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[+techbeck]

threetonesun, on 08 October 2012 - 18:50, said:

Except the phone is thinner. It's a compromise issue, most likely the thinner phone required a thinner lens (or there's less case covering the lens, which was more prone to flare.

The quality issue is really with the photographers, though.

Bad r&d and qc then. There are other devices just as thin and don't have this issue. Apples camera has always been rated great and better than most of the competition. They have really been dropping the ball.

[threetonesun]

techbeck, on 08 October 2012 - 18:55, said:

Bad r&d and qc then. There are other devices just as thin and don't have this issue. Apples camera has always been rated great and better than most of the competition. They have really been dropping the ball.

Who? I want measurements of the phone casing, the camera lens size, and the distance from the outside of the case to the lens element for all of them.

Or, you know, we can just agree that this effect has been known about for, I dunno, 500 years or so, and that taking pictures of the SUN is stupid.

[javagreen]

threetonesun, on 08 October 2012 - 18:50, said:

The quality issue is really with the photographers, though.

Is any further proof necessary about the existence of an Apple Cult?

This, and comparing a NASA space cam to the iPhone's cam... pure gold

[threetonesun]

javagreen, on 08 October 2012 - 19:00, said:

Is any further proof necessary about the existence of an Apple Cult?

This, and comparing a NASA space cam to the iPhone's cam... pure gold

Last time I checked, I took pictures with a Nikon with a lens hood.

[javagreen]

threetonesun, on 08 October 2012 - 19:04, said:

Last time I checked, I took pictures with a Nikon with a lens hood.

You can have exactly zero Apple gear and still be a devout

On the flip side, you can have a ton of Apple gear and still be a rational fan. It's a rare breed though

[+techbeck]

threetonesun, on 08 October 2012 - 18:59, said:

Who? I want measurements of the phone casing, the camera lens size, and the distance from the outside of the case to the lens element for all of them.

Or, you know, we can just agree that this effect has been known about for, I dunno, 500 years or so, and that taking pictures of the SUN is stupid.

Typing from my phone so not going to look up any info now. I will on my laptop later if I remember. Just at work on break atm. I do remember reading that they were not the thinnest.. Unless I misread

[einsteinbqat]

javagreen, on 08 October 2012 - 16:10, said:

Your comparison is Bullshiz, that's the point ya git.

Why stop there, go find pics of the Hubble space camera to compare it to the iPhone 5 because you bloody damn well can!

You're too much fun.

You are just talking rubbish. You go learn the physics of lenses. Lenses are lenses, and they may create flares no matter their size, focal point, coating, material composition, price point or whatever. If you still fail to understand this, well I am surely not going to explain that to you any further.

[threetonesun]

techbeck, on 08 October 2012 - 19:10, said:

Typing from my phone so not going to look up any info now. I will on my laptop later if I remember. Just at work on break atm. I do remember reading that they were not the thinnest.. Unless I misread

It's possible it isn't, my larger point was that the outside of the lens might be too close to the outside of the case, which could depend on the lens size, the component layout, etc. Based on my iPhone 4 (oh noes, I do have Apple products!), I can imagine that if the camera was in the same place but the case lost a few mms, it would have less covering the lens element.

[Growled]

littleneutrino, on 08 October 2012 - 17:56, said:

My Galaxy S 3 (which according to a bias Jury is a clone of an iPhone) does not do that either.

You must be holding it wrong.

[+techbeck]

threetonesun, on 08 October 2012 - 23:30, said:

I can imagine that if the camera was in the same place but the case lost a few mms, it would have less covering the lens element.

If that was the case, its a design flaw and they should of kept the phone the same size as the 4s.

[Shane Nokes]

Why are people arguing about whether or not flare happens.

Of course it happens. The issue isnt that flare occurs...it is that the flare is purple. Something is causing an unnatural tint.

[Dot Matrix]

I have not been able to re-create the purple flare at all with my Titan II.

[einsteinbqat]

Shane Nokes, on 08 October 2012 - 23:58, said:

Why are people arguing about whether or not flare happens.

Of course it happens. The issue isnt that flare occurs...it is that the flare is purple. Something is causing an unnatural tint.

Flares can be many colours.

[threetonesun]

techbeck, on 08 October 2012 - 23:36, said:

If that was the case, its a design flaw and they should of kept the phone the same size as the 4s.

So people should have a thicker phone so other people can take pictures of DIRECT SUNLIGHT?

Brilliant!

[Shane Nokes]

einsteinbqat, on 09 October 2012 - 01:38, said:

Flares can be many colours.

Yes they can, but they should not come out like this. Over the years I've owned many cameras, some great and some cheap. I've never see this level of unnatural hue in photos.

This is pretty bad. I'd rank the issue on par with the brief time I owned a Droid R2D2 model. It kept restarting and playing the R2D2 sounds multiple times a day. There was no way to silence it since it was part of the boot process.

This is about as bad since it causes issues with photos and a lot of people these days use their phones as their primary P&S device.

Apple doesn't want to admit they screwed up...just like they didn't want to admit it with the iPhone 4 antenna either.