Question

Hello!

I was just trying out Office 2013, been playing with it for a while. Aside the fact that it seems to be (much) slower than Office 2010 everything seems about okay. One thing that annoys me slightly is the cursor animation, it makes me feel like I'm a slow typist even though I'm absolutely not.

One huge thing I absolutely hate right now is the inability to choose another color for the user interface. The white is WAY too bright, especially when it fills your entire display. It's extremely uncomfortable to work with and it makes your page drown in the user interface - especially on bigger displays. I don't have it installed anymore, but the black theme in 2010 was really comfortable to work in, putting the focus completely on your content. But now everything is white, and there is no way to change it.

Gt2Gf.png

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1091663-office-2013-annoying-things/
Share on other sites

Recommended Posts

  • 0

They should add more colour to them, white is too bland. They should have the option of themes like in previous versions, or colourise it by the app colour.

1987 called; they want their interface back.

post-128385-0-91568300-1342532220.png

  • 0

I also noticed that for some unknown reason that it leaves behind a lot of .bak files like outlook.exe.bak, same filesize as the original EXE's (about 260 MB worth in total, seems to make a backup of every EXE and DLL in the main folder). I tried deleting them and it seems to have had no ill effects so I can't quite work out what their purpose is.

  • 0

The glide animation is ok I guess but I seem to have experiencing the same problem (delayed movement of the cursor) on Powerpoint. It's smooth as silk on Word (and it looks great and I love it) even on large documents but on Powerpoint, the gliding seems a bit clunky when typing.

  • 0

Another thing I don't like is the text rendering. It seems to be much less crisp than it used to be in 2007/2010. I really need to compare it properly (and I might tomorrow), but it looks like they ditched subpixel rendering and went with something else, probably DirectWrite (hence the Windows 7 requirement). While it makes big (huge) font sizes look better, fonts at a normal text size (the vast majority of what you'll be doing in Word) look quite bad.

ClearType sub-pixel anti-aliasing is missing for most of the interface in this preview. I wrote about it here and highlighted the parts of the Word 2013 UI that still respect the system setting: http://blog.quppa.net/2012/07/17/office-2013-further-evidence-of-the-demise-of-cleartype/

Outlook 2013 has half its text rendered with ClearType and half with greyscale anti-aliasing, and OneNote 2013 is mostly ClearType with the exception of the ribbon. I'm hoping this will be fixed by RTM, but I won't hold my breath.

  • Like 2
  • 0

Some Annoying Stuff

I'm confused why do I get 5 downloads of Office?

Also The My Office Buttons stream to my PC where is the online only (beta) web apps?

Will I be able to get an office version with only Word Powerpoint Excel and Onenote?

The Stark White Blinds me how about some themeing such as the blue black silver wood metal etc?

Hard to differentiate the document from the program background

Takes up lots of memory..

  • 0

Simply don't maximize the window on a screen that big then.

lame excuse, it huts my eyes when its not maxamized, problem is there is too much white... remember back in the old days they use to use dark blue backgrounds just to soften the strain on your eyes in text editors?...

I've been messing with Office 2013 since yesterday and my eyes do hurt when working with it, you need more color to break up the brightness, evne the ribbon icons are too "wireframe" esc and feel too dull / bright / too washed out

the design littearly reminds me of the late 1980's and early 1990's when color was a precious resource and you had to pallet swap to get more colors......

  • 0

80's style is starting to come back in fashion ;)

80's style came back in fashion 10 years ago, did you miss that? the faded t-shirts and the atari esc logos... care bears, smurfs, cabbage patch kids, etc.... we are just now leaving that phase going back to the early 90's styles again....

  • 0

Simply don't maximize the window on a screen that big then.

Holy ****, really? I'm so sick of metro fanboi's saying don't use it this way or don't do this. You sound almost as bad as jobs saying you're holding it wrong.

Why should such a simple thing like having the window maximized (and in word this is great since you can set the thing to show more than one page while it's maximized). How about MS actually listen to the majority for once and give us some better UI options and incentives. Simply don't maximize the window then? Why not take away the maximize button then. Give me a break.

  • 0

It only streams the applications in the background until the files have completed downloading, then it reverts to running off your local drives.

With the advantage that it allows you to keep your existing 2010 installation. The full download says you have to uninstall any previous versions.

  • 0

The world does not need a new MS Office suite every other year. There is nothing wrong with Office 2010.

We don't need a lot of things. However to progress new versions must be released. You can easily stay with 2010 if you want.

  • 0

If you sign in using the link at the top right corner of Excel, Word etc., (next to the smiley) you can change the theme.

Don't expect much, though.

Your Windows 8 account picture also appears here after you sign in.

  • 0

If you sign in using the link at the top right corner of Excel, Word etc., (next to the smiley) you can change the theme.

Don't expect much, though.

Your Windows 8 account picture also appears here after you sign in.

Tried that, didn't give me the option to change the theme.

  • 0

If you sign in using the link at the top right corner of Excel, Word etc., (next to the smiley) you can change the theme.

Don't expect much, though.

Your Windows 8 account picture also appears here after you sign in.

You can change the graphic used on the ribbon background. As for the actual window chrome, your options are: White, white or.. white.

  • 0

Tried that, didn't give me the option to change the theme.

You have to go into FILE|OPTIONS, then check where it says "Personalize your copy of..."

You have to at least open a blank document first.

  • 0

You have to go into FILE|OPTIONS, then check where it says "Personalize your copy of..."

You have to at least open a blank document first.

Well it certainly looks better without those irritating circles and stripes, shame you can't change the background colour though. Thanks for the tip!

  • 0

Well it certainly looks better without those irritating circles and stripes, shame you can't change the background colour though. Thanks for the tip!

No Prob.

Edit: And yes. I would like very much to be able to change the bg colour.

  • 0

ClearType sub-pixel anti-aliasing is missing for most of the interface in this preview. I wrote about it here and highlighted the parts of the Word 2013 UI that still respect the system setting: http://blog.quppa.ne...e-of-cleartype/

Outlook 2013 has half its text rendered with ClearType and half with greyscale anti-aliasing, and OneNote 2013 is mostly ClearType with the exception of the ribbon. I'm hoping this will be fixed by RTM, but I won't hold my breath.

This for me is the most annoying thing. Subpixel AA is a great thing, it's a shame Microsoft is axing another great feature just to make things possibly look better on tablets with mixed orientation support. It sucks. Microsoft needs to realize that Office users are productive users who will be using a mouse and keyboard, not a touch interface. Make Metro viewer applications with annotation support and all that, but a touch-focused version of Office makes no sense.

  • 0

Some Annoying Stuff

I'm confused why do I get 5 downloads of Office?

Also The My Office Buttons stream to my PC where is the online only (beta) web apps?

Will I be able to get an office version with only Word Powerpoint Excel and Onenote?

The Stark White Blinds me how about some themeing such as the blue black silver wood metal etc?

Hard to differentiate the document from the program background

Takes up lots of memory..

Multiple PCs, VMs, etc. (Why 5 downloads)

Also, if anything, I find it uses *less* memory compared to the 2010 versions - all the more shocking in the case of Word 2013's ability to edit PDFs directly, and as a native file type. (You can compare the memory usage with Task Manager.)

  • 0

Figured out the solution to the Reading Mode being stuck on... though at first it makes no sense at all.

How I got myself stuck in Reading Mode: View > Read Mode.

How I thought to get out of it: View > Edit document. But doing that will make all future documents open in Read Mode.

How you're supposed to get yourself back in Printing Mode: click the toolbar button at the bottom. Wait, what? :pinch:

... on the brighter side, in addition to the neat animations I also like how they lightened up the wording in the applications to appear more friendly to users.

Examples: in protected view, Word 2010 reads "This file originated from an Internet location and might be unsafe. Click for more details." In Word 2013 it reads "Be careful - files from the Internet can contain viruses. Unless you need to edit, it's safer to stay in Protected View."

Or the Ribbon button: "Show only the tab names on the Ribbon" versus "Feeling cluttered? Put the ribbon away so that only the tabs show."

Part of me thinks MIcrosoft is really trying to appear hip and trendy in this user-friendliness move, but either way it does seem nicer to see less 'boring' text :p

  • 0

I used it yesterday, it was only in Word where the whiteness was a bit too much in your face. Everything else was fine I found.

I do believe it needs a color wheel or something so I can pick my own background or, as Word is blue have a shade of blue around the document etc.

If it gets added excellent, if not I'd still use it :)

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • Microsoft released Windows 11 KB5094149 / KB5095971 / KB5094156 Setup, Recovery updates by Sayan Sen Earlier this week Microsoft released its newest Patch Tuesday updates (KB5094126 / KB5093998 on Windows 11 and KB5094127 on Windows 10). Alongside those, Microsoft also released new dynamic updates. These Dynamic Update packages are meant to be applied to existing Windows images prior to their deployment. Dynamic Updates also help preserve Language Pack (LP) and Features on Demand (FODs) content during the upgrade process. VBScript, for example, is currently an FOD on Windows 11 24H2. This time both recovery and setup updates were released for Windows 11 as well as Windows 10. The company writes: "KB5095185: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 11, version 26H1: June 9, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.28000.2269. KB5094149: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 11, versions 24H2 and 25H2: June 9, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.26100.8655 KB5095971: Setup Dynamic Update for Windows 11, version 23H2: June 9, 2026 This update makes improvements to Windows setup binaries or any files that setup uses for feature updates in Windows 11, version 23H2. KB5094156: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 11, version 23H2: June 9, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.22621.7219 KB5098815: Windows Recovery Environment update for Windows 10, version 21H2 and 22H2: June 9, 2026 This update automatically applies Safe OS Dynamic Update (KB5094154) to the Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) on a running PC. The update installs improvements to Windows recovery features. KB5094154: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 10, versions 21H2 and 22H2: June 9, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.19041.7417. KB5094153: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server 2019: June 9, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.17763.8880. KB5094152: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 10, version 1607 and Windows Server 2016: June 9, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.14393.9234." Microsoft notes that both the Recovery and Setup updates will be downloaded and installed automatically via the Windows Update channel.
    • Quantum Error Correction Validated in Nature: Microsoft and Quantinuum Log 800-Fold Improvement Two years after the original press-release announcement, independently peer-reviewed results published in Nature on June 10, 2026, have confirmed that Microsoft and Quantinuum achieved an 800-fold reduction in quantum error rates on real trapped-ion hardware — the largest gap between physical and logical error rates ever independently validated.    What Quantum Error Correction Actually Does — and Why Breaking Even Is Hard https://www.techtimes.com/articles/318329/20260613/quantum-error-correction-validated-nature-microsoft-quantinuum-log-800-fold-improvement.htm   Quantum Computing Wiring Bottleneck Cracked by HKU Silicon Carbide Chip at Qubit Temperature Engineers at the University of Hong Kong have built the first cryogenic control chip that operates at the same temperature as superconducting qubits — 10 millikelvin, or just one-hundredth of a degree above absolute zero — without generating the heat that has forced every competing approach to park its electronics hundreds of meters of cable away. https://www.techtimes.com/articles/318325/20260613/quantum-computing-wiring-bottleneck-cracked-hku-silicon-carbide-chip-qubit-temperature.htm  
    • RevPDF 4.5.0 by Razvan Serea RevPDF is a free, fully offline PDF editor for Windows, macOS, and Linux that lets you edit text and images directly inside PDF files — no internet connection, no account, and no cloud uploads required. Unlike bloated alternatives that demand subscriptions and constant connectivity, RevPDF fits in under 60MB on desktop while delivering a complete editing toolkit: annotate, redact, sign, compress, split, merge, convert, and reorganize pages, all processed locally on your device. Smart font matching ensures edited text blends seamlessly with the original, and multi-language support includes RTL scripts such as Arabic and Hebrew. Where most PDF editors force you to choose between features and simplicity, RevPDF manages both. You can build interactive forms from scratch with text fields, checkboxes, and dropdowns, permanently redact sensitive data before sharing, draw freehand on contracts and diagrams, and add custom watermarks — all without a single file leaving your machine. Edit Text and Images Directly Inside PDFs RevPDF supports true inline PDF editing — not just annotation layers on top of a document, but actual modification of existing text and images within the file. A smart font-matching engine identifies the font used in the original document and applies it automatically when you make edits, so changes blend naturally with the surrounding content. You can reposition elements, resize images, and update text across single pages or entire documents. RevPDF 4.5.0 release notes: This is one of the biggest updates to RevPDF yet. A lot of things people have been asking for are finally here. New Features Auto Redaction Permanently redact sensitive text and areas from your PDFs before sharing. Clean, irreversible, and fully offline. Comments, Links & Bookmarks Add comments for review, insert clickable links, and create bookmarks to jump around long documents without scrolling forever. Find & Replace Search across the whole document and replace text in one go. Long overdue. Split Pages Vertically or Horizontally Split any page down the middle, vertically or horizontally. Perfect for scanned books or double-page spreads. New Drawing Tools More tools for freehand drawing and markup, better for annotations, sketches, and detailed notes. Continuous Scrolling in Editor The editor now scrolls continuously through pages instead of jumping between them. Working through long documents is a lot smoother now. PDF Metadata Editor View and edit the metadata stored inside your PDFs, including title, author, subject, and keywords. Better Font Matching Text edits now blend in more naturally by doing a better job of matching the original font. Tabbed PDF Viewer Open multiple PDFs at once in tabs and switch between them without going back to the home screen. Add Links Insert hyperlinks anywhere in your PDF, to external URLs or to other pages within the document. Share & Print Shortcuts Share or print directly from the editing screen, home screen, and viewer. No extra steps. Minor Updates Paste images directly from clipboard into your PDF New image editing tools for more control over images inside documents Bug Fixes Fixed file saving issues on Windows and Linux Everything still works fully offline. No login, no cloud, no account. Your files stay on your device. Download: RevPDF 4.5.0 | 58.0 MB (Open Source) Links: RevPDF Home Page | Github | Screenshots 1 | 2 Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Interesting. I'm not using a VPN with my phone. I tried though my home internet (Rogers) and my cellular internet (Telus) using their respective DNS servers and both trigger the dialog above.
    • Three days after Anthropic launched Claude Fable 5 as the most capable AI model it had ever released to the public, the United States government ordered it switched off — and now the company is refunding customers who paid to use a product that vanished almost overnight https://www.techtimes.com/articles/318342/20260613/us-government-pulls-anthropics-fable-5-offline-now-come-refunds-vanished-ai.htm  
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      agatameier earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      agatameier earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      ssd21345 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Contributor
      MarkHughes4096 went up a rank
      Contributor
    • Dedicated
      jordanspringer earned a badge
      Dedicated
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      507
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      175
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      139
    4. 4
      ATLien_0
      91
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      76
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!