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#1 usuz

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:02

No wonder Microsoft made those Google doc's video's. They are loosing customer and Google is a real threat.

Source http://www.bostonglo...Pw4O/story.html

Boston has dropped its longstanding e-mail system, Microsoft Exchange, for Google Apps, the search giant’s suite of software for businesses and government, following the lead of a growing number of big cities, federal agencies, and large companies that have made the switch.
Even though Menino has resisted writing — or even reading — e-mails, banned voicemail from City Hall until recently, and can’t find his way around an iPhone, he has certainly made technology a major focus of his administration. He renamed a section of South Boston the Innovation District, and has personally wooed technology companies to move there, adopted a number of computer tools and mobile apps to improve public services, and his police officers are even tweeting crime updates.
“We are continuing to drive it forward,” said Bill Oates, Boston’s chief information officer. “We’ve been ready, willing, and able to leverage any of these new capabilities.”


The city estimated it costs about $100 a year per employee to use its current roster of ­Microsoft products.


It’s not just the gee whiz factor: It’s also a matter of money. It will cost Boston around $800,000 to move over to Gmail, Google Docs for word processing, and Google’s cloud service for storing documents. But by dropping some Microsoft products, the city government will save at least $280,000 a year.
“The number one reason that organizations are going to Google is price,” said Matt Cain, an analyst at the tech research firm Gartner Inc.
What’s more, Cain said, Google’s contract terms are much simpler than dealing with Microsoft. And since Google updates its software via the Internet, which Microsoft only recently started doing with some of its products, it means clients won’t be working for years on outdated applications.
While Microsoft remains the dominant player in business software, Cain said Google is becoming a “threat to Microsoft’s hegemony.”
To be sure, Microsoft is not taking Google’s incursion into its territory lightly, and has questioned whether Google is a safe enough service for storing sensitive government documents.
“We believe the citizens of Boston deserve cloud productivity tools that protect their security and privacy,” a Microsoft spokesman said in an e-mail to the Globe. “Google’s investments in these areas are inadequate, and they lack the proper protections most organizations require.”
Boston officials said they vetted Google and are satisfied with the security protections that come with Google Apps for e-mail and document storage. Also, Boston isn’t completely cutting ties with Microsoft, as it will continue to use its other products, such as the Windows operating system on its PCs.
Boston is not alone in making the change. The US Department of the Interior, the state of Colorado, and Princeton University have, too. (The New York Times, owner of the Boston Globe, is also planning to move to Google software from Microsoft Exchange.) Google said that some 5 million businesses around the world are now using its cloud applications.
The Gmail that businesses and government use doesn’t look much different from what consumers use free of charge. Some key differences include much larger storage for e-mail, and business and government customers won’t see ads based on key words within e-mails. The cost for businesses and governments is roughly $50 per user per year. Google doesn’t charge public schools for use of its apps.
The city estimated it costs about $100 a year per employee to use its current roster of ­Microsoft products.
For the city’s employees, it might take some getting used to the new Google applications. After all, many of these people have spent entire careers working on Microsoft software. But the city said the digital transition will take about a year.
“Anyone with a current Gmail account will not have much trouble transitioning,” said David Nero, director of technology for Boston.




#2 Stoffel

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:08

Lets see how long before they come crawling back to MS

#3 threetonesun

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:13

Is Google business different than the personal applications? Because if not, it seems like the cost savings really wouldn't pan out compared to using Exchange and Outlook.

#4 HawkMan

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:13

Lets see how long before they come crawling back to MS


Lets see how long untill they are forced to switch back due to security concerns like all the other government groups who's tried this as well.

to bad this is all pushed by pencil pushers and bureaucrats to start with and not based on user wishes and genuine productivity concerns.

#5 OP usuz

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:15

Lets see how long before they come crawling back to MS

This has been going on for very long time. crawling back to MS wont happen anytime soon as long as google improve the service

http://9to5google.co...ve-2m-annually/

http://9to5google.co...atures-in-2011/

#6 HawkMan

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:24

This has been going on for very long time. crawling back to MS wont happen anytime soon as long as google improve the service

http://9to5google.co...ve-2m-annually/

http://9to5google.co...atures-in-2011/


And most of them have gone back to either regular MS office due to better quality and security concerns with googles offline storage and them giving anyone asking access to documents, or to Office 365 for those that want the cloud option.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:26

20K Users. I don't think MS will even feel a dent in their wallet.

The only way they won't go back is because the people in charge of making the switch will try to not eat CROW and force them to use it and make them work around it instead of accepting defeat.



#8 Stoffel

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:30

This has been going on for very long time. crawling back to MS wont happen anytime soon as long as google improve the service

http://9to5google.co...ve-2m-annually/

http://9to5google.co...atures-in-2011/


Google will have to improve a lot.
I read a lot of stories about companies moving away from MS, and then a couple of months later you read the exact opposite story.
MS is just to good for business.

#9 OP usuz

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:31

And most of them have gone back to either regular MS office due to better quality and security concerns with googles offline storage and them giving anyone asking access to documents, or to Office 365 for those that want the cloud option.

proof?

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:31

Congrats for Google, but don't over-hype it as some "mass exodus" please.. Microsoft's picking up new clients too. It's even on the front page here, just a few random recent examples..
A few city governments in the US - http://www.neowin.ne...s-to-office-365
A few schools in the EU - http://www.neowin.ne...s-to-office-365
More US governments - http://www.neowin.ne...-heart-of-texas
That's just a few examples just skimming the front page, and doesn't include their other business services of course.. Yammer for example increased 265 percent, etc, never mind any "switch backs".

I'm sure Microsoft will get over it.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:31

“The number one reason that organizations are going to Google is price,” said Matt Cain, an analyst at the tech research firm Gartner Inc.


You get what you pay for.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 23:44

to bad this is all pushed by pencil pushers and bureaucrats to start with and not based on user wishes and genuine productivity concerns.


Since when were user wishes ever considered to much. And I am sure there were more insight in to this that pencil pushers.

With pretty much everyone worried about saving a buck these days, MS needs to offer cheaper solutions or they are going to lose more customers. Especially when there are cheaper alternatives available. And regardless how anyone feels about Google, its competition for MS and its competition that fuels innovation and good products.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 02:24

And since Google updates its software via the Internet, which Microsoft only recently started doing with some of its products, it means clients won’t be working for years on outdated applications.

What? MS has made updates available for their products via the internet since like I dunno Windows ME?

The problem is that companies are often quite unwilling to update their software unless they really need to, and often resist forced updating.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 03:00

The problem is that companies are often quite unwilling to update their software unless they really need to, and often resist forced updating.


Cost has a lot to do with it as well. Most companies cannot afford to update every Windows/office release. Its just expensive and no more than ever, people are looking hard at the money they spend.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 03:04

feel sorry for the geniuses that came up with the plan. too bad they will lose their jobs soon enough once they realize what kind of mess they got themselves in to. wait until one of these guys opens up a powerpoint to do a presentation.