Apple explains purple flare issue affecting camera on iPhone 5 and other ph

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Elliott

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While I've never experienced this problem on any of my iPhones up to & including the 4S or any of my android phones, it seems odd to me that every time apple have a problem with their devices, their response is often, "all phones do it, so shut up"

And I've never had it happen on my iPhone 5, so I guess it never happens. Glad we got that one sorted out!

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einsteinbqat

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Are you seriously comparing a NASA camera, which probably has a massive lens aperture and sensor to accomodate a far wider scope, to the iPhone? And justifying the purple effect on the iPhone? This NASA camera can probably still capture the sun in the other hemisphere while it's setting in one. Jesus probably used the iPhone 5 to capture the Big Bang?

Funny, the only likes you've got on your post are from the well known iToots, who'll toot their horn no matter what.

I bloody damn well am! Flares can happen with any camera. So what's your point?

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javagreen

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I bloody damn well am! Flares can happen with any camera. So what's your point?

Your comparison is Bullshiz, that's the point ya git.

Why stop there, go find pics of the Hubble space camera to compare it to the iPhone 5 because you bloody damn well can!

You're too much fun.

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Are you seriously comparing a NASA camera, which probably has a massive lens aperture and sensor to accomodate a far wider scope, to the iPhone?

Yes, these are camera words. No, I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. :geek:

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It's still a completely invalid comparison

Why. Please tell me what kind of camera that NASA picture was taken with, because a lot of them are taken with small sensor web cams.

This isn't magic, light goes into a little hole, and a sensor picks it up. Depending on the light source, angle, and the depth of the lens, flare can happen, the camera is irrelevant.

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javagreen

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Why. Please tell me what kind of camera that NASA picture was taken with, because a lot of them are taken with small sensor web cams.

This isn't magic, light goes into a little hole, and a sensor picks it up. Depending on the light source, angle, and the depth of the lens, flare can happen, the camera is irrelevant.

This isn't magic? You mean Steve Jobs had been lying all along?

Why don't you ask the guy who made the comparison about which camera NASA took the picture with? And while you're at it, go find pics taken with the Hubble's cameras to compare.

The higher the iPhone's numbering goes, the greater the idiocy of iToots grows.

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techbeck

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Funny how the previous phones didn't have this issue. Again Apple is not accepting the blame and passing it on to the customers making it their problem. Just like the antenna fiasco.

I understand what apple is saying, but there is a quality problem if no previous phones has the purple effect. Yes. This can happen on different devices but it appears to be more likely with the 5

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threetonesun

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I understand what apple is saying, but there is a quality problem if no previous phones has the purple effect. Yes. This can happen on different devices but it appears to be more likely with the 5

Except the phone is thinner. It's a compromise issue, most likely the thinner phone required a thinner lens (or there's less case covering the lens, which was more prone to flare.

The quality issue is really with the photographers, though. :laugh:

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Except the phone is thinner. It's a compromise issue, most likely the thinner phone required a thinner lens (or there's less case covering the lens, which was more prone to flare.

The quality issue is really with the photographers, though. :laugh:

Bad r&d and qc then. There are other devices just as thin and don't have this issue. Apples camera has always been rated great and better than most of the competition. They have really been dropping the ball.

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threetonesun

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Bad r&d and qc then. There are other devices just as thin and don't have this issue. Apples camera has always been rated great and better than most of the competition. They have really been dropping the ball.

Who? I want measurements of the phone casing, the camera lens size, and the distance from the outside of the case to the lens element for all of them.

Or, you know, we can just agree that this effect has been known about for, I dunno, 500 years or so, and that taking pictures of the SUN is stupid. :rofl:

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javagreen

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The quality issue is really with the photographers, though. :laugh:

Is any further proof necessary about the existence of an Apple Cult?

This, and comparing a NASA space cam to the iPhone's cam... pure gold :laugh:

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threetonesun

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Is any further proof necessary about the existence of an Apple Cult?

This, and comparing a NASA space cam to the iPhone's cam... pure gold :laugh:

Last time I checked, I took pictures with a Nikon with a lens hood. :laugh:

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javagreen

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Last time I checked, I took pictures with a Nikon with a lens hood. :laugh:

You can have exactly zero Apple gear and still be a devout ;)

On the flip side, you can have a ton of Apple gear and still be a rational fan. It's a rare breed though :p

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techbeck

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Who? I want measurements of the phone casing, the camera lens size, and the distance from the outside of the case to the lens element for all of them.

Or, you know, we can just agree that this effect has been known about for, I dunno, 500 years or so, and that taking pictures of the SUN is stupid. :rofl:

Typing from my phone so not going to look up any info now. I will on my laptop later if I remember. Just at work on break atm. I do remember reading that they were not the thinnest.. Unless I misread

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einsteinbqat

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Your comparison is Bullshiz, that's the point ya git.

Why stop there, go find pics of the Hubble space camera to compare it to the iPhone 5 because you bloody damn well can!

You're too much fun.

You are just talking rubbish. You go learn the physics of lenses. Lenses are lenses, and they may create flares no matter their size, focal point, coating, material composition, price point or whatever. If you still fail to understand this, well I am surely not going to explain that to you any further.

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threetonesun

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Typing from my phone so not going to look up any info now. I will on my laptop later if I remember. Just at work on break atm. I do remember reading that they were not the thinnest.. Unless I misread

It's possible it isn't, my larger point was that the outside of the lens might be too close to the outside of the case, which could depend on the lens size, the component layout, etc. Based on my iPhone 4 (oh noes, I do have Apple products!), I can imagine that if the camera was in the same place but the case lost a few mms, it would have less covering the lens element.

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techbeck

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I can imagine that if the camera was in the same place but the case lost a few mms, it would have less covering the lens element.

If that was the case, its a design flaw and they should of kept the phone the same size as the 4s.

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einsteinbqat

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Why are people arguing about whether or not flare happens.

Of course it happens. The issue isnt that flare occurs...it is that the flare is purple. Something is causing an unnatural tint.

Flares can be many colours.

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threetonesun

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If that was the case, its a design flaw and they should of kept the phone the same size as the 4s.

So people should have a thicker phone so other people can take pictures of DIRECT SUNLIGHT?

Brilliant! :laugh:

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Shane Nokes

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Flares can be many colours.

Yes they can, but they should not come out like this. Over the years I've owned many cameras, some great and some cheap. I've never see this level of unnatural hue in photos.

This is pretty bad. I'd rank the issue on par with the brief time I owned a Droid R2D2 model. It kept restarting and playing the R2D2 sounds multiple times a day. There was no way to silence it since it was part of the boot process.

This is about as bad since it causes issues with photos and a lot of people these days use their phones as their primary P&S device.

Apple doesn't want to admit they screwed up...just like they didn't want to admit it with the iPhone 4 antenna either.

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