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#1 C-Squarez

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 15:17

Neowin will put it here anyway which makes no sense but I digress.

Everyone remembers this video from my last post...

https://www.youtube....h?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

Well, this is why this topic shouldn't be in this section. The video says that after 9/11 we made the decision to take down governments in the Middle East. We've been in a few already and we are planning to go in a few more.

Now Syria "Has nerve gas" and will use it on their people. Right.

http://www.huffingto...tm_hp_ref=world


#2 Jason S.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 16:07

This is all the Neocon Agenda. Their motives are publicly-stated; they are open about their agenda. Started by Leo Strauss, many have followed his teachings up until today. Cheney, Bush (both), Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Irving Kristol, William Kristol, and many others are all Neocons.

The Neoconservatives actually believe that the only way to unite their people (the US population) is by doing away w/ the "evildoers" in other countries. In order words - order out of chaos. They believe that the liberties and freedom that we share are actually corrupting society. So, in order to bring a population together into a cohesive group, they invent enemies where there are none. If you have a constant threat, then that will unite the people and make a stronger nation. There is a fantastic documentary, albeit old now, called 'The Power of Nightmares' which explains the history of the Neocons and their 'evil' counterparts. Oddly enough, the same group of evildoers that the Neocons are trying to abolish believe the same thing. The evildoers believe the only way to unite their people is to do away w/ the corrupted, degenerative Western civilizations.

The Neocons have publicly stated that they want to invade these middle eastern countries, well before 9/11. They used 9/11 as the catalyst for their invasions. They've invaded Afghanistan, Iraq (unjustly), Libya, about to invade Syria, and ultimately Iran. Plus, invading Syria provides a great route into Iran, and Tehran. Plus they keep Turkey as an ally for these reasons. As of early this month, the US has positioned ships and soldiers off the coast of Syria, ready to strike if the Syrian govt intends to use WMD on the people (see here). On top of this, Russia has moved ships into the same area to defend Syria, as they are allies. The Neocons have publicly stated that they intend to topple/invade Iran well over 30 years ago.

Sadly, these are the times we live in. We are currently ruled by the Neocons pushing their agenda. It ultimately wont work, but they sure believe it will.

#3 Anibal P

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 16:27

And jdawg's answer is why it ends up in the conspiracy forum, people really believe these crazy notions and make all kinds of statements about "neocons" yet we have THE most openly Marxist President in our history as the one pushing for involvement in Syria, even before the election no sane Democrat or Republican wanted to get involved in that mess, only Obama and his staff, and even they were hesitant, because we have no valid reason to get involved in a NATO or UN humanitarian mission but hey keep believing that these invisible "neocons" are the ones pushing for anything involving Syria, the Military is too busy sorting out how and where to make the huge cuts that are pending to come their way to be focused on any other war

#4 Jason S.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 16:37

Except everything i typed is fact. i didnt even need to involve the dems or republicans or Obama at all...

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 16:53

Well, this is why this topic shouldn't be in this section. The video says that after 9/11 we made the decision to take down governments in the Middle East. We've been in a few already and we are planning to go in a few more.

Now Syria "Has nerve gas" and will use it on their people. Right.


I don't think it's a conspiracy theory to suggest that 9/11 has been twisted to pursue a political agenda. With regards to Syria, it's no surprise to see the US funding the Syrian rebels through oil money and supplying them with weapons, despite the fact that they've committed terrible atrocities and have links with terrorist organisations. The internal conflicts in Libya and Syria were both supported by the CIA via intermediary parties, typically including Saudi Arabia.

The US is a nation that needs an enemy. That's why fascism moved on to communism, on to terrorism and now against Islam. In order to unite a country you need to create an enemy that threatens to destroy it. The real threat to world security is the US industrial-military complex.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 17:11

And jdawg's answer is why it ends up in the conspiracy forum, people really believe these crazy notions and make all kinds of statements about "neocons" yet we have THE most openly Marxist President in our history as the one pushing for involvement in Syria, even before the election no sane Democrat or Republican wanted to get involved in that mess, only Obama and his staff, and even they were hesitant, because we have no valid reason to get involved in a NATO or UN humanitarian mission but hey keep believing that these invisible "neocons" are the ones pushing for anything involving Syria, the Military is too busy sorting out how and where to make the huge cuts that are pending to come their way to be focused on any other war


You obviously don't even have a clue what marxist means.

#7 Growled

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 00:43

I see why this thread is in conspiracy now.

#8 Jason S.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 14:23

I see why this thread is in conspiracy now.

did you watch the video? do you know anything about the Neoconservatives? there's nothing in this thread that is conspiratorial.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 14:31

I see why this thread is in conspiracy now.


Indeed. The only thing this thread is missing now is the inevitable link to Infowars.

#10 HawkMan

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 14:34

Indeed. The only thing this thread is missing now is the inevitable link to Infowars.


What about RT ?

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 14:49

KEEP FEAR ALIVE!

#12 FunkyMike

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 14:50

What about RT ?


I would like to hear you compare RT to Infowars ...

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 14:54

Double post.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 14:54

You obviously don't even have a clue what marxist means.


Marxism is an economic and sociopolitical worldview and method of socioeconomic inquiry based upon a materialist interpretation of historical development, a dialectical view of social change, and an analysis of class-relations within society and their application in the analysis and critique of the development of capitalism. In the mid-to-late 19th century, the intellectual development of Marxism was pioneered by two German philosophers, Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. Marxist analyses and methodologies have influenced multiple political ideologies and social movements throughout history. Marxism encompasses an economic theory, a sociological theory, a philosophical method and a revolutionary view of social change. There is no one definitive Marxist theory; Marxist analysis has been applied to a variety of different subjects and has been modified during the course of its development so that there are multiple Marxist theories.


Barack Obama, apparently was a member of a communist party setup, called the Illinois New Party and/or the Chicago New Party, not 100% sure of the accuracy of this.

#15 FunkyMike

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 14:55

General Wesley Clark says Syria is on their list. And Iran.


That pretty much sums it up. Nice list with checkboxes next to it.