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The New Firefox Cookie Policy

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[quote]"Stanford researcher Jonathan Mayer has contributed a Firefox patch that will block third-party cookies by default. It's now on track to land in version 22. Kudos to Mozilla for protecting their users and being so open to community submissions. The initial response from the online advertising industry is unsurprisingly hostile and blustering, calling the move 'a nuclear first strike.'"[/quote]

source: [url="http://webpolicy.org/2013/02/22/the-new-firefox-cookie-policy/"]webpolicy[/url]



Uh, good. Forget the online advertising industry. Online ads should basically be billboards, that's it. No sounds, no hijacking browser or pages or popping up, no tracking.

Just an image, embedded somewhere in a webpage. I don't know why they think any other type makes anybody view their businesses more favourably; honestly if your image ad didnt catch my eye I probably dont give a shiggity diggity doo about your product.

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Version 22 ? Good grief --- how many more do we need ?

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[quote name='Hum' timestamp='1361668821' post='595539612']
Version 22 ? Good grief --- how many more do we need ?
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Ask Google and their Chrome that.

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"Stanford researcher Jonathan Mayer has contributed a Firefox patch that will block third-party cookies by default."
Obviously never used web developer which has had this feature in-built since it's first incarnation years ago.
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[quote name='n_K' timestamp='1361669181' post='595539626']
"Stanford researcher Jonathan Mayer has contributed a Firefox patch that will block third-party cookies by default."
Obviously never used[b] web developer[/b] which has had this feature in-built since it's first incarnation years ago.
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I don't understand

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I am using Fx 21 now, If they block cookies then a Neowin User will have to login every time he shuts down Firefox. I can block cookies as it is now, just by making it default does not mean that users will keep it that way.

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I've had 3rd party cookies blocked for ages, some things do break (Like Disquis or whatever it's called) but it's also great to see all the random tracking stuff never gets placed on my system. But a nicer method that was described was to make 3rd party cookies only apply to the embedded domain (That is, Site A and B embed Facebook, Facebook can set any cookies on A and B, but can only read the A version of A, the B version on B, etc.)

I also have an extension for spoofing/blocking the HTTP "referer" header, since that's very rarely used properly (It's mostly used for tracking purposes and restricting access to links from certain domains and such)

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[quote name='Gary7' timestamp='1361671937' post='595539728']
I am using Fx 21 now, If they block cookies then a Neowin User will have to login every time he shuts down Firefox. I can block cookies as it is now, just by making it default does not mean that users will keep it that way.
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You should look up the definition of third-party

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[quote name='Gary7' timestamp='1361671937' post='595539728']
I am using Fx 21 now, If they block cookies then a Neowin User will have to login every time he shuts down Firefox. I can block cookies as it is now, just by making it default does not mean that users will keep it that way.
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This just landed on the latest hourly which I am now running. Closing Fx and starting it does not require me to login to Neowin. Your understanding of 3rd party cookies needs some enlightenment.

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[quote name='streetw0lf' timestamp='1361672226' post='595539738']
This just landed on the latest hourly which I am now running. Closing Fx and starting it does not require me to login to Neowin.
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Clear all of your cookies and then try it. I thought this was not landing until 22?

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[quote name='Gary7' timestamp='1361671937' post='595539728']
I am using Fx 21 now, If they block cookies then a Neowin User will have to login every time he shuts down Firefox. I can block cookies as it is now, just by making it default does not mean that users will keep it that way.
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You wont have to login every time. It will block 3rd party cookies, ones that don't originate from the same domain your on.

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[quote name='exotoxic' timestamp='1361672419' post='595539746']
You wont have to login every time. It will block 3rd party cookies, ones that don't originate from the same domain your on.
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Sorry, I misread the OP. I thought for some reason it was going to block all cookies by default. :/

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[quote name='Gary7' timestamp='1361672335' post='595539740']
Clear all of your cookies and then try it. I thought this was not landing until 22?
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I'm on Fx 220a1
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OMG, I must be losing it. So am I. :argh: :argh: :argh:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20130223 Firefox/22.0
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I found [url="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818340"]the bug[/url] for this, turns out it's not "3rd party cookies" it's "3rd party cookies from unknown domains". So if you've visited the 3rd party that wants to set cookies then Firefox will allow it.

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[quote name='The_Decryptor' timestamp='1361673352' post='595539774']
I found [url="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=818340"]the bug[/url] for this, turns out it's not "3rd party cookies" it's "3rd party cookies from unknown domains". So if you've visited the 3rd party that wants to set cookies then Firefox will allow it.
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Not if you block third party cookies.

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[quote] 3rd party cookies blocked for ages[/quote]
yea, this has been possible since IE 6 SP1,
and this stuff are new for firefoxers ?
[img]http://sadpanda.us/images/1430479-EIV5OP0.png[/img]

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I'm ahead of all of you! I'm using Firefox Version 36!
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[quote name='Torolol' timestamp='1361673772' post='595539788']
yea, this has been possible since IE 6 SP1,
and this stuff are new for firefoxers ?
[img]http://sadpanda.us/images/1430479-EIV5OP0.png[/img]
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You can do the same with Firefox as far back as I can remember. No it is not new.

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[quote name='humanz.' timestamp='1361669940' post='595539656']
I don't understand
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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/web-developer/?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Web_Developer_Extension_%28external%29
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[quote name='Gary7' timestamp='1361672925' post='595539760']
OMG, I must be losing it. So am I. :argh: :argh: :argh:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20130223 Firefox/22.0
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Grab this hourly and you'll have it. [url="http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-central-win32/1361667643/"]http://ftp.mozilla.o...n32/1361667643/[/url]
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^ Thanks but I will wait till it hits the Nightly. :)

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There goes Mozilla next paycheck...Google just called about doubleclick.

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[quote name='cetla' timestamp='1361676083' post='595539836']
There goes Mozilla next paycheck...Google just called about doubleclick.
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So what, mozilla don't owe them a damn thing.

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Modern internet is run on scams, viruses, scareware, and tracking which we simply refer by the politically correct term "advertisements"

You can't go against the machine.

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