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#1 Rockrz

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 05:46

OK, so I got me wife a new Dell with Win 7 Home Premium x64 and I wanted to upgrade the HD to a larger one where I'd have mo room to make two partitions so I can easily use Acronis. I used Partition Wizard to make the new partition.

This is the second time this has happened on the same laptop... things are runing smoothly, I use my external USB drive to load verious programs (Defraggler, CCleaner, etc) that are on my USB drive already.

So, I'm rolling along and it's time to make the new partition with Partition Wizard so I can install Acronis and store the backup file over on that new partition and all that goes well... except for on thing... after I create the new Partition, the computer cannot see my USB drive all of a sudden.

If I go in to admin tools > computer mgmt > disk mgmt... I can see it there, but if I go to start > computer where I can see the C drive and the new partition labeled E (the CD Rom is already labeled D)... but I cannot see the external USB drive.

Before I made the new partition, no problem. As soon as I plug in the USB drive it appears quickly.
It's just after making the new partition, twice now, it can no longer see the usb drive.

Anybody have any ideas???


#2 OP Rockrz

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 14:38

I guess since I have this new drive split into two partitions, I could always pull it out of the laptop... format the part orf the partition that is the C drive, and then put it back in the laptop and re-load Windows.

That ought to fix it since there is no further need to use Partition Wizard and I'd be getting a fresh install on the partition that is to be C Drive

Don't know what else I can do since I don't have hours / days to chase down what is causing this.
I need to give this to her by Christmas...

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 14:59

In disk management, try assigning the USB drive a new driver letter, maybe the new partition stole it and windows failed to reassign one

#4 sc302

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 15:35

doesn't acronis make a secure zone partition all by itself?

http://en.wikipedia....nis_Secure_Zone
http://www.acronis.c...ecure-zone.html
http://www.windowsta...or-pc-recovery/ - as it says the wizard creates the partition for you.

#5 OP Rockrz

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 18:37

In disk management, try assigning the USB drive a new driver letter, maybe the new partition stole it and windows failed to reassign one


OK, I didn't try that... good idea.




doesn't acronis make a secure zone partition all by itself?

http://en.wikipedia....nis_Secure_Zone
http://www.acronis.c...ecure-zone.html
http://www.windowsta...or-pc-recovery/ - as it says the wizard creates the partition for you.


I never used the secure zone because I want to save the back up image to other drives.

If I used the secure zone and there was hard drive failure... I'd be left with no way to restore my system using the backup image.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 18:43

Who said you can't do both?

#7 OP Rockrz

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 19:48

Who said you can't do both?


Why? That's just more work.

When I setup a back up image with Acronis, I store it on numerous drives so to have to go back and do yet another backup image using the secure zone is redundant and un-necessary since I already have a back up image and don't need to do that.

Just trying to keep my life as simple and as efficient as possible.



In disk management, try assigning the USB drive a new driver letter, maybe the new partition stole it and windows failed to reassign one


Well, I went and did that... and it worked... but after you wait a while and plug that same USB drive in again... it does not recognize it automatically, like all my other computers do, and I have to go back to disk management and assign it a letter.

So, needless to say this is not functioning properly and as such this is not acceptable.

If I cannot find a way to fix it so the computer automatically recognizes it, then I'm going to have to go with plan B and re-install Windows fresh since I now have this drive partitioned and it should automatically recognize the USB drive right when I plug it in like it's supposed to.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 00:59

Your going to reinstall windows because it doesn't assign a drive letter to your usb disk the way you want??

Here use this tool

http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbdlm_e.html
USBDLM is a Windows service that gives control over Windows' drive letter assignment for USB drives. Running as service makes it independent of the logged on user's privileges, so there is no need to give the users the privilege to change drive letters.
It automatically solves conflicts between USB drives and network or subst drives of the currently logged on user.
Furthermore you can define new default letters for USB drives and much more.

#9 Hum

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 01:05

Wouldn't it be easier to just plug in an external drive to do back-ups ?

#10 OP Rockrz

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 01:24

Wouldn't it be easier to just plug in an external drive to do back-ups ?


That's what I've been talking about if you'll go back and re-read the original post.



Your going to reinstall windows because it doesn't assign a drive letter to your usb disk the way you want??

Here use this tool

http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbdlm_e.html



Thanks, but it doesn't take long at all to load Windows and then tweak a few things to get the computer ready to use.
I'm kinda leary of running un-known software that may or may not cause issues. I'd rather just have Windows work right on this issue.

Now that the drive has been partitioned, there's no need to run Partition Wizard which is what caused this.
Before running Partition Wizard, it was working perfectly.

This is a brand new laptop and I'd like to have it working perfectly, so re-loading won't take that long and I'll have it all working just like 'ol Bill intended :D

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 13:33

Unknown software?

http://www.petri.co....-in-windows.htm

They recommend the same software -- its been well known software for YEARS AND YEARS! Back from the XP days. Been around for 2005 I do believe.

That being said I have never had an issue with setting a drive letter for a portal media storage devices, be it usb flash/thumb or full external drive, SD card, Camera, Phone - there are lots of usb devices that you plug in and allow you access to their storage.

Once you set a device to say the F: drive -- that machine should always assign it the F drive. Now if you change perm drive/partition or even a network share to use F - then yeah its quite possible to have a problem with that drive the next time you plug it in. So make it G this time, and now it should be always be G. Now if you plug it into a different machine it might be D or E or Z, etc. If you want it to be G on all your computers - then set that once and you should be done.

Or you could use software like above to make sure you disks always show up with a drive letter vs windows getting confused be cause there is an overlap in the assigned letters, etc.

If you having issues with drive letters - just mount your devices to a folder, you don't have to assign a drive letter to access it it could be c:\usb or d:\thumb that the device is mounted too.

You can also just remove the old registry entry that points to your drive letter that conflicts for that device, or change it in the registry so that device gets assigned a different letter - this article goes over how to do that
http://www.mydigital...e-drive-letter/

I pointed to the software because thought it would be a easier solution that having you dig in the registry. But you can that route as well without having to run any 3rd party software you don't trust.

Reinstalling windows to change what drive letter it should map to some external devices is nuts! Its only a simple registry key, delete the one for your device that assigned it a drive letter you have now used for a different partition - and it should then pick a free one.

Oh **** that icon on my desktop is in the wrong place - better reinstall the OS ;)

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 13:51

Oh **** that icon on my desktop is in the wrong place - better reinstall the OS ;)


I've seen people reinstall for less :laugh:

#13 Hum

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 15:53

That's what I've been talking about if you'll go back and re-read the original post.


You don't need to partition any drive to do back-ups to an external drive.

I never have had to mess with a partition, except to eliminate them.

#14 OP Rockrz

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 17:23

You don't need to partition any drive to do back-ups to an external drive.

I never have had to mess with a partition, except to eliminate them.


I want to have the backup image available right on the laptop without having to use the external drive since she does not always take the external drive with her when she goes out of town and is traveling light.

Point is, you should be able to partition with no adverse effects.


Oh **** that icon on my desktop is in the wrong place - better reinstall the OS


It's currently not functioning properly, and re-installing will fix that.

Or... I could spend hours and hours and hours and hours trying to figure out what's going on.

The point of re-installing it that it is going to be quicker and less hassle to re-install verses
sitting around for who knows how long trying to figure it out.

It's a brand new laptop, and it WILL function properly!

#15 OP Rockrz

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 17:30

Your going to reinstall windows because it doesn't assign a drive letter to your usb disk the way you want??

Here use this tool

http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbdlm_e.html



This tool doesn't automatically make Windows assign a drive letter so a USB drive can be used immediately.... which is how this is supposed to work.

I can assign the drive letter manually, so this tool is not needed since it's doesn't fix the issue.

The issue is... I should be able to plug in a USB drive and it automatically be recognized so I can access it immediately.

It's not doing that without me having to manually assign it a letter, so it's not functioning properly... so, re-installing fresh is what needs to be done since I do not know exactly what to do in order to fix this and by the time I test and research, etc, etc, I could have re-installed the OS and have the issue fixed.

Sometimes you have to look at things from a cost factor and from a time spent on the project factor.



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