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Wired Xbox 360 controller won't work with my Tab 2 10.1


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#1 King Mustard

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:30

I am trying to connect a wired Xbox 360 controller to my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 tablet (running Samsung's stock Android 4.1.1 ROM) via. an OTG adapter.

When I connect it, the following two messages appear:

"High-power USB device connected."

"Can not access to this device. "Connected device needs power supply."

Due to this, USB/BT Joystick Centre can't detect the controller.

Due to the poor English in the second message, I am presuming it's a Samsung ROM issue, rather than an Android/a tablet hardware issue.

Any ideas?


#2 HawkMan

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:58

Seems like the error message gives the problem quite clearly to me...

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 13:01

View PostHawkMan, on 09 January 2013 - 12:58, said:

Seems like the error message gives the problem quite clearly to me...
Hardly. Loads of other Android phone/tablets users have no issues with the controller and their OTG adapter.

And are you saying you think the controller needs to be plugged into the mains? ;) Think.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 13:10

This have any answers?



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Posted 09 January 2013 - 13:19

Not sure if it's the same for your tablet but it don't think my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (the first one) supported the XBox controller until i installed a custom rom that included the necessary kernel modules.
Having said that... both my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus support it without doing anything special. I also haven't needed to use "USB/BT Joystick Center" at all, it just works when detected by Android.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 13:22

View Postbmdixon, on 09 January 2013 - 13:19, said:

Not sure if it's the same for your tablet but it don't think my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (the first one) supported the XBox controller until i installed a custom rom that included the necessary kernel modules.
Having said that... both my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus support it without doing anything special. I also haven't needed to use "USB/BT Joystick Center" at all, it just works when detected by Android.

Yeah, I had a feeling it was related to the stock Samsung ROM :/

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:10

your USB port by default does not support high power output. so it cannot support a high power USB device, aka in this case the xbox controller. just like it wouldn't support most printers who require high power, many external HDD's. and so on.

a custom ROM "MIGHT" be able to change this by sending over spec power to the USB port, at the risk of burning it out.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:23

View PostHawkMan, on 09 January 2013 - 14:10, said:

your USB port by default does not support high power output. so it cannot support a high power USB device, aka in this case the xbox controller. just like it wouldn't support most printers who require high power, many external HDD's. and so on.

a custom ROM "MIGHT" be able to change this by sending over spec power to the USB port, at the risk of burning it out.
I'm surprised the controller is classed as a "high power" device. Sure, the vibration function is what it could be regarding, but I wouldn't if that's disabled.

I'm also annoyed that this tablet apparently can't do it, but many Samsung Galaxy phones support the Xbox 360 controller. Confusing!

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:28

a device is either designed as high power or it's not, it can't change between them.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:29

Apparently it is a common issue with people attempting to do this however, the USB port is not providing enough power to support using the Xbox 360 controller, I would suggest using Bluetooth and a PS3 controller. (that is what I use on my Tablet and phone.)
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:32

View Postlittleneutrino, on 09 January 2013 - 14:29, said:

Apparently it is a common issue with people attempting to do this however, the USB port is not providing enough power to support using the Xbox 360 controller, I would suggest using Bluetooth and a PS3 controller. (that is what I use on my Tablet and phone.)
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I can't really afford a PlayStation 3 controller.

Thank you for your help, guys :)

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:34

View PostKing Mustard, on 09 January 2013 - 13:01, said:

Hardly. Loads of other Android phone/tablets users have no issues with the controller and their OTG adapter.

And are you saying you think the controller needs to be plugged into the mains? ;) Think.

It should work if you use a powered USB hub. 360 controllers (even the wireless dongle for Windows) use a ridiculous amount of USB power.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:40

View PostGreyWolf, on 09 January 2013 - 14:34, said:

It should work if you use a powered USB hub. 360 controllers (even the wireless dongle for Windows) use a ridiculous amount of USB power.

The wireless dongle use it so it can charge up the blow the fuse capacitor :p

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:43

View PostHawkMan, on 09 January 2013 - 14:40, said:

The wireless dongle use it so it can charge up the blow the fuse capacitor :p

It doesn't even charge the controller. That's why I don't understand the power consumption. It's just a lozenge-looking lump. :p

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 14:46

part of it is probably the really tiny antenna inside combined with the relatively good range. and as I said, they have to get the power to constantly blow that fuse after a couple of months from somewhere.