Where Is Windows 8.1?

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Stoffel

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What about the average user who can barely master "Control + C"

The average user doesn't complain that something is one click more in the new system or that they have to move the mouse a little bit more.

Only the 'power 'users' find those things annoying, so they should just learn the shortcut keys I guess

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TurboShrimp

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I guess i am doing somthing wrong because i am loving windows 8 on my Gaming PC Desktop.

its super fast i see like 80-90% speed boost over windows 7

and all my 30+ steam games work perfect

whats with all the hate for it.

im not sure whats worse Windows 8 haters or Kotaku.com and there Flaming hate for anything Nintendo lol

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DavidM

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I guess i am doing somthing wrong because i am loving windows 8 on my Gaming PC Desktop.

its super fast i see like 80-90% speed boost over windows 7

and all my 30+ steam games work perfect

whats with all the hate for it.

im not sure whats worse Windows 8 haters or Kotaku.com and there Flaming hate for anything Nintendo lol

80-90% speed boost? Really?

"Aside from those couple of idiosyncrasies, performance under Windows 8 is indistinguishable from Windows 7. Any speed-up or slow-down would be almost impossible to identify during game play, and we expect compatibility issues to get patched quickly by game developers." - Tom's Hardware - October 26, 2012

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BajiRav

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Not quite right. You can access OS X components in fullscreen just like you would on Windows 8: Either by mouse proximity to certain hotspots or by shortcuts.

Also, you are right that the feature must be coded into apps. Just like Metro.

I was told by many people around here that "average/normal people" don't like hidden UI and will certainly be confused by it. It is a complete deal breaker! :whistle:

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SkOrPn

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Heck, $499 can get you a 2560x1440 27" display getting a 4+ star rating over at Amazon. Price isn't exactly a limiting factor here.

I would like to see that Monitor...

I usually spend 99.999% of the time in desktop mode.

Recently, thanks to the excellent "StartisBack", I have been spending 99.999999% of the time in desktop mode.

On tablets, I have no problem with them, but forced full-screen apps on the desktop represents a huge, misguided, pointless step backwards.

Classic Shell gives Windows 8 a high performance Start Button just like Windows 7 has, but for free. Why in the heck pay for a start button??? Just go back to Windows 7 then, lol... Classic Shell on Windows 8 works perfectly imo... Bring on 8.1 with Dekstop mode please.

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Quillz

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I agree with most of his ideas, I do think a point system works quite well, similar to what Mac OS X and Linux do. I think a yearly update cycle could work with Windows, and I think this is what Microsoft is considering, are they not?

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dvb2000

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Back before Windows 95, the company released a lot of "point step" incremental upgrade versions of both Windows and DOS. There was a Windows 3 and a Windows 3.1, for example. In fact, there was even a 3.11 and 3.2. This was done to tweak the offering as Windows was still being fine-tuned to meet user demands and needs.

Bill Gates used to run the show then, and he was on a mission to make Windows user friendly and easy to use.

These days the monkies in charge have totally lost the plot, and obviously couldn't care less how hard it is to use/navigate.

The end result will be no surprise, just a matter of time before Microsoft fades into obscurity.

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.Neo

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The We're talking 27+. Dvorak wants to claim fullscreen "sucks" on 27+ inch monitors, but no consumer I know of owns a 27+ inch monitor.

You should learn to understand the world doesn't end beyond your immediate surroundings. On top of that he's merely using 27-inch screens as an example. The exact same thing applies to any screen running at 1920 x 1080 too: practically no app, with the exception of videos and games, will be able to actually make proper use of that space. And by "proper use" I don't mean scaling everything up to monstrous sizes.

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ahhell

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Bill Gates used to run the show then, and he was on a mission to make Windows user friendly and easy to use.

These days the monkies in charge have totally lost the plot, and obviously couldn't care less how hard it is to use/navigate.

The end result will be no surprise, just a matter of time before Microsoft fades into obscurity.

AHAHAHAHA

Yeah, whatever dude.

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HawkMan

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Most people with the means will buy screens in excess of 23-inch. It's really that simple and something I see happening all the time. If your situation is different either by choice and/or financial restrictions that's fine too of course.

I can tell you that that's factually incorrect and not even CLOSE to real life. iMac users buy those sizes because they need to show of their digital penis compensation. and if you didn't know, iMac users are not even close to being "most" of anything.

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Dot Matrix

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You should learn to understand the world doesn't end beyond your immediate surroundings. On top of that he's merely using 27-inch screens as an example. The exact same thing applies to any screen running at 1920 x 1080 too: practically no app, with the exception of videos and games, will be able to actually make proper use of that space. And by "proper use" I don't mean scaling everything up to monstrous sizes.

So, another problem on an already long list of problems with using monster monitors. No surprise here. You guys want thses things, and then want to cry over the problems they are giving you.

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Colin McGregor

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I think I got this....

Windows 8.1 will be the return of the start menu.

* Full media center support

* Internet explorer 10.1

* Hopefully X64 versions only

* Update rollups

it better not bring back the start button. Let the kids that are too slow to learn use some 3rd party start button. Let everyone else enjoy windows 8.

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BajiRav

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You should learn to understand the world doesn't end beyond your immediate surroundings. On top of that he's merely using 27-inch screens as an example. The exact same thing applies to any screen running at 1920 x 1080 too: practically no app, with the exception of videos and games, will be able to actually make proper use of that space. And by "proper use" I don't mean scaling everything up to monstrous sizes.

well it's no better on my 22" which is just 1680x1050 (I think, not sure what the actual res is). The point is - you don't have to use metro apps, start screen scales just fine. Use desktop like you always did.

I guess metro apps that scale properly are still a distant dream.

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