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I plan on buying a 7 inch tablet this month. But I'm unsure about which 7-incher too choose.

My needs are only for content consumption, and I mostly use browser for that. Fire HD 7 seems to have a better battery life (over 11 hrs is stated), whereas Nexus 7 seems to have a better operating system experience (pure Android).

Or would you recommend any other tablet, such as Nook Color, Samsung Tab?

And also, low price isn't a priority for me.

Thanks.

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Both of them are pure android, ainol didn't change anything except some closed source drivers :p My bad thought you meant Ainol Fire instead of Kindle Fire >.>

But I would go for the nexus 7, just because there is more development for it ^^

Both of them are pure android

not last I remember, the kindle Fire has a locked down version of Android with a custom skin, and only access to Amazon's app store, and I'm pretty sure it's no different with the new Fire HD

but yeah, I would go with the Nexus 7, if you want to improve the battery life on it a GREAT amount install the AOKP rom, I have that on mine and it runs amazingly

I would wait to see if it's true Apple will announce the iPad Mini

Yes its about a month away. For content consumption the iPad would be easily the best choice. So its worth holding off for just a few more weeks to see what they have to offer?

not last I remember, the kindle Fire has a locked down version of Android with a custom skin, and only access to Amazon's app store, and I'm pretty sure it's no different with the new Fire HD

but yeah, I would go with the Nexus 7, if you want to improve the battery life on it a GREAT amount install the AOKP rom, I have that on mine and it runs amazingly

My bad thought he meant Ainol Fire instead of Kindle Fire >.>

I would wait to see if it's true Apple will announce the iPad Mini

Not everyone has bought into Apple's closed ecosystem so to many of us nothing Apple releases matters

As for the question the OP asked, I'm still leaning towards the Nexus 7, just seems to be an all around better product that will get updates faster than Amazon's product, heck some apps in the Amazon App store are 2-3 versions behind the Play Store versions, it's frustrating the hell out of me I'm about to root and throw JB on my Fire

My bad thought he meant Ainol Fire instead of Kindle Fire >.>

ah, I was wondering what you were talking about when you mentioned Ainol, I had never heard of that tablet company before

but yeah, i'm pretty sure the OP is talking about the Kindle Fire HD not the Ainol Fire

ah, I was wondering what you were talking about when you mentioned Ainol, I had never heard of that tablet company before

but yeah, i'm pretty sure the OP is talking about the Kindle Fire HD not the Ainol Fire

Yeah, that's right. I was talking about Kindle. Haven't even heard of the other company.

So there is consensus on Nexus 7. I'm buying it. iPad seems a bit far off (October/November).

And Android's flexibility would suit me better.

Thanks guys.

It's only worth getting the Kindle Fire HD if it's lots cheaper than the Nexus 7 or you need the additional storage it gives you. How much media do you want to be able to carry?

The OMAP4460 is the same CPU used in the Galaxy Nexus. It's by no means sluggish but the Snapdragon S4 and Tegra 3 of the GN are more powerful). Although in reality if you only use the device for media consumption it shouldn't matter a great deal.

Edit: The fire has a 4470 which is actually significantly faster than the 4460, and has dual channel memory support which the T3 lacks. The 4470 should be a match for the Tegra 3

The OMAP4460 is the same CPU used in the Galaxy Nexus. It's by no means sluggish but the Snapdragon S4 and Tegra 3 of the GN are more powerful). Although in reality if you only use the device for media consumption it shouldn't matter a great deal.

Edit: The fire has a 4470 which is actually significantly faster than the 4460, and has dual channel memory support which the T3 lacks. The 4470 should be a match for the Tegra 3

Okay. Thanks.

Not everyone has bought into Apple's closed ecosystem so to many of us nothing Apple releases matters

Not sure why the defensive attitude. The OP never stated that he does not want us to recommend an Apple product. Surely, unless the OP states it, you cant speak for him, right?

I've got the N7 and it's blazingly fast. As others have mentioned without rooting then you are stuck with a rather cut down and tailored version of Android on the Kindle Fire. Storage issues can be solved by rooting and installing stickmount allowing the N7 to read from USB sticks.

Definitely Kindle HD. The specs and screen are brilliant. You can always root and install a custom rom on Kindle HD. I'm sure the device will be quite popular and will be picked by many devs.

Nope - the Nexus 7 will definitely have a better dev. community than any Kindle device simply because it is priced competitively, has great specs, and is the pure Android experience.

Unless you are a Prime member, then I see no reason to even consider a Kindle or Nook. The Nexus 7 is the "goto" tablet for Android. You'd be crazy for considering something else (at least in the realm of Android devices).

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