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[quote name='ChuckFinley' timestamp='1352744372' post='595314300']
Apple are slowly starting to loose the edge they once had, I personally think that its because they lost Steve Jobs. Soon it will be "Cool" not to own an iPhone.
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[size=4]Since when did your choice of your phone become a fashion statement. I agree a lot of people buy it for that reason, but a lot of people also buy it for other useful reasons such as because it just works well for them. We've come to a point where specs really don't matter unless they're being taken advantage off. What's the point of quad core or whatever, when there aren't apps or games being written to take advantage of it.
And how are they losing an edge in their market. I agree it's become slow and the design hasn't changed much, but a bigger more complete update will come in due time.

[color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Yeah, so long as they have that $121 billion cash pile in the bank along with the interests receiving on it, they

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[quote name='szo' timestamp='1352745059' post='595314322']
Since when did your choice of your phone become a fashion statement. I agree a lot of people buy it for that reason, but a lot of people also buy it for other useful reasons such as because it just works well for them. We've come to a point where specs really don't matter unless they're being taken advantage off. What's the point of quad core or whatever, when there aren't apps or games being written to take advantage of it.
And how are they losing an edge in their market. I agree it's become slow and the design hasn't changed much, but a bigger more complete update will come in due time.

[color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Yeah, so long as they have that $121 billion cash pile in the bank along with the interests receiving on it, they

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Why so soon? The iPhone 5 was just released.

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I think that they are just want to fix the release schedule for their devices. It's not smart to release both a new iPhone and iPad is the same quarter, it just leads to lower sales. So now they will move the iPhone to the beginning of the year and the iPad to the end. More people are more likely to purchase an iPad as a gift rather than an iPhone.

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Almost all companies are working on the next version of a product as soon as their current one comes out. Sometimes even 2 generations even ahead. Seems a lot of people don't know this.

[quote name='ChuckFinley' timestamp='1352744372' post='595314300']
Apple are slowly starting to loose the edge they once had, I personally think that its because they lost Steve Jobs. Soon it will be "Cool" not to own an iPhone.
[/quote]you buy a phone because its cool? weird.

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Yes, I want Apple to keep releasing a new phone every 3 months, just so we can tell the retards from the rest, and watch Apple quickly eliminate all other customers.

Only the stupid will continually keep buying each minor revision, while the rest will get sick of how quickly they feel "left behind".

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[quote name='rippleman' timestamp='1352762643' post='595315266']
Almost all companies are working on the next version of a product as soon as their current one comes out. Sometimes even 2 generations even ahead. Seems a lot of people don't know this.

you buy a phone because its cool? weird.
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Of course people know it but if you look at other companies you see that the changes between versions is big, in hardware and software. I dont think Apple is making big changes between versions.

And about your second comment, you'll be surprised how many people buy iPhones because they are cool.

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Who cares how often Apple, or any other company releases a product? Oh yeah.. The people who have to have the newest and fastest gadget. Ur coveted Iphone 5 is worthless when the 5S comes out right? The problem isnt the companies. Its the buyers who measure there self worth, with the toy they own. Companies are greedy and you zombies just keep feeding them.
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Cant really see them changing much. They have been behind lots of others spec wise and every revision seems to be a minor one.

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Hey they did it with[quote name='V-Tech' timestamp='1352734103' post='595313924']
Source: [url="http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/12/apple-rumored-to-begin-trial-production-of-iphone-5s-soon-farewell-yearly-update-cycle/"]techcrunch[/url]



On a personal note, i already think that they are going down hill and if this is true then it's even going to be worse.

Releasing a new phone only 6 months after the previous one will really **** people off. Some people break contracts just to get the latest iPhone but doing so only 6 months after having a new contract will be much harder for people.

If they will roll out some new technology that they held from iPhone 5 just to make people buy the 5S it will be even more evil than i thought they are.
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Hey they figured: "We did with the iPad, why not do it with the iPhone."

Unless they change the way the OS looks and works, they are done.

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Do we expect them to start working on their latest phone 4 weeks before they ship it or something? Of course not.

I expect to see this in September or October 2013. The iPad update was something of a [b]necessity[/b] as the introduction of the lightning port meant all new iPads shipping over the holidays would have been bundled with accessories incompatible with the latest iPhone and iPods. Not good.

I know its 'hip' to hate Apple at the moment. But really, whats going on around here? :/

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Unless they change the way the OS looks and works, they are done.
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Rediculous.

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[quote name='JessJess' timestamp='1352850849' post='595318238']
Do we expect them to start working on their latest phone 4 weeks before they ship it or something? Of course not.

I expect to see this in September or October 2013. The iPad update was something of a [b]necessity[/b] as the introduction of the lightning port meant all new iPads shipping over the holidays would have been bundled with accessories incompatible with the latest iPhone and iPods. Not good.

I know its 'hip' to hate Apple at the moment. But really, whats going on around here? :/



Rediculous.
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And why is that? I own an iMac, an Apple TV, an iPad 3 and an iPhone 4S, but the truth is the truth. They need to do something about iOS. It needs to be redesigned. It needs to be more open so that people can make it their own. Let the user customize it any way they want without the need to use a Jailbreak. That's what I'm saying.

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1352851176' post='595318254']
And why is that? I own an iMac, an Apple TV, an iPad 3 and an iPhone 4S, but the truth is the truth. They need to do something about iOS. It needs to be redesigned. It needs to be more open so that people can make it their own. Let the user customize it any way they want without the need to use a Jailbreak. That's what I'm saying.
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Ok, at the risk of being branded some form of Apple branded farm animal... such is the trend :huh: I will give my [i]opinion[/i].

Because iOS is distinctive, simple, works well and performs well. Changing it because people are 'just bored' seems fool hardy. The majority of people dislike change (see the Windows 8 rages) and its only the handful of tech enthusiasts and nerds/geeks that want things to constantly be reinvented and customised to OCD levels of intracasy.

It does exactly what it needs to do, I could care less that it has no live wallpapers or 'widgets' which people seem to call it out for. The value of those things seem dubious at best. I owned a Galaxy S2 last year after moving from an iPhone 3GS, and at first I loved it. Then I quickly started to realise that the widgets and animated wallpapers were of very little value to me, and I simply filled those home screens with App shortcuts. Which gave me something that looked like iOS (such was TouchWiz). Maybe thats not everyones experience but it was certainly mine.

I fully agree with you on general customisation, they could allow you to take things further than a simple wallpaper. For me I think a lot of the redesign would be on the lock screen. Having information presented from certain apps there, instead of just notifications. They could also do well to giving you the ability to 'default' apps on your device. So you could say, set Chrome as your default browser. Or maps etc.

I think there is lots of room for improvements, and they are slowly doing them, but a complete overhaul seems drastic and unnecessary. It should evolve of course, and I hope it does. With Mr Ives at the helm now I would hope to see some very interesting developments. There are things in Android that id love to see Apple compete with, such as Google Now.

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[quote name='JessJess' timestamp='1352856611' post='595318544']
Ok, at the risk of being branded some form of Apple branded farm animal... such is the trend :huh: I will give my [i]opinion[/i].

Because iOS is distinctive, simple, works well and performs well. Changing it because people are 'just bored' seems fool hardy. The majority of people dislike change (see the Windows 8 rages) and its only the handful of tech enthusiasts and nerds/geeks that want things to constantly be reinvented and customised to OCD levels of intracasy.

It does exactly what it needs to do, I could care less that it has no live wallpapers or 'widgets' which people seem to call it out for. The value of those things seem dubious at best. I owned a Galaxy S2 last year after moving from an iPhone 3GS, and at first I loved it. Then I quickly started to realise that the widgets and animated wallpapers were of very little value to me, and I simply filled those home screens with App shortcuts. Which gave me something that looked like iOS (such was TouchWiz). Maybe thats not everyones experience but it was certainly mine.

I fully agree with you on general customisation, they could allow you to take things further than a simple wallpaper. For me I think a lot of the redesign would be on the lock screen. Having information presented from certain apps there, instead of just notifications. They could also do well to giving you the ability to 'default' apps on your device. So you could say, set Chrome as your default browser. Or maps etc.

I think there is lots of room for improvements, and they are slowly doing them, but a complete overhaul seems drastic and unnecessary. It should evolve of course, and I hope it does. With Mr Ives at the helm now I would hope to see some very interesting developments. There are things in Android that id love to see Apple compete with, such as Google Now.
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Agreed. I like the simplicity of iOS, yes, very much, but they really need to let us customize it a bit. For example. one thing I would really, really like for them to do is give me the option to completely turn off all animations. Not everyone likes animations and I am one of them. Animations slow the UI and I am a speed freak. I like things to pop up fast and quick, not 2 seconds later.

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[quote name='Buttus' timestamp='1352736691' post='595314006']
CHA-CHING!!

Apple is one of the most amazing companies... they know they can release something every 6 months now, with minor updates, and people will buy it like crazy!
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And how exactly is that different from Motorola, Nokia, or HTC (to name just a few)?

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1352851176' post='595318254']
And why is that? I own an iMac, an Apple TV, an iPad 3 and an iPhone 4S, but the truth is the truth. They need to do something about iOS. It needs to be redesigned. It needs to be more open so that people can make it their own. Let the user customize it any way they want without the need to use a Jailbreak. That's what I'm saying.
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+1

I saw an iPad mini at Bestbuy. Played with it. It's a nice gadget. Then I used the OS... The Asus Windows RT Tablet was to the right of it.... MS got the tablet OS right and Apple should take a page from their book.

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im not shocked by this all companies do this but what are they doing to do make the phone


1 thinner ?
2 improve the camera ?
3 fix the maps

i dont see much that can be changed with out a whole new phone

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Even with a 'whole new phone' what can they improve? It's still going to be a phone.

It's going to be thinner. Have a new camera... just like every other smartphone out there.

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[quote name='(Spork)' timestamp='1352894937' post='595319222']
im not shocked by this all companies do this but what are they doing to do make the phone


1 thinner ?
2 improve the camera ?
3 fix the maps

i dont see much that can be changed with out a whole new phone
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If I were Apple, I would forget about making a new phone and concentrate on fixing iOS and that useless Maps app. I really wish Apple would also add a setting on iOS to give the user the option to completely turn off all animations. Apple seems to have a legitimate obsession with animations and all they do is slow the UI down. iOS is faster than that, but the stupid animations cripple it. I hate them and I want to be able to turn them off if I want.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfCs98MqvZU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfCs98MqvZU[/url]

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As an example, Sony's latest smartphone (the Xperia T/TL/TX) isn't even out yet in most countries, yet we've been seeing benchmarks for the next model (to be released in Q2 2012) since the summer.

Designing and testing a phone takes a LOT of time. The whole process from scratch takes around two years you know.

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