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#46 Joshie

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 00:32

What? Staples, Office Max and Office Depot - ALL have 23" monitors and above out on display. Heck, you can pick one up for under $150 on sale, that's what I paid for my 23".

I don't know where you shop, but if the big 3 office stores keep them in stock and on display, then you can bet every electronic big box store has them.


Heck, $499 can get you a 2560x1440 27" display getting a 4+ star rating over at Amazon. Price isn't exactly a limiting factor here.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 00:40

One point I would like to bring to the table is that "Windows 8 Apps" are not multi-monitor aware or friendly. My gripe is that I can not have two full-mode 'modern' applications on individual monitors.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 00:54

I usually spend 99.999% of the time in desktop mode.
Recently, thanks to the excellent "StartisBack", I have been spending 99.999999% of the time in desktop mode.

On tablets, I have no problem with them, but forced full-screen apps on the desktop represents a huge, misguided, pointless step backwards.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:11

Heck, $499 can get you a 2560x1440 27" display getting a 4+ star rating over at Amazon. Price isn't exactly a limiting factor here.


Right, I was just pointing out you can go to ANY office supply store and pick up a 23" to 25" HD monitor, and that they are on display and in stock. I mentioned mine because it was/is a cheap monitor that cost less @ 23" than several of 19" top of the line models. People always think bigger is better and if they are cheaper than their smaller counter parts you are going to move lots of big monitors.

I usually spend 99.999% of the time in desktop mode.
Recently, thanks to the excellent "StartisBack", I have been spending 99.999999% of the time in desktop mode.

On tablets, I have no problem with them, but forced full-screen apps on the desktop represents a huge, misguided, pointless step backwards.


Same here, I have both Start8 ans Startisback demos/trials going right now on different machines testing which I want to spring for. I guess the idea that desktop users wouldn't want a tablet UI flew right over the heads of Microsoft. Not even and option to keep the os in "desktop" mode. The biggest surprise for me was that they removed the ability to change your system fonts without hacking into the registry, it just stunned me.

#50 Colin McGregor

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:22

Dvorak. I stopped there.


got farther then me

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:26

Once you learn the shortcut keys, it's great


What about the average user who can barely master "Control + C"

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:37

What about the average user who can barely master "Control + C"


The average user doesn't complain that something is one click more in the new system or that they have to move the mouse a little bit more.
Only the 'power 'users' find those things annoying, so they should just learn the shortcut keys I guess

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:38

Holy pink Vaios, Batman!

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:47

Where Is Windows 8.1?
by John C. Dvorak


That's where I stopped reading

#55 TurboShrimp

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:51

I guess i am doing somthing wrong because i am loving windows 8 on my Gaming PC Desktop.
its super fast i see like 80-90% speed boost over windows 7

and all my 30+ steam games work perfect

whats with all the hate for it.

im not sure whats worse Windows 8 haters or Kotaku.com and there Flaming hate for anything Nintendo lol

#56 DavidM

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:31

I guess i am doing somthing wrong because i am loving windows 8 on my Gaming PC Desktop.
its super fast i see like 80-90% speed boost over windows 7

and all my 30+ steam games work perfect

whats with all the hate for it.

im not sure whats worse Windows 8 haters or Kotaku.com and there Flaming hate for anything Nintendo lol


80-90% speed boost? Really?

"Aside from those couple of idiosyncrasies, performance under Windows 8 is indistinguishable from Windows 7. Any speed-up or slow-down would be almost impossible to identify during game play, and we expect compatibility issues to get patched quickly by game developers." - Tom's Hardware - October 26, 2012

#57 TheExperiment

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:45

I can say on my 24" I usually run things full screen (except now I have telnet from the Store parked to the side of my desktop.)

#58 mrp04

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:52

Yes, full screen apps are useless on 27" WQHD screens, and also kinda dumb on 23". But you don't have to use them. I know I don't use metro apps on my desktop with a 30" 2560x1600 and 27" 2560x1440 screens. Desktop mode works great on Windows 8.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:04

Not quite right. You can access OS X components in fullscreen just like you would on Windows 8: Either by mouse proximity to certain hotspots or by shortcuts.

Also, you are right that the feature must be coded into apps. Just like Metro.

I was told by many people around here that "average/normal people" don't like hidden UI and will certainly be confused by it. It is a complete deal breaker! :whistle:

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:41

Heck, $499 can get you a 2560x1440 27" display getting a 4+ star rating over at Amazon. Price isn't exactly a limiting factor here.

I would like to see that Monitor...

I usually spend 99.999% of the time in desktop mode.
Recently, thanks to the excellent "StartisBack", I have been spending 99.999999% of the time in desktop mode.

On tablets, I have no problem with them, but forced full-screen apps on the desktop represents a huge, misguided, pointless step backwards.

Classic Shell gives Windows 8 a high performance Start Button just like Windows 7 has, but for free. Why in the heck pay for a start button??? Just go back to Windows 7 then, lol... Classic Shell on Windows 8 works perfectly imo... Bring on 8.1 with Dekstop mode please.

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