Noah's Ark 'found' ... again ?

[Hum]

A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers say wooden remains they have discovered on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey are the remains of Noah's Ark.

The group claims that carbon dating proves the relics are 4,800 years old, meaning they date to around the same time the ark was said to be afloat. Mt. Ararat has long been suspected as the final resting place of the craft by evangelicals and literalists hoping to validate biblical stories.

Yeung Wing-Cheung, from the Noah's Ark Ministries International research team that made the discovery, said: "It's not 100 percent that it is Noah's Ark, but we think it is 99.9 percent that this is it."

There have been several reported discoveries of the remains of Noah's Ark over the years, most notably a find by archaeologist Ron Wyatt in 1987. At the time, the Turkish government officially declared a national park around his find, a boat-shaped object stretched across the mountains of Ararat.

Nevertheless, the evangelical ministry remains convinced that the current find is in fact more likely to be the actual artifact, calling upon Dutch Ark researcher Gerrit Aalten to verify its legitimacy.

?The significance of this find is that for the first time in history the discovery of Noah?s Ark is well documented and revealed to the worldwide community,? Aalten said at a press conference announcing the find. Citing the many details that match historical accounts of the Ark, he believes it to be a legitimate archaeological discovery.

?There?s a tremendous amount of solid evidence that the structure found on Mount Ararat in Eastern Turkey is the legendary Ark of Noah,? said Aalten.

Representatives of Noah's Ark Ministries said the structure contained several compartments, some with wooden beams, that they believe were used to house animals.The group of evangelical archaeologists ruled out an established human settlement on the grounds none have ever been found above 11,000 feet in the vicinity, Yeung said.

During the press conference, team member Panda Lee described visiting the site. ?In October 2008, I climbed the mountain with the Turkish team. At an elevation of more than 4,000 meters, I saw a structure built with plank-like timber. Each plank was about 8 inches wide. I could see tenons, proof of ancient construction predating the use of metal nails."

We walked about 100 meters to another site. I could see broken wood fragments embedded in a glacier, and some 20 meters long. I surveyed the landscape and found that the wooden structure was permanently covered by ice and volcanic rocks."

Local Turkish officials will ask the central government in Ankara to apply for UNESCO World Heritage status so the site can be protected while a major archaeological dig is conducted.

The biblical story says that God decided to flood the Earth after seeing how corrupt it was. He then told Noah to build an ark and fill it with two of every animal species.

After the flood waters receded, the Bible says, the ark came to rest on a mountain. Many believe that Mount Ararat, the highest point in the region, is where the ark and her inhabitants ran aground.

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[ahhell]

"We're super duper sure this time...maybe."

:rolleyes:

[Shadrack]

Its funny how many times this claim comes up without any photos.

[TPreston]

The group claims that carbon dating proves the relics are 4,800 years old

Wait just one second... I thought carbon dating didn't work ?

[Mohitster]

Dude the source article is more than two years old?! :angry:

[DrakeN2k]

How can 2 of every animal in the world fit into a boat , the boat would need to he massive. Also would result in very very small gene pool

[TPreston]

How can 2 of every animal in the world fit into a boat , the boat would need to he massive. Also would result in very very small gene pool

Well yeah theres that and the fact that this was all one big hoax

After examining photographs taken by Wing-Cheung?s team on Mount Ararat, Cornuke was not convinced that the wood remnants were from Noah?s Ark. He said one of the pictures shows cobwebs, which would not exist at 14,000 feet. He also said the floor in one of the pictures shows concrete between stones, which wouldn?t be found, he said, in Noah?s time.

But his smoking gun was that he claims to have informants in Turkey who say that for two years people have been carrying old wood up the mountain. The wood was then built into a structure resembling an ark. ?We even have evidence of trucks coming in with wood,? Cornuke told me.

http://www.examiner.com/article/looks-like-noah-s-ark-smells-like-a-hoax

[Rappy Veteran]

how many arks was there?

[Noir Angel]

By modern standards Noah's ark was about the size of a small car ferry. And unless it was a tardis, or the proportions mentioned in the bible are MASSIVE underestimations, it simply couldn't have carried enough of every animal and enough food and water to sustain them for 40 days. People can keep claiming that they've found it but it doesn't make the story any less logistically stupid.

Apparently finding the remains of any ship that old automatically makes it Noah's ark. The very definition of clutching at straws.

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

For a ship that held 2 of each animal with enough capcity to hold food as well, it's really hard to find. Unless... it doesn't exist?

[benplace]

[ACTIONpack]

Wait just one second... I thought carbon dating didn't work ?

Only work if it point to their belief!

[Growled Member]

I'm really tired of them finding it.

[Psyco359]

How can 2 of every animal in the world fit into a boat , the boat would need to he massive. Also would result in very very small gene pool

We're gonna need a bigger boat!

[Guest LiquidCrystalMeth]

Tinfoil hat time again

Honestly, why do people keep posting this nutty literalist garbage.

Anyways, the bible is the biggest tome of fiction in human history, deal with it.

It was created to control and subjugate humanity for the benefit of the "chosen few", and it seems to have done this job well, particularly in America.

I particularly love these stories where they cite "ark experts" from different countries, depending on the iteration of this garbage.

How can one be an expert in something that is unproven and pure fiction.

Seriously over the nutty christian bs generally posted on neowin, and especially at election time

[Skin]

Tinfoil hat time again

Honestly, why do people keep posting this nutty literalist garbage.

Anyways, the bible is the biggest tome of fiction in human history, deal with it.

It was created to control and subjugate humanity for the benefit of the "chosen few", and it seems to have done this job well, particularly in America.

I particularly love these stories where they cite "ark experts" from different countries, depending on the iteration of this garbage.

How can one be an expert in something that is unproven and pure fiction.

Seriously over the nutty christian bs generally posted on neowin, and especially at election time

I suppose the main crux of it lies in the fact that people find it their life mission to try and disprove something that they themselves were not privy to, nor are even 'sure' did, or did not, occur.

"How can one be an expert in something that is unproven and pure fiction"??

Ask atheists, or evolutionists, or the majority of folks that believe strongly in truly unproven hypotheses. 'Ark experts' may be a good stretch when the only mention is in obscure texts from the time, and an account of the dimensions, but then again, even that is more to go on then connecting the dots on a lot of the beliefs that folks have simply because they wish it to be true, simply because their minds have settled on it, in order to give their lives meaning and to fend off the onslaught of darkness and nothingness that lays in wait outside of the self-constructed norm on which they cling. Even science would be forced to acknowledge that anything is possible until proven right nor wrong - that is true wide-eyed wonder and scientific approach. Anything other than that is coming from a bias and a self-appointed place of 'knowledge', which is of course, against science itself.

So what if 'nutty christian bs' is posted anywhere? Why does that offend your self-imposed sense of reality and logic so much? Do you think that what you 'know' is so right that it gives you the right to call it 'fiction' and 'nutty'? If so, how is that any different than how the people who do believe in it carry themselves and express their belief?

[Guest LiquidCrystalMeth]

I suppose the main crux of it lies in the fact that people find it their life mission to try and disprove something that they themselves were not privy to, nor are even 'sure' did, or did not, occur.

"How can one be an expert in something that is unproven and pure fiction"??

Ask atheists, or evolutionists, or the majority of folks that believe strongly in truly unproven hypotheses. 'Ark experts' may be a good stretch when the only mention is in obscure texts from the time, and an account of the dimensions, but then again, even that is more to go on then connecting the dots on a lot of the beliefs that folks have simply because they wish it to be true, simply because their minds have settled on it, in order to give their lives meaning and to fend off the onslaught of darkness and nothingness that lays in wait outside of the self-constructed norm on which they cling. Even science would be forced to acknowledge that anything is possible until proven right nor wrong - that is true wide-eyed wonder and scientific approach. Anything other than that is coming from a bias and a self-appointed place of 'knowledge', which is of course, against science itself.

So what if 'nutty christian bs' is posted anywhere? Why does that offend your self-imposed sense of reality and logic so much? Do you think that what you 'know' is so right that it gives you the right to call it 'fiction' and 'nutty'? If so, how is that any different than how the people who do believe in it carry themselves and express their belief?

I dunno, i just like to apply rationality into my every day life.......

And i do find the nutty christian bs offensive as it expresses a belief that has no basis and its purpose is to indoctrinate.

I dont post pro-atheist stories on neowin, and im not trying to force my beliefs on others, but i will reply to christian bs stories and apply rationailty

[Raa]

Article is over 2 years old, AND at the top it says: UPDATE: Experts Suspect Ark Is a Hoax

[TheICBM]

Not quite the Ark I was hoping for :/

[remixedcat]

I found a old looking peice of wood in a nursing home it could be from the ark... I think

[Guest LiquidCrystalMeth]

I once wrapped a dead possum in a sheet before i buried it, and only later noticed how the sheet had an exact image of the possum, though oddly it was a negative image. Im thinking of starting a cult based on this, and other tenuous "proof" though.

Im currently watching the classic (and bad, though funny/good bad) movie, Biggles: Adventures In Time, and its closer to reality than this crap.

[remixedcat]

eeeeeepy! that's creepy!

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Oh man, not this crap again! Sheesh, they need to give it up already!

[FiB3R]

Stopped reading at "evangelical"

[remixedcat]

Oh man, not this crap again! Sheesh, they need to give it up already!

you know how really old guys are with thier wood.... LOL