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[firey]

I won't buy a WP device, Nokia or otherwise. Hate the interface, much prefer the desktop style of Android and the flexibility of it.

[+simrat]

I'll save money to buy Lumia 920, as we dont have contracts in India. That phone is masterpiece, just beautiful!

[~Johnny]

They're doing very cool work, it's nice to see some mechanical image stabilisation on a phone

[Orange Battery]

FMH, on 05 September 2012 - 18:43, said:

If you want option, we have Meego and Symbian operating systems (great, but highly under-rated)!

My Dad has the N8 and as nice as the phone is, Symbian lets it down as there is nowhere near the compatibility with main stream services and apps compared to my previous and older phone, the HTC Desire. Meego might have gone somewhere but again it doesn't have the commercial following and so unfortunately its doomed.

If Im spending money on my main mobile OS then the only real options I have is iOS, Windows Phone or Android - Im not a fan of iOS so its just WP or Android, Nokia only offers one so they have cut their market in half.

I will be the first in the queue if Nokia diversify but as nice as Windows Phone is, its not what I want in a mobile OS right now. All of this may change in the future, Windows Phone may turn out to be the best by version 9 or 10 but its the present moment that Nokia need to concentrate on.

[+ShMaunder]

OK/Yes/No

I think they did OK. But nothing was really shown of the OS. Also I feel the camera samples, based on the material from the presentation, was edited; the images just looked too good - will have to wait and see on this one. Will eat my own words if it turns out to be that good.

The best thing is the touch screen. I miss using my GT540 for the ability of being able to use my fingernail or pen on the touch screen (resistive). This is something I look forward to using on other devices soon (hopefully).

firey, on 05 September 2012 - 19:12, said:

I won't buy a WP device, Nokia or otherwise. Hate the interface, much prefer the desktop style of Android and the flexibility of it.

^ That's the reason I won't buy one. Plus Android is open source where I have the freedom to compile my own version.

[firey]

ShMaunder, on 05 September 2012 - 19:58, said:

That's the reason I won't buy one. Plus Android is open source where I have the freedom to compile my own version.

And just because a company doesn't release the OS for your phone, you can still download and install community made ones, be it stock style or MIUI, CM, whatever the case may be.

For example, I have the Atrix (original one) which came with 2.2.2 a 2.3.4 update was released by bell for it, and after that there was no updates (4.0.4 is rumored to be coming via moto). However I am currently running CM10 (4.1.1 Jelly Bean). Just because Moto never released it or will never release JB for my phone doesn't mean I can't run it.

I have seen some custom WP mods, but not to the extent of Android.

[+ShMaunder]

firey, on 05 September 2012 - 20:17, said:

For example, I have the Atrix (original one) which came with 2.2.2 a 2.3.4 update was released by bell for it, and after that there was no updates (4.0.4 is rumored to be coming via moto). However I am currently running CM10 (4.1.1 Jelly Bean). Just because Moto never released it or will never release JB for my phone doesn't mean I can't run it.

Exactly what I'll be doing soon on mine as well. I loved messing about with the GT540 - tried to compile a ROM myself as well but it didn't work out too well

It just seems that having a non open source operating system is so backwards now. Though some manufactures do take the biscuit with Android and their proprietary skins and locked down bootloaders (Motorola I'm looking at you).

Staying on topic: Nokia, release one of these puppies with Android.

[jakem1]

still1, on 05 September 2012 - 18:43, said:

Yeah iPhone is stagnating http://www.neowin.ne...the-us-for-july
and WP has gained tremendous market share /s

Market share is only one factor and the fact that iPhones sell well doesn't counter my argument. The fact is that the iPhone's UI is stale, hasn't kept up with the times and is increasingly reliant on ridiculous artifice to try and stay relevant. In terms of features, Apple are having to copy WP and to a lesser extent Android because they've run out of ideas. People may be buying iPhones but that has more to do with Apple's reputation than innovation. Stagnation perfectly describes what's happening to iOS.

tsupersonic, on 05 September 2012 - 18:46, said:

Meh, I have something to say about both of those things - but rather than feeding the troll, let's stay on topic, kthnx?

Your failure to counter my argument doesn't make me a troll

[tsupersonic]

jakem1, on 05 September 2012 - 20:54, said:

Your failure to counter my argument doesn't make me a troll

You must be new to the internet - there's something called don't feed the trolls

[HawkMan]

jakem1, on 05 September 2012 - 18:30, said:

What's there to keep up with? iOS is stagnating with a seriously outdated UI and a lack of interesting new features and Android can't even sort out the most fundamental problems such as ongoing performance issues and phones that never receive updates.

The bigger issue with android is stability. When I got a new android phone before summer while waiting for WP8 I though the old stability issues with my pre trophy androids where gone.

Lo and behold, twice over the summer my phone has locked up over night causing the alarm to not go off(old familiar problem that), several more times it's locked during use or while in pocket. And the soft buttons and non removable battery makes it hard to get out of. 3 or 4 major software revisions nd they still have the same old stability issues.

Wile my trophy was a crappy HTC qualit phone meaning it was prone to crashing and locking up. WP is at the very kernel level coded to detect lock ups and reboot the device. And putting ou right back where you where. so even though I had a phone that crashed due to crap hardware, it never mattered with WP.

This one thing is a show stopped for android with me and put me on the fast lane back to WP as soon as I can afford it. Had I known WP 8 devices would arrive as close as they are and not have to wait til late December, would have jus waited. But if I can't trust my phone, well, I just can't trust it. And no why would I buy a separate alarm clock when I have a phone the should do the job, and do it better with alarms set up for each day as don't get up the same time every day, and right now I even need two alarms a day.

[still1]

jakem1, on 05 September 2012 - 20:54, said:

Market share is only one factor and the fact that iPhones sell well doesn't counter my argument. The fact is that the iPhone's UI is stale, hasn't kept up with the times and is increasingly reliant on ridiculous artifice to try and stay relevant. In terms of features, Apple are having to copy WP and to a lesser extent Android because they've run out of ideas. People may be buying iPhones but that has more to do with Apple's reputation than innovation. Stagnation perfectly describes what's happening to iOS.

when wp sells better than Iphone or Android. i will believe it!!
All people has been saying right when wp got released is IT WILL sell better. haven't seen it yet.
and the same is being said when wp8 got announced.
its just your desire how it should sell not the fact.

prove to me that its selling better than iphone then I will believe.

stagnating with feature or not iphone will sell better.. that only mean iphone and Android is feature rich.. that means wp has been behind

[subcld]

great / yes / yes

[Mr Spoon]

I'm glad they got rid of that waste of space on the right hand side of the "home" screen.
I may consider WP8 now, although it'll be hard to beat the Android apps.

[FMH]

Mr Spoon, on 17 September 2012 - 17:02, said:

I'm glad they got rid of that waste of space on the right hand side of the "home" screen.
I may consider WP8 now, although it'll be hard to beat the Android apps.

If you tightly pack iOS and Android home screen, as much as they are in WP, you would have even greater empty space.