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usually when upgrading from the same releases, DD-WRT->DD-WRT, Tomato->Tomato(here you might need to differentiate between builds) you generally don't need to wipe.

I used to do that and choose not to wipe but after a few builds I was getting major crashes so wiped and flashed that build again and everything was fine

So from then on I just backup > flash&wipe > restore

It only takes a few seconds extra and easier to troubleshoot knowing its a clean flash

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Just goto administration > backup and save the settings to a file, thats how I upgrade > wipe > restore and all my settings are exactly the same as they were before I wiped

Thanks for the tip. Still, unless I'm experiencing problems with a particular bug or need one of the new features I'm incline to just stick with my current setup which seems more-or-less rock solid to me.

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"Why would I swap them? Why would I run the gateway/router stairs when the mode is downstairs and more central in the hous"

You can not be that dense?? Really?? :blink:

Move the BOX that is v2 that can run your tomato firmware you so happy with to you NOC (kitchen).. And place the V1 that runs the dd-wrt that you despise :rolleyes: (but use anyway) where you currently have the AP.

But as I said in my other reply, my v2 with tomato, is my main router,in the Kitchen, the V1 with DD-WRT. acts as a upstairs network switch and AP. As for using DD-WRT despite despising is, as I said before, I had to before when I had to bridge the upstairs computer room with the downstairs network wirelessly., before I laid the cable, which I need to redo anyway since it's an old cable that's in worse shape than I thought and only does 100MBit, though I don't really need more, but it's effectively the backbone so...

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PNWDweller

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Signs you know your router is too old - no more new firmware for it. :) Just looked at the new DD-WRT FTP link you supplied, my model isn't listed (WRT54GL), so will stick with what I have now:

DD-WRT v24-sp2 (08/07/10) std

(SVN revision 14896)

It works fine for me and has no crashes or lockups which is what I am after. But I am a sucker for new goodies in firmware. (Just thought i'd peruse it to see what was new in there).

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Signs you know your router is too old - no more new firmware for it. :) Just looked at the new DD-WRT FTP link you supplied, my model isn't listed (WRT54GL), so will stick with what I have now:

DD-WRT v24-sp2 (08/07/10) std

(SVN revision 14896)

It works fine for me and has no crashes or lockups which is what I am after. But I am a sucker for new goodies in firmware. (Just thought i'd peruse it to see what was new in there).

Dude, a WRT-54G? Time for a new router.

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Signs you know your router is too old - no more new firmware for it. :) Just looked at the new DD-WRT FTP link you supplied, my model isn't listed (WRT54GL), so will stick with what I have now:

DD-WRT v24-sp2 (08/07/10) std

(SVN revision 14896)

It works fine for me and has no crashes or lockups which is what I am after. But I am a sucker for new goodies in firmware. (Just thought i'd peruse it to see what was new in there).

Following the recommended firmware links on this page, it looks like there is a newer build for your router

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Linksys_WRT54GL#Firmware

http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=52043

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WRT54's are rock solid though, and if you don't need more than G speeds they are some of the most optimized routers on tomato there is outperforming many of the newer "faster" routers for a lot of things.

but yeah, it's old and "slow" for network speeds. but on the other hand, they're rock solid and basically the foundation of custom firmware.

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did we have to break the topic into 3 parts? "dd-wrt" part one, "is the project dead?" as a tag part 2, and finally "it hasn't been updated in a couple years." as the contents (part 3)?

couldn't you of just said dd-wrt is this project dead? it hasn't been updated in a couple years"......

but no it's not dead, look at the nightly change logs..

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WRT54's are rock solid though, and if you don't need more than G speeds they are some of the most optimized routers on tomato there is outperforming many of the newer "faster" routers for a lot of things.

but yeah, it's old and "slow" for network speeds. but on the other hand, they're rock solid and basically the foundation of custom firmware.

I'm not sure if you're a Cisco / Linksys fan boy, but you're starting to become annoying with your BS.

Please show me where / how the older WRT54 models out perform newer routers? No gigabit ports, slower Wi-Fi speeds and a much slower / older processing chip and less memory. Not to mention some of the v1 - v2 models use to overheat.

You acknowledge "it's old and slow" but what other ways can you show me how they "outperform" newer routers. - Please teach me.

The only bonus from these routers were the custom firmwares running from Linux. These routers are way past their time.

The design and colours were great, back then, but even that was flawed with their crappy stacking and overheating ability.

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Did I mention anything about network speed or anything.

I have however used both WRT54's and other devices, and a WRT54 with tomato is extremely efficient at handling QoS traffic management, remember not EVERYTHING is about cpu speeds, and as I Said, these custom firmwares pretty much started with the WRT54, and they have been optimized a lot.

personally I wouldn't use a WRT54 today, as they don't offer the speeds I need, but as I specifically mentioned in my post, if you don't need anything faster it's a rock solid device with an extremely efficient firmware that's tried and tested more than any other.

speaking of people getting annoying, your inability to read posts and picking fights and trolling is really annoying. Now what are you even doing in a DD-WRT thread since you don't even use DD-WRT or devices that can run it.

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speaking of people getting annoying, your inability to read posts and picking fights and trolling is really annoying. Now what are you even doing in a DD-WRT thread since you don't even use DD-WRT or devices that can run it.

We finally got there. First it was grammar, now it's the troll. Congrats - as mentioned previously.

I came in this thread to express my opinion, that's what Internet forums are for. To which you replied with a false statement and I corrected you to which you oblivious couldn't take, being proved wrong.

"WRT54 with tomato is extremely efficient at handling QoS traffic management"

Again, please show me an example of how the QoS is more "extremely efficient" than a newer router running DD-WRT.

After all, you said it "outperforms newer routers".

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I have however used both WRT54's and other devices, and a WRT54 with tomato is extremely efficient at handling QoS traffic management, remember not EVERYTHING is about cpu speeds, and as I Said, these custom firmwares pretty much started with the WRT54, and they have been optimized a lot.

personally I wouldn't use a WRT54 today, as they don't offer the speeds I need, but as I specifically mentioned in my post, if you don't need anything faster it's a rock solid device with an extremely efficient firmware that's tried and tested more than any other.

If you had all that and 2 nickels, you'd have 10 cents.

Do 54Gs die? No, not really. But I see tons of them with little weird problems (such as one that would not display the totality of a website we were creating for a client) that are remedied as soon as its replaced. They are pushing 10 years old. Routers are cheap. No reason to hold onto legacy hardware because 'it started with them!'. Else I'd be sitting with a pile of punchcards next to me.

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If you had all that and 2 nickels, you'd have 10 cents.

Do 54Gs die? No, not really. But I see tons of them with little weird problems (such as one that would not display the totality of a website we were creating for a client) that are remedied as soon as its replaced. They are pushing 10 years old. Routers are cheap. No reason to hold onto legacy hardware because 'it started with them!'. Else I'd be sitting with a pile of punchcards next to me.

my only concern is IPV6 at the moment when my ISP plans to turn it on sometime this year. I support my whole extended family which is about 2 dozen different homes at least.

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Dude, a WRT-54G? Time for a new router.

Yeah - I KNOW! :) Gotta wait a bit before I go sink more $$$ in my PC budget. (for goodies like these). As soon as I can get on a newer router I surely will.

The router - I agree is old and rock solid at the same time too. For most applications, it works fine so hard to justify replacing sometimes. But, on the occasion, I do get the bug to want to upgrade the thing with more RAM so I can play a bit more with it. I tried the SD card mod but failed on that one after burning out a microsd with my amateur soldering skills. A skilled solder jockey would do it easily, but not me.

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I'm stil using a wrt54gs v1.1. It's been used since I got it in 2003-ish. It's been running stock Tomato 1.28 since the last release until I discovered the Tomato USB branch not too long ago.

There may not be a reason to stick with old hardware but there hasn't been a reason for me to need to get a new one either.

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my only concern is IPV6 at the moment when my ISP plans to turn it on sometime this year. I support my whole extended family which is about 2 dozen different homes at least.

Unless they also plan to kill ipv4 support at the same time, don't think your extended family will care or notice

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^ very true -- your everyday user has little use or care for ipv6. So what if their isp turns it on? Doesn't mean they have to use it.

Until such time that there are websites/services that they need to access that are ONLY available via ipv6, its not of any use to normal users. If I had to guess I would say you got a good 20 years before you have to worry about it for the every day user ;)

Now on the other hand, part of the reason I run a full blown distro for my router, is pfsense has great IPv6 support. I was running a tunnel from HE for quite some time without any issues at all. And now that my isp has finally turned on native support I have switched to that.

To be honest the tunnel was a bit easier to manage. But again for your every day user, it makes no difference if their isp turns on ipv6 or not. Most of them don't even know what an IP address is in the first place be it v4 or v6 ;)

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PGHammer

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my only concern is IPV6 at the moment when my ISP plans to turn it on sometime this year. I support my whole extended family which is about 2 dozen different homes at least.

Here's a surprise - I'd recommend Netgear's WNDR3700 (v2 and newer), including, if not especially, the newest (v4) despite the lack of non-factory firmware support.

First off, it actually supports IPv6 (though it is disabled by default) - if your ISP (via customer-premises equipment - supplied by them OR you) supports IPv6 (or you have a tunnel), this router can use it. Comcast supports IPv6 via 6to4 tunnel where 6RD is not present (this router's factory firmware doesn't support 6RD).

It supports mixed networks as well (my home LAN has two wired and two wireless PCs/devices, with one PC having two wired [one 100 mbps and one gigabit] and a wireless[wireless-G] connection, one PC a 100 mbps wired connection, a legacy laptop with wireless-G, and a smart TV/device with wireless-N - all except the TV are known to support IPv6; the TV DOES support 5 GHz N, which it occupies all by its lonesome).

However, if you feel better with third-party support, the v4 may well be too NEW for you.

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