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It would be fair to call Apple's Mac Pro the black sheep of the company

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Well doesn't that just go to show the 'i pay more for better equipment' argument is right out the window.
Mac equipment is just about on par or even below (In terms of meeting basic law requirements) much cheaper PC equipment, pretty hilarious!

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[quote name='n_K' timestamp='1359670159' post='595493372']
Well doesn't that just go to show the 'i pay more for better equipment' argument is right out the window.
Mac equipment is just about on par or even below (In terms of meeting basic law requirements) much cheaper PC equipment, pretty hilarious!
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It's unlikely that breaching this law says anything about the quality of the Mac Pro. I'm not sure how you're reaching that conclusion.

That's like saying no car that goes faster than 70mph in the UK is any good because the maximum speed you can lawfully go in a car is 70mph...

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[quote name='Hardcore Til I Die' timestamp='1359670525' post='595493376']
It's unlikely that breaching this law says anything about the quality of the Mac Pro. I'm not sure how you're reaching that conclusion.

That's like saying no car that goes faster than 70mph in the UK is any good because the maximum speed you can lawfully go in a car is 70mph...
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No it's not. EU IEC laws exist for various reasons, mostly health and safety reasons.
http://webstore.iec.ch/preview/info_iec60950-1%7Bed2.0%7Den_d.pdf
This is about mac pros NOT meeting the legal safety laws, so yes, it [b]does[/b] say something about their quality.

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Good-night, sweet prince.

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Macbook Pro Prices are ridiculous.

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even if it is just in the EU right now, I can see Apple eventually discontinuing the entire Pro line of macs... they did that to the xserve a few years ago, I see the Mac Pro next, they already left the low end laptop market and replaced that with the Macbook air... now your choices are becoming severly limited...

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[quote name='n_K' timestamp='1359671050' post='595493384']
No it's not. EU IEC laws exist for various reasons, mostly health and safety reasons.
[url="http://webstore.iec.ch/preview/info_iec60950-1%7Bed2.0%7Den_d.pdf"]http://webstore.iec....d2.0%7Den_d.pdf[/url]
This is about mac pros NOT meeting the legal safety laws, so yes, it [b]does[/b] say something about their quality.
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No. It says something about their not meeting legal safety laws, not about their quality.

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[quote name='Hardcore Til I Die' timestamp='1359673616' post='595493460']
No. It says something about their not meeting legal safety laws, not about their quality.
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The ammendments have been out for many years before a date of being passed through was set - that's how it works with these laws, you get companies and scientists commenting on possible ideas, then on if they should be passed through and when, it was agreed in 2010 that these amendments would be passed through, if apple hasn't bothered to apply something as univerally known or basic as this, what else are they not bothering to do? One bad thing usually means there's more bad things, ignoring upcoming legislation is a sign of very bad workmanship and quality.

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Thing is apple neglected their professional customers....

They stopped making server hardware

They have zero datacenter presence now as a result. (not legally allowed to run OSX Server in a VM outside of a mac hardware product)

Then they completely screwed up Final Cut Pro and that ****ed off lots of professional film makers. The leading reality show production company Bunim/Murray was one of the many companies that called apple out on the problems and they switched to Avid's solutions. They also needed upgrades for Xserve RAID but apple discontinued that as well. So companies like them turned to other solutions. [url="http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/01/more-fcpx-fallout-top-reality-producer-ditches-apple-for-avid/"]http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/01...pple-for-avid/[/url]

This is the main thing that really bothers me about apple. Those customers made apple what they are today.... those are the ones that stuck with them thru the bad times and kept them afloat... then they totally crapped on them.[/font][/color][color=#000000][font=verdana, geneva, lucida,]
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In the case of the Mac Pro it's a crime Apple is still selling 2010 hardware (don't start with me about that non-update from past summer) for prices as if it's brand new.
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[quote name='neufuse' timestamp='1359672292' post='595493428']
even if it is just in the EU right now, I can see Apple eventually discontinuing the entire Pro line of macs... they did that to the xserve a few years ago, I see the Mac Pro next, they already left the low end laptop market and replaced that with the Macbook air... now your choices are becoming severly limited...
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Apple has stated they're working on a new Mac Pro that will come out in 2013.

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Apple doesn't care about what you and I want and/or need as customers. They don't listen to anybody, much less their customers. They do what they want, how they want, when they want. Getting rid of CD ROM units on the iMacs and Laptops line was a stupid idea to say the least. Whether some people like it or not, we still need CD ROM units. Now anyone who buys a new fancy iMac or Apple laptop has to buy an external CDROM or Blu-Ray unit if they want to burn CDs or Blu-Ray. How stupid is that? But you know what's even more amazing? They cut out the media drive to reduce cost and size but the price of the iMacs and Macbooks didn't get any lower!!!!!!....So what was the point of "reducing cost" then if they are not going to pass the lower cost to the customers by offering the Macs at a lower price now that the media device is gone?

LOL

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1359672239' post='595493424']
Macbook Pro Prices are ridiculous.
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I snagged a Macbook Pro Early 2011 15 inch i7 8GB for $500 :D

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1359675379' post='595493506']
Apple doesn't care about what you and I want and/or need as customers. They don't listen to anybody, much less their customers. They do what they want, how they want, when they want. Getting rid of CD ROM units on the iMacs and Laptops line was a stupid idea to say the least. Whether some people like it or not, we still need CD ROM units. Now anyone who buys a new fancy iMac or Apple laptop has to buy an external CDROM or Blu-Ray unit if they want to burn CDs or Blu-Ray. How stupid is that? But you know what's even more amazing? They cut out the media drive to reduce cost and size but the price of the iMacs and Macbooks didn't get any lower!!!!!!....So what was the point of "reducing cost" then if they are not going to pass the lower cost to the customers by offering the Macs at a lower price now that the media device is gone?

LOL
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Where did they say they were removing drives to cut costs? Removing the drive was to make it thinner, lighter, increase battery life and not waste space, for a component lots of people rarely even use, that could be used for something else. You don't see a decrease in cost because it's more expensive to engineer thinner machines

There are plenty of Ultrabooks from other brands that don't have optical drives and can be plenty expensive as well, not just Apple. The Apple machines are still very expensive, but that's not something new.
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Exactly.

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I wonder why Apple doesn't bother to bring it up to code? Not selling enough?

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I think this is just reflective of Apple shifting its focus to consumer products.

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[quote name='virtorio' timestamp='1359675231' post='595493500']
Apple has stated they're working on a new Mac Pro that will come out in 2013.
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and I said eventually.... which is the future, not a specific point in time..

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i still love my mac pro.

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[i]Thread Cleaned[/i]

If this can't be discussed in a mature manner, the thread will be closed.

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