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#211 ahhell

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 15:11

Unfortunatly, not for my board. :( Just XP, Vista, and 7. http://www.asrock.co...Model=A770DE%2b

I'm getting an AM3+ board for my birthday, so I'll see if I'm in the mood to try W8 again.

Why would you need Win8 specific drivers when all the Win7 ones work just fine?


#212 Dot Matrix

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 15:16

Unfortunatly, not for my board. :( Just XP, Vista, and 7. http://www.asrock.co...Model=A770DE%2b

I'm getting an AM3+ board for my birthday, so I'll see if I'm in the mood to try W8 again.


Do Windows 7 drivers not work for you? How old is your board?

#213 f0rk_b0mb

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 15:17

Why would you need Win8 specific drivers when all the Win7 ones work just fine?



Do Windows 7 drivers not work for you? How old is your board?



I tried installing them, but it gave me an "Operating System Not Supported" error message. When I plug in a USB drive, I get USB 1 speeds and that annoying "This device can perform faster" message. Some stuff in Device manager also shows up as unknown. I reboot into Windows 7, everything is fine.

#214 Dashel

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 17:58

If you want to do it like that, then windows 8 is like this:

1. move mouse to upper corner
2. Swipe down
3.click settings
4. Click power
5. click shut down


Since those are hidden they should also count twice due to the increased memory/difficulty. So thats five actions just to get to Settings for a grand total of 7 vs 3 in 'classics' favor.

The reasons for justification still boggle me here too. I've heard 'centralized' and 'accessible from anywhere', two things that a visible taskbar/Start does equally and generally better than split, hidden ones (on the Desktop).

Riddle me this, if MS would have chosen the hot corner route 25 years ago, and introduced the taskbar as we know it at this time, what exactly is your meter for 'change and progress'? Would not the same people rejoice at the 'change' and lament on how antiquated 'hot corners' are (since they do harken to a time of low, single resolution displays)

#215 AnotherITguy

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 18:05

Yes...let the **** flame party begin, if you don't like the way you have to shut down windows 8, for the love of god, get classic shell, its free, and quit your whining, its annoying...

Geees... people these days

and for the doofus that said it takes more time do it...

CHARMS BAR > SETTINGS > Click on power, shutdown....ohhhh 3 seconds., this is so difficult

#216 BajiRav

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 18:09

Reading this thread makes me think that all people do with their PCs is shut it down. :D You folks should be happy that you can at least shut it down, my PC has refused to shut down for past month or so :p. Be happy in whatever you have, remember it can be worse like in my case.
Windows 8 won't shutdown. (not my thread)

I tried installing them, but it gave me an "Operating System Not Supported" error message. When I plug in a USB drive, I get USB 1 speeds and that annoying "This device can perform faster" message. Some stuff in Device manager also shows up as unknown. I reboot into Windows 7, everything is fine.

did you try windows update or extracting drivers out of the installers?

#217 xWhiplash

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 18:24

Yes...let the **** flame party begin, if you don't like the way you have to shut down windows 8, for the love of god, get classic shell, its free, and quit your whining, its annoying...

Geees... people these days

and for the doofus that said it takes more time do it...

CHARMS BAR > SETTINGS > Click on power, shutdown....ohhhh 3 seconds., this is so difficult


Sigh....It is not the time. But when you forget, you go to the start screen and look around for 10 seconds and remember "Oh that is right"....it adds up. You work on Windows XP up to Windows 7 at work, have the nice little Start Menu and click Shut Down right there. When you get home, you forget these things.

Again, I have had to repeat myself numerous times to people where the shut down procedure is now. If you add up the time, they sit in the start screen for a little while trying to find it, they have to pick up the phone and call me and say "Sorry I forgot again, where is shut down?".

It is hard for us to understand the general public.

AGAIN, for the millionth time, of course there will be people out there that can use Windows 8 perfectly fine. But for those that cannot, and who I had to deal with, just put the stupid button in the Start Screen.....it will not hurt those of you that use the charms bar.

I love it when people just recommend Start8/startisback/classicshell/etc....Most likely businesses will not install third party software like this AND not go through the process of retaining people. What do you recommend for them? I know some businesses require you to shut down your computer when you leave.

So we no longer have the right to complain/voice our opinions about anything anymore? We are consumers. If we do not voice our objections, that benefits NOBODY. Somebody releases a patch that breaks something (app store for example). People should not be allowed to rate it 1 star because it is now broke? Developers listen to that stuff. If nobody says anything, for all they know it works perfectly fine in their test environment.

We shouldn't HAVE to resort to Start8 and the similar programs to give us the functionality we had for 17 years. I get it "Change is needed....blah blah blah"....but when Windows is installed on the REGULAR Desktop (no touch screen is detected, standard desktop computer for business use), it should have options like this. BUILT IN to the OS, not having people download third party programs. It opens a lot of issues when things do not work.

#218 f0rk_b0mb

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 22:17

did you try windows update or extracting drivers out of the installers?


Yes and Yes. I also tried one of those driver installer programs (forget which one) but when I went to download and install the driver, it errored out on me or refused to start. I spent probably an afternoon trying to get them working before I finally realized it was a no go. Funny thing is Windows 7 drivers worked for me in the DP and CP. So whatever Microsoft changed during that period, doesn't like my hardware/drivers. Thanks for trying to help me, tho. I appreciate it. :)

#219 f0rk_b0mb

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 22:27

Riddle me this, if MS would have chosen the hot corner route 25 years ago, and introduced the taskbar as we know it at this time, what exactly is your meter for 'change and progress'? Would not the same people rejoice at the 'change' and lament on how antiquated 'hot corners' are (since they do harken to a time of low, single resolution displays)


I hate hot corners. I can't stand them. They throw me off and they're always in my way. Those are the first things I disable in Mac OS X and Gnome 3 (the bottom right hand one anyway). I'd say we were making progress if they introduced the taskbar to us today. No swipes or extra clicks needed.

#220 Growled

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 01:16

It is hard for us to understand the general public.


I think it's very hard for some to understand that a lot of people don't get computers. Some people just use them for basic tasks and don't want to put much into using them. These people have a few set tasks memorized and they can almost do simple tasks. The problem arises when something like Windows 8 comes along and these people have to throw what little they know out the window (sorry for the pun).

#221 xWhiplash

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:02

I think it's very hard for some to understand that a lot of people don't get computers. Some people just use them for basic tasks and don't want to put much into using them. These people have a few set tasks memorized and they can almost do simple tasks. The problem arises when something like Windows 8 comes along and these people have to throw what little they know out the window (sorry for the pun).


Agreed. And if those people work where they use computers, they are mostly using Windows XP or Windows 7. It is difficult for some people to keep switching back and forth like that.