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[color=#000000]This fall, Microsoft is embarking on one of its biggest series of launches ever, with new versions or updates of nearly all its products and services, from Windows to Windows Phone, Office to Windows Server.[/color]

[color=#000000]On top of that, the company is debuting its first branded computing devices: the Surface tablets.
Microsoft Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer, who has called this year "the most epic year in Microsoft history," sat down for an interview with The Seattle Times last week to talk about the new products and services, the state of the company and the future.
Here is the interview, edited for length:[/color]

[color=#000000]Q: You've talked about this year being the most epic. Is there another year in Microsoft's history you could compare this to? Maybe the launch of Windows 95?
A: You know, Windows 95 was certainly the biggest thing in the last 20 years until now. I think Windows 8 certainly surpasses it. It's a little hard to compare things like the founding (of the company) and the introduction of the first popular PC and the system that popularized it, but it's at that scale.[/color]

[color=#000000]Q: Almost every major product and service is launching a new version or an update this year. Is that by design or coincidence?
A: I would say by deliberate coincidence. We didn't say everybody's got to ship at exactly the same time. We said: "Here are some principles."
We're trying to really re-imagine the world from the ground up with Windows 8. ... And then people orient their development schedules around Windows 8 and its new properties and attributes.[/color]

[color=#000000]Q: What is Microsoft's plan if Windows 8 doesn't take off?
A: You know, Windows 8 is going to do great.[/color]

[color=#000000]Q: No doubt at all?
A: I'm not paid to have doubts. (Laughs.) I don't have any. It's a fantastic product. ...
People talk about: "How healthy is the PC market?" There's going to be close to 400 million PCs sold in the next year, which makes it a big market. And whether it's 405 (million) or 395 (million), it's a big market, and Windows 8 will propel that volume.
It also brings us into this world of much more mobile computing and more mobile form factors. I think it's going to be hard to tell what's a tablet and what is a PC.[/color]

[color=#000000]Q: Microsoft has had successes with Xbox and Kinect and failures with Kin and the aQuantive acquisition. Do you see common patterns among those successes and those failures? What have you learned from them?
A: I think if you look at the pattern of success, it usually is a powerful, innovative idea formed and driven by a powerful sort of team with great innovators and great executors ... followed up by an incredible kind of
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Soft questions, where was the one that said "Hey Steve, theres been a lot of opposition to the Modern interface? How do you answer the critics, and whens the service pack to turn it off coming?"
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[quote name='LiquidCrystalMeth' timestamp='1347776978' post='595179729']
[b]Soft questions, where was the one that said "Hey Steve, there's been a lot of praise for the Modern interface. How do you answer the proponents, and when's the service pack to push us even further into a new era of computing coming?"[/b]
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There. Now, we have a little from column A and a little from column B. ;)
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nice read! thanks

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This man is going to be the end of Microsoft.. just watch. He is a total ape who doesn't have 3 brain cells and even less of a vision and it's so ironic that he says "it's not about yelling".. rich, coming from a guy who spent most of his life yelling, screaming, jumping and throwing chairs like an idiot.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
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I'm surprised that he said Windows 8 is as big as Windows 95 in what it will result in for the company and computing because that is just completely false and if he truly believes that his a bigger idiot than I ever thought possible.

Windows 8 in public opinion is going to be another Vista and they will be quick to reiterate on it with Windows 9 fixing many of the complaints like they did with Windows 7.

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[quote name='Vice' timestamp='1347806881' post='595180237']
Windows 8 in public opinion is going to be another Vista and they will be quick to reiterate on it with Windows 9 fixing many of the complaints like they did with Windows 7.
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Once you get past the idiot fanboys on YouTube, public opinion levels off. Windows 8 is a change, but you can't let people's fear of change interfere with moving the platform forward.
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I don't see what all the extreme hate was for metro, however I don't see how people are so crazy about using it on a desktop PC. It's kinda neat for the first couple hours, however I think it was clearly meant to be loved on a tablet. That's my final conclusion at a more final stage in the OS's development. (I have tried the DP and CP windows 8 and this is the first time testing server 2012)

I would love to test on a tablet and it would prolly be lots more fun.

I am on the middle about it. I'm also sure it would be great on an HTPC, however the media apps suck at this point and that's a huge dissapointment becuase I thought it was designed for that as well... that seems to be neglected in favor of people just using streaming services over 4G or wifi on a tablet and not a standard local or LAN media playback. I was hoping for some really nice HTPC media apps for metro that would make it easy to use from the couch that would be better then WMCE. I wonder if J-River has thought of a metro version....

The start screen metro app selection really does suck at this point and this is disappointing because they had the developer preview what...almost a year ago??? yah think they would have way more apps by now and even some that would be better then android because of the increased screen space and information density as a result...

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[quote name='Dot Matrix' timestamp='1347807653' post='595180259']
Once you get past the idiot fanboys on YouTube, public opinion levels off. Windows 8 is a change, but you can't let people's fear of change interfere with moving the platform forward.
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This, I use metro on my server & clients and its far better than the start menu ever was.

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[quote name='Dot Matrix' timestamp='1347807653' post='595180259']
Once you get past the idiot fanboys on YouTube, public opinion levels off. Windows 8 is a change, but you can't let people's fear of change interfere with moving the platform forward.
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Obama was a change too but a lot of people aren't happy with him. Just because it's a change doesn't make it good change. The whole reason Windows 8 exists in its current form is to take on the iPad, the problem is though they decided to take that same tablet centric interface and put it on normal computers and that is where the backlash is going to be once they ship this. No matter how good it may be on tablets it is the desktops and notebooks where the public opinion is going to be against Windows 8.

The blind Microsoft lovers on this forum are not representative of normal people who have learned how to use normal Windows and will get frustrated with the inconsistencies presented by Windows 8 and it is for that reason I believe Steve Ballmer just doesn't get it and should be ousted, really.

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[quote name='LiquidCrystalMeth' timestamp='1347790362' post='595179883']
No what we have there is you misrepresenting what i said by editing my post.....

Be a fanboy if you want, but dont edit my words, thank you
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No. I'm not misrepresenting what YOU said. I'm using your words to represent another side of the argument. You feel one way and others feel another. What you said reflects only one way of thinking. It was just a jab at a unilateral thought process and an attempt to show both sides. If you can't take a little internet ribbing, you may be in the wrong place. Lighten up, my friend.

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[quote name='Vice' timestamp='1347808119' post='595180271']
Obama was a change too but a lot of people aren't happy with him. Just because it's a change doesn't make it good change. The whole reason Windows 8 exists in its current form is to take on the iPad, the problem is though they decided to take that same tablet centric interface and put it on normal computers and that is where the backlash is going to be once they ship this. No matter how good it may be on tablets it is the desktops and notebooks where the public opinion is going to be against Windows 8.

The blind Microsoft lovers on this forum are not representative of normal people who have learned how to use normal Windows and will get frustrated with the inconsistencies presented by Windows 8 and it is for that reason I believe Steve Ballmer just doesn't get it and should be ousted, really.
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It's been said before, don't use the Metro apps. I grew up with "normal" Windows (Whatever the frak that is), and I welcome this change. It's needed. Even on "desktop" PC's.

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[quote name='Dot Matrix' timestamp='1347808361' post='595180277']
It's been said before, don't use the Metro apps. I grew up with "normal" Windows (Whatever the frak that is), and I welcome this change. It's needed. Even on "desktop" PC's.
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It is too inconsistent to include it on desktops. The problem is not me, the problem is the average people who can barely understand how to use one system (the desktop) to its full potential, now they need to learn the desktop and metro. Even Microsoft understands this problem which is why with the ARM version of Windows 8 they are not allowing you to use the desktop for installing new applications only for using Microsoft Office. But they can't do that on x86 processors because of the huge mountain of existing 3rd party software.

So what is the result for us? Two interfaces that feel disconnected, you can have Applications running in Metro and Applications running on the desktop and there is no real easy way to switch directly between them. If you're on the desktop your apps running in Metro (lets say you have 4 apps running) do not show on the task bar. If you are in Metro and you're inside an application similarly your running apps from the Desktop are no where to be found. This makes the two interfaces feel at war with one another. The average people using this OS are going to have a big problem with this. You must be able to see this issue coming, it's so obvious.
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[quote name='LiquidCrystalMeth' timestamp='1347776978' post='595179729']
Soft questions, where was the one that said "Hey Steve, theres been a lot of opposition to the Modern interface? How do you answer the critics, and whens the service pack to turn it off coming?"
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a service pack won't shut craptro off but im sure there will be alot of hacks out there to remove as much of it as we can. i think it's funny he seems to not even mention the huge sucess of windows 7. if anything id like to see a second service pack for that.

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[quote name='Vice' timestamp='1347808611' post='595180285']
The problem is not me, the problem is the average people who can barely understand how to use one system (the desktop) to its full potential, now they need to learn the desktop and metro.
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Wait, what? Do you realize what you are saying? Metro is a simple paradigm to use, it's perfect for these people.

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[quote name='Dot Matrix' timestamp='1347809186' post='595180305']
Wait, what? Do you realize what you are saying? Metro is a simple paradigm to use, it's perfect for these people.
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I really do not think they will embrace it as it's just too poorly executed. Also no thoughts on the rest of the stuff I said? The issue with not being able to see your running apps from the desktop whilst in a metro application and vice versa? - That is a big problem that goes unsolved today.

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[quote name='Vice' timestamp='1347809391' post='595180311']
The issue with not being able to see your running apps from the desktop whilst in a metro application and vice versa? - That is a big problem that goes unsolved today.
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You mean ALT-TAB?

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[quote name='Dot Matrix' timestamp='1347809592' post='595180325']
You mean ALT-TAB?
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No I don't mean Alt+Tab. That is something normal people don't use or even are aware of. They use the task bar, they use a mouse. They need to see things visually and for it to always be on the screen so they always know where something is. Having to use Alt+Tab when before that was an optional way of switching between apps is just another sign that Windows 8 is not finished.

What could be simpler than having the applications visible on the task bar at all times?

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[quote name='Vice' timestamp='1347809922' post='595180335']
No I don't mean Alt+Tab. That is something normal people don't use or even are aware of. They use the task bar, they use a mouse. They need to see things visually and for it to always be on the screen so they always know where something is. Having to use Alt+Tab when before that was an optional way of switching between apps is just another sign that Windows 8 is not finished.

What could be simpler than having the applications visible on the task bar at all times?
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Then in that case, there is a hot corner to use. Like that's soooo hard to do. You give people less credit than they deserve. My friends have no issues and don't need their hands held like you claim, and I don't see anyone at school who fumbles around their screens either.

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Steve Ballmer, what a stage monkey! Blah blah blah, more vague and not to the point answers...

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[quote name='Dot Matrix' timestamp='1347810293' post='595180345']
Then in that case, there is a hot corner to use. Like that's soooo hard to do. You give people less credit than they deserve. My friends have no issues and don't need their hands held like you claim, and I don't see anyone at school who fumbles around their screens either.
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Well lets just see once it comes out. Windows Vista still had a start menu and everything still mainly worked the same and people hated it with a passion. So lets just see what happens with Windows 8 shall we :)

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[quote name='Vice' timestamp='1347810661' post='595180361']
Well lets just see once it comes out. Windows Vista still had a start menu and everything still mainly worked the same and people hated it with a passion. So lets just see what happens with Windows 8 shall we :)
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for me i would sure would be P!ss'ed off , if they listened to those reactionaries and remove the SS by the next Windows

yea sure it could use more tweaking and that is about it

MS Windows 8 <=> MS Metro 1.0

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The Start Screen isn't going anywhere. The Start Menu is dead. Once it was removed, there is now way it will be coming back.

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[quote name='Dot Matrix' timestamp='1347821654' post='595180747']
The Start Screen isn't going anywhere. The Start Menu is dead. Once it was removed, there is now way it will be coming back.
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Thank god.
When i have to use my backup Win 7 machine for whatever reason, it feels like i'm going back 10 years to a clunky version of Windows.
Long live 8, Metro and the more efficient start screen!
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