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#76 OP Silpheed2K

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 01:59

Honestly, I say this thread should probably die now since some mods had to delete a bunch of posts. It's becoming tiresome with the arguing in this thread now.

I have a question for those who think the government is out to get them... why don't you leave? If I lived in a place where I thought my government was going to hurt me or other civilians as part of the "New World Order" I'd sure as hell get out of dodge.

ALSO.. if they're willing to kill innocent children to further "the cause"... why wouldnt they kill you for "figuring it out"? The fact you're still here posting about it means you're full of s***.

To answer your question, it's because many of my ancestors made many sacrifices (World War II, Civil Rights, etc.) so that I could have the opportunities and rights I have today. Also, because if government was going to hurt me I'd have the option to defend myself thanks to the 2nd Amendment. They can't exactly kill you (yet) for speaking your mind, because we have the 1st Amendment which is freedom of speech and religion. Slowly our rights have been eroding over the past century and we barely have any rights left, compared to the freedom of our ancestors.
I don't leave because I don't have to leave. It is my country and it was founded on the blood of my people. I have a civic duty to defend my rights from any threat to infringe upon them. Also, I'm sure the only option for people of other countries is to leave, because they have no way of defending themselves. There comes a point where talking or going through the system is pointless, since the system is corrupt. That's why you can try to stop it through as many peaceful means as possible; but if it comes to the worse, you have the option of fighting for your freedom with your arms.
That's why people aren't being killed and we don't have to leave. We're America. The example of wealth, happiness, free speech and private property. The example of freedom and pursuing your own destiny. That's why so many evil people hate us and try to drive our country into the ground. Because we're the last true example of freedom and there's no other nation like us in the entire world.

I hope that answers your question and pick some better words to use next time. You don't want to spread that ugliness.


#77 FloatingFatMan

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 07:14

If you truly believe your government did this, how can you possibly believe they wouldn't just off you too? It would, after all, be really easy for them to do.

#78 TheElite

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 16:13

I have a question for those who think the government is out to get them... why don't you leave? If I lived in a place where I thought my government was going to hurt me or other civilians as part of the "New World Order" I'd sure as hell get out of dodge.


Yeah, like the world hasn't ever been disrupted by the US's meddling in other countries affairs, amirite?

If you truly believe your government did this, how can you possibly believe they wouldn't just off you too? It would, after all, be really easy for them to do.


You're saying it like you have forgotten what happened to various people like Dr Kelly.

#79 FloatingFatMan

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 18:01

You're saying it like you have forgotten what happened to various people like Dr Kelly.


Evidence?

#80 TheElite

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 18:27

Evidence?


Evidence for what? That he didn't kill himself? From many MP's relating to the inquiry to even foreign intelligence agencies stating that the circumstances didn't warrant suicide, you are saying that he did?

Please. People who believe that everything is transparent and happens for the good of the nation are deluded.

#81 OP Silpheed2K

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 20:08

Guys just so you know. It's almost Christmas and I want everybody on Neowin to have a Merry Christmas.

That said, you never win when you're arguing with idiots. It's already been disproven that the anti-gun stance doesn't work and that argument was won (by me); but I disproved them wrong with such a strong and articulate argument, that it struck a nerve in a lot of (non-american) people and instead of countering my argument, which they couldn't, they ran and reported the post to somebody who deleted it and a bunch of posts in this thread. Therefore it's not worth anybody's time arguing in this thread anymore and I'll be the bigger person and bow out.

That said, have a Merry Christmas folks. I hope you all get lots of joy and cheer from the holidays and new years. I'm done with this thread (for now) and I hope you guys wrap it up.

#82 +warwagon

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 20:25

You know, when Obama wiped the tear from his eye(s) during the press conference I never saw an actual tear. His eyes looked pretty dry to me.

#83 FloatingFatMan

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 20:32

Evidence for what? That he didn't kill himself? From many MP's relating to the inquiry to even foreign intelligence agencies stating that the circumstances didn't warrant suicide, you are saying that he did?

Please. People who believe that everything is transparent and happens for the good of the nation are deluded.


Unless you have evidence that he was murdered, then yes, he killed himself. Just because some ministers and intelligence agencies say it didn't warrant suicide, doesn't mean that it wasn't.

Whether he killed himself or not I have no idea as I wasn't there and haven't seen the evidence. But just because I don't know, doesn't mean I'm going to pull some fairy tale answer out of my butt and claim he was murdered by some conspiracy.

If you want to claim differently, prove it.

#84 mudslag

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 23:21

You know, when Obama wiped the tear from his eye(s) during the press conference I never saw an actual tear. His eyes looked pretty dry to me.



Oh goodie we can add to this conspiracy "Obama's fake tears".

#85 Juddy

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 11:31

You aren't that smart and you should quit while you're ahead. I notice you always drop by a thread to say the latest dumb sh**. You know nothing about the privileges we Americans are born with and the right to defend ourselves. I'm pretty sure your existence of being monitored by CCTV and getting arrested for talking bad about the royal family is pathetic. You should learn about the subjects you talk about before spouting the crap that comes out in your forum posts. You'd suck as a leader and a law maker. I had to say it.


Do people in the UK really get arrested for bad mouthing the royal family? Lmao.

That said, you never win when you're arguing with idiots. It's already been disproven that the anti-gun stance doesn't work and that argument was won (by me); but I disproved them wrong with such a strong and articulate argument, that it struck a nerve in a lot of (non-american) people and instead of countering my argument, which they couldn't, they ran and reported the post to somebody who deleted it and a bunch of posts in this thread. Therefore it's not worth anybody's time arguing in this thread anymore and I'll be the bigger person and bow out.



lol... Now there is a conspiracy against you on this forum? Convenient your super great, convincing argument is nowhere to be found.

#86 FloatingFatMan

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 16:35

Do people in the UK really get arrested for bad mouthing the royal family? Lmao.


No. Like I said, he needs to get his facts straight. :p

#87 Growled

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 20:20

If you truly believe your government did this, how can you possibly believe they wouldn't just off you too? It would, after all, be really easy for them to do.


Our government, much like all governments around the world, are capable of anything.

#88 Juddy

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 23:16

I love the the U.S. govt. couldn't cover up ****in' Watergate, but now apparently they can cover up blowing up their own buildings and executing mass shootings. For goodness sake...

#89 illage3

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 08:00

I don't know who it was planned by, but it must have been.   In both Sandy Hook and the Dark Knight shootings someone must have pushed the mentally unstable people enough to carry it out.  Its a bit convienent that both shootings were carried out by those with mental health issues don't you think?



#90 Juddy

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:52

Why do they need to be pushed? If you're unstable you can create delusional worldviews and conspiracies in your own mind which prompt you to act insane. You don't need to convince a crazy person to act crazy.





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