Only three days left to protest UK porn filter

[Harrison H.]

WHAT! :o

Don't go acting all innocent Mr. Rappy! :shifty:

[Hum]

Dry hands & sheets :laugh:

[OOOOOOOO]

So I'm confused why people are against this? It's not a block on porn. It's a filter that can be turned off by adults. This is the equivalent of making porn films 18 rated so children can't buy them. But no one thinks that's wrong, or taking freedom away.

No one has any reason to say this is bad. Except the 14 year olds here on Neowin who know that their days of fapping to porn online are soon coming to an end ;)

[Growled Member]

The real problem is the age porn is restricted to. In the UK, we're allowed to have sex from the age of 16 but we can't watch porn until we're 18. Does anyone else see the ridiculousness in that? When we're 16, we can have sex, but we can't look down. . . .

Almost as ridiculous as being able to vote and fight for your country at 18 but not being able to drink legally until 21. I feel your pain.

[Pink Floyd Veteran]

This is something I would like to see here in Canada. With options of course. Many parents are such clueless with firewalls and apps that block porn. And when it's on the computer side (read software) it is so easy for the kid to kill the application and bypass the filters.

[Shadrack]

Parental controls shouldn't be at the ISP level, they need to be at the home internet router level. If there is any legislation at all I would say requiring router manufacturers and the routers that ISP provide have easy to use and access parental controls would be the way to go. Just like how it is for TV, the parental controls are on the set top box(es).

Routers could easily provide options to force OpenDNS usage and that provides a pretty damn good filter for pornographic material. I have my Linksys router running DD-WRT and for the device that the kids use in my home the router forces DNS lookup through OpenDNS. But this was a royal pain in the ass to setup, and I wouldn't expect a non-tech-savvy parent to figure that out. Are there ways around it? Sure. There are ways around everything.

As for the politics of it all and for parenting (and before you judge me for blocking my kids' access): if ever you are in the middle of a messy divorce you would understand. Allegations run wild in these things, and it is easier to say "The kids are blocked from porn through these measures".

[leesmithg]

I cannot understand why pr0n films are more than 2 minutes.

I am sure no-one watches the scenes, they see honey think about doing her, have a Tom-Tank, wipe themselves up,

turn over and sleep.

So 2 minute pr0n is the ticket.

[CPressland]

I hate that this is even being considered.

If it goes though I will donate 20% of my salay a month to setting up UK accessible proxy / VPN networks outside of the UK to get around this filtering.

[Orange Battery]

I don't think any of us would want children to grow up any faster than they have to now days - once your over a certain age then its your choice.

As long as its easy for the filter to be removed then Im happy, Id hate to see the day that you have to phone your ISP and ask but if you can switch these settings online via your ISP account then its probably worth it.

[exotoxic]

I don't think any of us would want children to grow up any faster than they have to now days - once your over a certain age then its your choice.

I think your missing the point. It is up to parents to decide what kids see on the internet not the government. The reason why parents support it is because they don't have to do anything.

There are already plenty of ways to restrict internet access but people don't use them because they are too stupid/lazy to set it up, that's why its opt out and not opt in, if it was opt in then only a small fraction would bother doing it.

[JaredFrost]

This is something I would like to see here in Canada. With options of course. Many parents are such clueless with firewalls and apps that block porn. And when it's on the computer side (read software) it is so easy for the kid to kill the application and bypass the filters.

The only problem is, we cannot trust the Government or ISPs with any of that, so the better option is to NOT include it and leave it to the parents, sorry, but pornography is a non-issue, everyone is naked under their clothes

Everyone will have sex, trying to shelter children from it only leads to other problems further down in life.

You wouldn't not teach children to read because they might read something YOU find offensive would you?

Opinions on the issue aside, we can probably agree trusting government or ISPs with filtering the internet is not a good idea.

[sagum]

MP's such as Clare Perry any any other body that suggests failed cenorship projects such as this should lose their job and never be allowed to work in any thing regarding IT again. Its going to hurt a lot of families who due to not being educated on the danagers of the internet and being able to protect their children, but instead just 'opt in' to this magical filter that'll protect them.

But what does it actually protect them from and what do parents expect it to protect them from? I'm willing to be that the vast majority will opt-in thinking it'll block any and all porn and stop any pedos talking to their kids on facebook...

The reality is, the kids will be given more freedom to do what they want online without their parents giving it a second thought, because they're protected by the IPS's magical internet filter backed by the government!

Kids are not stupid and if they have access to google, they can access ANY webpage they want, blocked by the ISP or not and its not even hard to do.

For example, a quick google for insite:thepiratebay.se torrent give me this line, via google cach give me this http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WDzgDe35yT0J:thepiratebay.se/torrent/6897833/Homeland_Season_1_Complete_720p

So I could just search the pirate bay with google cache. The same can be done for any porn I want to view, even with content filters enabled, and not even downloading porn videos or what ever from torrents..

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:M74Fx03qKZYJ:www.thehun.net/ the hun, and the same can be done for any webpage google caches and this is just google. There are 100s of sites that provide proxy services and caching for this sort of problem and we've not even got onto the problem of kids just calling up their ISP and requesting the filter to be turned off.

Its down right stupid. What parents do need is education to monitor their kids and teach their kids how to use the internet properly. So both the parent and child is brought up in a manner that is responsible for their own actions.

If we're going to block porn on the internet, how about we block music videos too. Some of them videos are border line porn anyway with the lack of cloths and what they're singing about.

[Axel]

Perhaps they'll just have to stick to a slow proxy and naughty pictures loading line by line like in the good old days!