new "Refresh your PC" feature replaces system restore. But get this, it totally reformats your system and removes your x64 apps. :angry: However, it did nothing for my issue, and left me with a even more busted Windows 8 installation.

I cannot for the life of me find System Restore anymore. I think (Don't quote me on this though) that the new "Refresh your PC" feature replaces system restore. But get this, it totally reformats your system and removes your x64 apps. :angry: However, it did nothing for my issue, and left me with a even more busted Windows 8 installation.

ouch...

System Restore is still there, search for "System Restore" on your Start Menu, then go to Settings and click "Create a restore point." then click the button that says "System Restore..." :p

ouch...

System Restore is still there, search for "System Restore" on your Start Menu, then go to Settings and click "Create a restore point." then click the button that says "System Restore..." :p

Well this sucks. I have ZERO restore points! Why the **** is Windows 8 not making restore points automatically?

Well this sucks. I have ZERO restore points! Why the **** is Windows 8 not making restore points automatically?

yeah, I've noticed this ever since the DP...it seems to be some kind of space saving feature -.- in the DP or CP (I don't remember which one) even to get to system restore you had to enable it in the add/remove windows features window. oh well, there goes my only suggestion :\

I'm sorry to say this but you lost your restore points at the refresh. Windows 8 does create restore points when you add or remove software (I have several and I've never changed a restore setting)

Unfortunately, it seems "refresh" is the default answer to fix people's Windows 8 PCs. If you ask a question on the forums about Windows 8 problem, you're going to get told to refresh the PC. That's great for your metro apps, which will automatically reinstall, but desktop apps get wiped, with little warning (other than a "Your apps will be removed)

Windows 8 does create restore points when you add or remove software (I have several and I've never changed a restore setting)

I don't have any pointers to fix your network adapter, I'm sorry to say :-\

What IP address are you getting?

check to see if Windows 8 is still installed on C drive, if the bootloader has messed up then it can cause problems like you are having

The OS isn't going to automagically change which drive is installed on, and if it did it wouldn't boot at all. Especially if the boot loader is messed up like you are thinking.

The OS isn't going to automagically change which drive is installed on, and if it did it wouldn't boot at all. Especially if the boot loader is messed up like you are thinking.

i have seen this happen a few times to be sure. windows makes a small hidden partition in front of the main OS partition, for whatever reason sometimes that hidden partition can become unhidden and C drive. yes most of the time it will just blue screen on boot if this happens but sometimes it will boot to windows just with lots of problems.

check to see if Windows 8 is still installed on C drive, if the bootloader has messed up then it can cause problems like you are having

I can boot into it no problem. It recognizes all my drives, but it just has trouble with going online to some sites. Metro apps don't even work at all.

I'm sorry to say this but you lost your restore points at the refresh. Windows 8 does create restore points when you add or remove software (I have several and I've never changed a restore setting)

Unfortunately, it seems "refresh" is the default answer to fix people's Windows 8 PCs. If you ask a question on the forums about Windows 8 problem, you're going to get told to refresh the PC. That's great for your metro apps, which will automatically reinstall, but desktop apps get wiped, with little warning (other than a "Your apps will be removed)

Windows 8 does create restore points when you add or remove software (I have several and I've never changed a restore setting)

I don't have any pointers to fix your network adapter, I'm sorry to say :-\

What IP address are you getting?

ah, this is good to know :D yeah, I'm pretty unhappy with how now the default answer to all Windows problems is "try a Refresh" (which is replacing the slightly less destroying Reboot answer :p)

can you ping your gateway?

Seriously surprised it took this long for someone to mention that...

Can you post the results of these commands...

ping 192.168.2.1

ipconfig /all (from Windows 8 and Windows 7)

route -print (from Windows 8 and Windows 7)

Also, have you installed an AntiVirus or Firewall? And have you tried to disable your firewall to see if that makes any change?

can you ping your gateway?

Seriously surprised it took this long for someone to mention that...

Can you post the results of these commands...

ping 192.168.2.1

ipconfig /all (from Windows 8 and Windows 7)

route -print (from Windows 8 and Windows 7)

Also, have you installed an AntiVirus or Firewall? And have you tried to disable your firewall to see if that makes any change?

Too late. I found myself with some extra time and forced myself into a re-install. I'm assuming since I had partial Internet connectivity that I could ping my gateway, but I never bothered trying. I know I did do a IPCONFIG /RELEASE and IPCONFIG /RENEW.

OK ... I appear to be having a very similar problem to the one Dot Matrix has been experiencing, and it's only just kicked in

this evening. Ironically, on the very day that thousands of internet connections are due to go belly up because of the FBI

throwing the kill switch on the DNS servers they seized from the DNSChanger malware muppets!

I don't want to have to refresh/reset/reinstall Windows unless all possible solutions are tried and don't resolve the issue.

The situation is this ... my main OS on my main PC is Windows 8 Release Preview, on a dual boot, alongside Windows XP.

The internet, and all network connections on my media centre PC downstairs are fine. The same goes for our webserver.

All three computers (and my XBox360) are set to static IP rather than DHCP. The router is on 198.168.1.1, my main PC

is on 198.168.1.3, the webserver is on 198.168.1.4, and the media centre PC is on 198.168.1.7.

The network settings on the main PC:

IP address: 198.168.1.3

Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway: 198.168.1.1

Preferred DNS server: 198.168.1.4

Alternative DNS server: 198.168.1.1

These settings have always worked with no problems, adverse or otherwise, ever since they were first setup.

Now ... the network connection with Windows 8 on the main PC is live, and says there is internet access. Indeed, the Activity

section of the connection status window, shows data is being sent and received. I can access all the shared folders on the

other computers on the network from the main PC, and can access them via Remote Desktop Connection.

Yet not one single web browser or internet application on this install of Windows 8 can get any internet action!

With the Windows XP installation on the main PC, no problem. All systems go. Full, unfettered, internet access.

I could, for the time being drop back to Windows XP for a while. While it does work fine for such a long in the tooth OS,

it is still very old, and to be honest, I do prefer Windows 8 ... much like quite a few other folks around here.

Guys, on a side note if you're not using 3rd party DNS server(s) - you should start.

Whether it is Google's (8.8.8.8) & (8.8.4.4) or OpenDNS (208.67.222.222) & (208.67.220.220)

There are DNS testing utilities that can tell you what the fastest ones are for your specific connection also.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • One of the strangest galaxies in our Universe could help answer some long overdue questions by Sayan Sen Image by Pixabay via Pexels | Not representative An international team of astronomers led by the Department of Astronomy at Tsinghua University has discovered an unusually metal-poor galaxy that may contain signs of first-generation star formation. The galaxy, named Metal-Pristine Galaxy COSMOS Redshift 3 (MPG-CR3), or CR3, was identified using observations from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST), the Very Large Telescope (VLT), and the Subaru Telescope. The findings, published in The Astrophysical Journal Letters, describe CR3 as the most metal-poor galaxy known from the period known as "cosmic noon," around 11.5 billion years ago. Cosmic noon refers to a period when the universe was producing stars at its highest rate and galaxies were growing rapidly. In astronomy, "metals" refers to all elements heavier than helium, including oxygen, carbon, and iron. Because CR3 contains so few of these heavier elements, researchers say it closely resembles what scientists expect the earliest galaxies in the universe may have looked like. The discovery is significant because it could offer clues about Population III (Pop III) stars, the first generation of stars thought to have formed after the Big Bang. These stars are believed to have formed from gas made almost entirely of hydrogen and helium, before heavier elements were created inside stars and spread across the universe through supernova explosions. Hence this is why CR3 has been referred to as a "living fossil." Scientists have long believed that Population III stars existed only in the very early universe. As more generations of stars formed and died, they enriched surrounding gas with heavier elements, making the conditions needed for metal-free star formation increasingly rare. Because of this, researchers expected the formation of such stars to have largely ended after the epoch of reionization, a period when radiation from the first stars and galaxies transformed the neutral hydrogen filling the universe and made it largely transparent to ultraviolet light. CR3 appears to challenge that idea. The galaxy was observed at a redshift of z = 3.193 ± 0.016. Redshift measures how much light from a distant object has been stretched as the universe expands and helps astronomers determine how far back in time they are looking. In this case, the redshift corresponds to roughly 11.5 billion years ago during cosmic noon. Although the universe was already several billion years old by that point, CR3 shows characteristics more commonly associated with much earlier galaxies. Observations revealed exceptionally strong emissions from hydrogen and helium, including Lyα, Hα, and He I λ10830. Lyα, or Lyman-alpha emission, is a specific wavelength of light produced by hydrogen and is widely used to study distant galaxies. Hα emission is another hydrogen signature commonly used to trace active star formation, while He I λ10830 is produced by helium and can indicate the presence of very hot, young stars. The measured equivalent widths of EW₀(Lyα) = 822 ± 101 Å and EW₀(Hα) = 2814 ± 327 Å are among the highest ever observed in star-forming galaxies. Equivalent width is a measure of the strength of an emission line relative to the surrounding light, and such large values are typically associated with intense and very recent star formation. At the same time, researchers found no statistically significant detections of metal emission lines, including [O III] λλ4959, 5007 and C IV λλ1548, 1550. Emission lines act as chemical fingerprints that reveal which elements are present in a galaxy. Oxygen and carbon lines are commonly seen in galaxies that have already undergone significant chemical enrichment. Their absence in CR3 suggests an unusually pristine environment. Using abundance calibration methods developed with JWST observations, the team placed a 2σ upper limit on the galaxy's gas-phase metallicity of 12+log(O/H)<6.52, corresponding to less than 0.7% of the Sun's metallicity (Z < 7 × 10⁻³ Z⊙). Gas-phase metallicity measures the abundance of heavy elements in a galaxy's gas. A 2σ upper limit indicates that the true value is very unlikely to be higher than the quoted threshold. Even when accounting for uncertainties in the calibration methods, the most conservative limit remains 12+log(O/H)<6.95, making CR3 the most metal-poor galaxy identified at cosmic noon. The galaxy also appears to contain very little dust. Researchers measured a Lyα/Hα flux ratio of 13.9 ± 2.5, a result that suggests negligible dust attenuation, meaning very little of the galaxy's light is being absorbed or scattered by cosmic dust. Because dust is usually produced by earlier generations of stars, this finding further supports the idea that CR3 has experienced very little chemical enrichment. Further analysis using spectral energy distribution modelling, a technique that compares observed light with theoretical models, suggests that CR3 contains an extremely young stellar population only around 2 million years old. The modelling, which used Population III stellar templates, also indicates the galaxy has a stellar mass of approximately 6.1 × 10⁵ M⊙. The symbol M⊙ represents one solar mass, or the mass of the Sun. One of the key questions raised by the discovery is how such a chemically primitive galaxy could exist in a universe that had already spent billions of years producing heavier elements. To investigate this, the researchers examined CR3's surroundings. Their analysis suggests the galaxy may lie in a slightly underdense environment, with a density contrast of roughly δ ≈ −0.12. An underdense region contains less matter and fewer galaxies than average. The team suggests that this relative isolation may have helped preserve pockets of pristine gas. Metal-rich material expelled from nearby galaxies may never have reached CR3, while the lower rate of galaxy mergers and interactions could have slowed the mixing of enriched gas into the system. If future observations confirm these findings, CR3 could provide some of the strongest evidence yet that first-generation star formation continued well after the epoch of reionization. Such a result would challenge the conventional view that pristine star formation ended by z ≳ 6 and suggest that small pockets of metal-free gas survived much longer than previously thought. Researchers stress that more observations will be needed to determine the galaxy's true nature. Future spectroscopic studies with higher resolution and better signal quality could help confirm whether CR3 is genuinely hosting Population III star formation. The discovery is also expected to encourage searches for other similar galaxies, which could help astronomers better understand how the first stars formed and how galaxies evolved in the early universe. Source: Tsinghua University, IOPscience This article was generated with some help from AI and reviewed by an editor. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, this material is used for the purpose of news reporting. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
    • "I think in the immediate absence of a partner to apply relief" In the words of Sterling Archer... "Phrasing!"
    • For me, the fundamental problems with these "smartglasses" is that they really don't work well for people with significant prescriptions and massively up the price if you use attached lenses if they have displays, and if they don't, then they're not actually "smart" anything, rather just connecting to your phone and relaying voice to an AI. In a few cases like this, they throw in small cameras to feed video to the AI. All around, these feel like both a solution looking for a problem, and the problems it tries to solve seem more easily solved by different approaches and designs. Oddly, if the rumours are true, Apple may actually have invented something for once and it kind of does this right: put cameras in ear buds and manage the interface to AI exactly as most of us do: tapping on an ear bud and saying "Hey Google" or "Hey Siri." That makes them compatible with almost everyone, can double up as a hearing assist device, an impaired vision assist device, a "smart" device... and answer your phone and play music. That just seems like a better solution all around.
    • Usually the bigger ones with many fixes/changes take a few, theyre an exception to the rule most likely
    • If you don’t get lucky with Valve’s Steam Machine reservation system, you can make your own Steam Machine instead. Valve says that “starting with the SteamOS 3.8 release, you can put together your own Steam Machine using whatever PC parts you want.” SteamOS 3.8.10 launched last week with a slew of updates, including “improved compatibility with recent Intel and AMD platforms.” Alongside that improved compatibility, Valve is giving gamers the green light to install SteamOS on their own desktops. In an interview with The Verge, Valve’s Pierre-Loup Griffais said Valve has been “rolling out improvements to [SteamOS] so it’s more compatible with desktop hardware,” including eventual support for Nvidia graphics. Griffais says Valve has “a growing team” working on Nvidia driver support for SteamOS, adding, “We’re collaborating with Nvidia very closely.” While he mentioned that Nvidia support might not come this year, Griffais emphasized that “it’s certainly something that we’re working on in the background.”     Subscription not needed: https://archive.fo/Tssfc Subscription needed: https://www.theverge.com/games/953411/valve-steamos-desktop-nvidia
  • Recent Achievements

    • Dedicated
      HidekoYamamoto94 earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • One Month Later
      timbobit earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Month Later
      nates earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Almohandis earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Rookie
      dorf went up a rank
      Rookie
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      452
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      161
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      107
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      84
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      70
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!