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[Largey]

This topic is to see neowins opinion whether or not moores law will be infinitely increasing.


In we are already seeing a slowing down of moores law computer power cannot maintain its increasing power due to today's silicon chips. The problems are heat and leakage, a Pentium today has layers of about 20 atoms across if it gets down to 5 it will start to decentigrade. Quantum theory takes over the Heisenberg principle says that the electron cannot be found anymore at this level, there is an ultimate limit due to thermodynamics and set by quantum mechanics by how much computing power can be put out by silicon.


So Neowinians is moores law infinite or not? I gave you my part you give me yours.

[1941]

They will find something to replace Silicon and the Rare Earth Elements used will take Technology to places it has never been.

[yxz]

infinitely increasing?
No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law#Ultimate_limits_of_the_law

[Richteralan]

I don't think there's anything to debate.

Nothing can be infinitely increasing. Nothing.

[astropheed]

Richteralan, on 23 January 2013 - 03:20, said:

I don't think there's anything to debate.

Nothing can be infinitely increasing. Nothing.

Some people think that it's theoretically possible that the Universe can. Not only is that something, it's everything.

[Salutary7]

There are plenty of phenomena that at first appear to follow an exponential growth curve. But given time it usually ends up looking more like an S-curve (http://en.wikipedia....igmoid_function)

[Largey]

yxz, on 23 January 2013 - 03:14, said:

infinitely increasing?
No.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law#Ultimate_limits_of_the_law

What if its not silicon based could be protein based, DNA computers, optical computers, quantum computers, molecular computers.... possibilitys are limitless.

on the subject of molecular computers if our brain were a hard drive it would hold "around 2.5 petabytes (or a million gigabytes)" imagine if our brain were a computer processor...

[Salutary7]

Largey, on 23 January 2013 - 03:44, said:

What if its not silicon based could be protein based, DNA computers, optical computers, quantum computers, molecular computers.... possibilitys are limitless.

on the subject of molecular computers if our brain were a hard drive it would hold "around 2.5 petabytes (or a million gigabytes)" imagine if our brain were a computer processor...

There's definitely quite a lot of potential in new types of computers--molecular, quantum, etc.--but by their nature, they're actually quite bad at many of the tasks we normally associate with processor performance, such as FLOPs. I'd wager we will still see extensions to Moore's Law apply to those new types of computers, but they won't be a continuation of the current trend. Rather, we'll see new beginnings as we figure out how to get them working for specialized problems that traditional processors struggle with.

[Richteralan]

astropheed, on 23 January 2013 - 03:25, said:

Some people think that it's theoretically possible that the Universe can. Not only is that something, it's everything.

That's just one theory.

[+Asik]

Of course Moore's Law isn't sustainable simply because atoms have a constant finite size, that's a hard physical limit. What I think is that we'll find some radically new processing technologies, perhaps not even transistor-based, that'll allow pushing computation beyond the limits of silicon.