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Microsoft Security Essentials is your friend, my friend :)

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA

*breath*

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

I wouldn't let that security sieve anywhere near my PC!!

"I wouldn't let that security sieve anywhere near my PC!!"

So did you even look at the results of avast and mse? Wouldn't call it a sieve by any means.

And that is not the current version anyway, 4 is the current version not 2.1 - some test items mse surpasses avast. So again wouldn't call it a sieve.

then again it doesn't bug you every 2 minutes to upgrade to the pro version either or have ads in the UI.. Its not always about the score it gets detecting virus X, etc.

Wow...OK....

1] This is the first false positive I've had yet.

2] I don't see any ads in Avast and only saw an "Upgrade to Pro" offer the first time I installed it.

3] Whatever version MSE is on now it's consistently been at the bottom of tests so I'll still stick with Avast which is always near the top thanks.

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Pft, Avast, MSE, ...

I just use the 2012 edition of this one and it's served me extremely well at all times. When I am in doubt I deep scan my whole PC with NOD32 and it never found anything (but keygens/cracks) anyway.

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And that is not the current version anyway, 4 is the current version not 2.1 - some test items mse surpasses avast. So again wouldn't call it a sieve.

http://www.pcmag.com...,2403986,00.asp

Bottom Line

Microsoft Security Essentials 4.0 does a decent job protecting a clean PC, but in testing its cleanup of already-infested systems wasn't thorough. You can get better protection for the same price.

"Scanning my standard clean test system took 72 minutes, about twice the average. And despite these lengthy scans, the cleanup wasn't very thorough."

Same as previous versions then.

Bottom Line

If avast!'s very good malware cleanup doesn't recognize a suspicious file, its built-in automatic sandboxing can keep that file from doing harm. It's one of several good choices for free antivirus protection, with unusual bonus features like Web reputation reporting and built-in remote assistance.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401321,00.asp

http://www.pcmag.com...,2403986,00.asp

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Same as previous versions then.

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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401321,00.asp

If you are starting fom am already infested system, then you only option is a clean install anyway. MSE is good enough from prevention and has served me well so far. I prefer it to Avast's in your face SCANNING COMPLETE crap.

MSE does the job well enough, it's caught the one or two viruses in the rare iffy download, it minds its own business, never nags unless 100% necessary, it self updates daily, it's made by the people who make the OS, they know better than any third party where the holes are and how to protect them, and it's truly free

I personally use Avast and so far have recommemded it to my clients and family.

The only thing that bugs me is that you need to customize Avast's settings a lot, can't save them as a profile and many settings you want to apply to each scanner (what to do with positives or the likes and in which order) you have to manually set again, again and again for each scanner.

Avast is ridiculous to set up, speech by default is a horrible decisions and the pop up notifications for every poo it takes are a joke, BUT:

once set up, it's definitely a good AV!

Glassed Silver:ios

It's not like Avast has a reputationof at least twice having broken windows installs with their updates or anything...

Windows is pretty much just my gaming system, nothing productive.

I don't care about screwed Windows installs, although, never had one die on me over any AV.

Lucky me I guess! :p

Glassed Silver:mac

Oh btw, here are the ads I am talking about.. I fired it up on a vm to verify the threads you see about it.. Just google avast nag or avast ads.

So you don't see these?

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And they cycle through different ones

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So again to my point, read your own review you linked too - its not a sieve for damn sure. I am sure avast is fine as a free av, some people might even like all the noise with graphs of how many files it scanned, etc. But just because you like your product X, does not mean that product Y is not a valid choice.

MSE does the job well enough, it's caught the one or two viruses in the rare iffy download, it minds its own business, never nags unless 100% necessary, it self updates daily, it's made by the people who make the OS, they know better than any third party where the holes are and how to protect them, and it's truly free

Whilst I am a proponent of MSSE and use it myself, this argument is a little silly.

If Microsoft knew about all the issues out there, then they ought be fixed in the operating system. If they are aware of attack vectors, they should be fixed in the operating system. /shrug

I've just always found this argument a bit silly >.<

Lol Avassed more like it.

I see what you did there :p

On the 4 computers I use MSE on, I've never gotten a single virus, nor have I gotten any false positives. MSE 1, Avast 0 :) Your move.

I drank orange juice this morning. I don't have cancer. Thus orange juice prevents cancer..

I've only ever had 1 alert from Avast, since I've been using it, which is quite a while now.

My sister in law just had Avast say some installer was infected and kept popping up every 30 seconds or so, but NO other program found anything, anywhere. Did a repair of Avast and it quit doing that!

I do remember how Avast has screwed Windows installs up before, and am ALWAYS leary of any AV updates, no matter what company it's from!

"If they are aware of attack vectors, they should be fixed in the operating system. /shrug"

How do you fix user running malware code in the OS? Well you could run a application that warns the user that hey this is bad. And use a database of signatures and other methods of identifying such code.

If you just block the code outright in the OS - then you prob get sued by the malware makers. Hey we are not doing anything wrong - the user agreed to let us pop up ads for stuff they might want, and they agreed to let us email every contact they have about our code every 10 minutes, etc.

Isn't that exactly what mse does, so you are saying it should not be an sep download from MS, but just part of the OS install? Sure why not, that seems ok with me - as long as you can not install/feature that feature or role if you will.

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