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    Neowinian

  • Joined: 04-October 12
  • Location: Chesapeake, VA
  • OS: Windows 8
  • Phone: Windows Phone 8 - Nokia Lumia 920

Posted 19 May 2013 - 20:53

So, I ended up moving my phone back to Android. Windows Phone 8 is lacking some serious customization that I require.


I had the Lumia since late last year and here is my top list for Windows Phone 8/Lumia 920 (It wouldn't be fair to say things that either iOS/Android doesn't do, so I won't):
* VPN. This is a must for me and my work. Android and iOS have had it for years. This is a windows phone!
* Every time I use Pandora, if a Bluetooth device connects, it starts, if it disconnects, it starts again. So, I can pause the music. Get out of my car and my phone starts blaring whatever song was on.
* Pandora app doesn't work with my car (Chevy Volt)
* USAA application disappeared and I deposit checks with it.
* Finding an address is easier on Android for me. I simply say the address and it goes there. I don't have the same experience on the Window's phone.
* I feel very restricted when developing an application for Window's devices.

Good luck Microsoft. I wish you would open your platform up more. I feel like I am in jail. The same really goes for Windows 8. I think App permissions is very important and should always be part of the experience. But, to limit these permissions is a mistake. The coolest things really come from developers hacking devices.

So, I'm going back to developing for Android. I'll miss Visual Studio as it is a great studio.

For reference, I have developed some simple applications for both platforms that have some downloads. My most popular application was City Caller ID for Android. It was pulled due to patent restrictions. But, I still love that I could make an application that can do these things! This is simply not possible on Windows Phone or iOS.

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    Neowinian

  • Joined: 04-October 12
  • Location: Chesapeake, VA
  • OS: Windows 8
  • Phone: Windows Phone 8 - Nokia Lumia 920

Posted 20 May 2013 - 00:53

One other thing I forgot to add. I hate the single volume for everything on the phone. I like to have different volumes for Bluetooth, speakers, and phone.

#3 Enron

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  • Joined: 30-May 11
  • OS: Windows 8.1 U1
  • Phone: Nokia Lumia 900

Posted 20 May 2013 - 00:56

Is this a rant post or what?

Why does everyone need to make a post when they change what product they use? Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

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#4 Iridium

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:20

Ooo i like that door, but serious he is right. Windows Phone 8 is just very limiting. I got my GF the 820 and you cant seem to control anything. Its left me feeling terrible for purchasing it for her.

#5 Hitman2000

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:41

Yeh windows 8 phone is fine for the average consumer who just wants to make calls/text, browse facebook and play angry birds
much like iphone

once you get used to custom roms and the cutomisability of android its very hard to go back

for example i tried a lumia 800 for a few months

I had to always use skydrive to upload my documents to the phone, why the hell couldnt i just do drag and drop from WINDOWS DESKTOP, i can do it on my android phone... same with music and video files, why do i have to sync with zune all the time /itunes with iphone.
I couldnt have individual volumes as you point out
i couldnt figure out how to have custom ringtone or text tone
i coulnt change the vibration styles for calls and messages ( a nokia from 2002 can do this...)
there was no way to set do not disturb times
there was no easy way to access airplane mode,and other settings (compared to the pull down notification bar in android)
there was no light notification for missed calls/texts, you have to turn on the screen to check
there was no easy file browser/explorer
lack of apps

these are just the thing i can think of right now

i felt very limited on the lumia,

#6 Growled

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:09

Congratulations on the switch. I know you'll be much happier with Android.

#7 vcfan

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:34

good for you. complaining about certain features or limitations that existed and you knew about before you purchased the device is just a whiny thing to do. i hope you enjoy your malware,and info stealing apps, useless back button, the lag and choppiness,and horrible IDE compared to a world class one.

#8 Raa

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:37

I got a HTC One as well, I really enjoy the device! Great move. (Y)

#9 basques

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:41

I did the exactly same thing after using my lumia 920 for 4 months. I love the HTC one.

#10 +Martog

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:50

Yeh windows 8 phone is fine for the average consumer who just wants to make calls/text, browse facebook and play angry birds
much like iphone

once you get used to custom roms and the cutomisability of android its very hard to go back

for example i tried a lumia 800 for a few months

I had to always use skydrive to upload my documents to the phone, why the hell couldnt i just do drag and drop from WINDOWS DESKTOP, i can do it on my android phone... same with music and video files, why do i have to sync with zune all the time /itunes with iphone.
i couldnt figure out how to have custom ringtone or text tone
there was no easy way to access airplane mode,and other settings (compared to the pull down notification bar in android)
there was no light notification for missed calls/texts, you have to turn on the screen to check
there was no easy file browser/explorer
lack of apps

these are just the thing i can think of right now

i felt very limited on the lumia,


Not sure how WP 7.X worked, but in 8 you can connect it to the PC and file browse the device to drag an drop items, like documents, videos, music, etc.
WP 8 can do custom ringtone, no text/mail/etc yet.
Airplane mode on 8 can be access via the settings app, or there's apps that can pin it right to the screen to get easy access (I believe NFC can do the same to open certain things)
The light notification, guess I'm a person who hasn't missed that since I had a Blackerry and switched to iPhone and now to Windows Phone 8.
Lack of apps, I guess it depends on what you are missing. Honestly out of the 181 applications I have for my iPhone, I used maybe less than 10 on a regular basis. Everything I need to do on a daily basis I have on my Lumia 928.

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    Neowinian

  • Joined: 04-October 12
  • Location: Chesapeake, VA
  • OS: Windows 8
  • Phone: Windows Phone 8 - Nokia Lumia 920

Posted 20 May 2013 - 14:02

Is this a rant post or what?

Why does everyone need to make a post when they change what product they use? Don't let the door hit you on your way out.


I am a huge Microsoft fan. I don't think I am alone here. I was able to get 5 other people to switch to the Lumia 920 just based off the camera. Of those 5, two already went back to Android also. (Just an FYI)

I posted because I believe it is important that Microsoft see why they weren't able to keep me on their phone platform. Especially a die hard MS fan who used Windows 8 from last BUILD conference.

#12 Art3x

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 14:16

good for you. complaining about certain features or limitations that existed and you knew about before you purchased the device is just a whiny thing to do. i hope you enjoy your malware,and info stealing apps, useless back button, the lag and choppiness,and horrible IDE compared to a world class one.


I'm assuming by his post he's not some brain dead user who just installs things randomly so I think he'll avoid malware etc.

I have a SII Skyrocket, and I have no lag or choppiness and my back button is far from useless. You could always address his very clearly stated issues...

#13 BajiRav

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  • Phone: Lumia 920

Posted 20 May 2013 - 14:16

* VPN. This is a must for me and my work. Android and iOS have had it for years. This is a windows phone!
* Every time I use Pandora, if a Bluetooth device connects, it starts, if it disconnects, it starts again. So, I can pause the music. Get out of my car and my phone starts blaring whatever song was on.
* Pandora app doesn't work with my car (Chevy Volt)
* USAA application disappeared and I deposit checks with it.
* Finding an address is easier on Android for me. I simply say the address and it goes there. I don't have the same experience on the Window's phone.
* I feel very restricted when developing an application for Window's devices.

Good luck Microsoft. I wish you would open your platform up more. I feel like I am in jail. The same really goes for Windows 8. I think App permissions is very important and should always be part of the experience. But, to limit these permissions is a mistake. The coolest things really come from developers hacking devices.

So, I'm going back to developing for Android. I'll miss Visual Studio as it is a great studio.

For reference, I have developed some simple applications for both platforms that have some downloads. My most popular application was City Caller ID for Android. It was pulled due to patent restrictions. But, I still love that I could make an application that can do these things! This is simply not possible on Windows Phone or iOS.

http://phandroid.com...ed-from-market/

- I honestly don't understand why Microsoft didn't do VPN instead of useless features such as Rooms and NFC
- I haven't had problem with Pandora but then I don't use it over bluetooth. Is that an app bug or API limitation? What do you mean it doesn't work with Chevy Volt? (bluetooth profile?)
- Nokia needs to enable voice commands in their HERE suite asap. I agree with this (although Google maps is next to useless if you lose signal where HERE maps shine. I think offline is much better with HERE which is more important than voice)
- Not sure what you mean by "I feel very restricted". You can always work with XDA community to work outside of what Microsoft allows, right?

Edit: To add to my "useless features" rant, these features need to be implemented before they do anymore fluff
- Notification management (with or without a center). For example, I use whatsapp but I don't want it to bother me with push notifications. Customize notification alerts for sound and/or display.
- Multitasking - fix it. I don't care if the apps are capable or not just ****ing fix the primitive multitasking.
- Different sound controls for ringer, music etc. It simply amazes me they haven't done for nearly 3 years now.
- Basic customization such as custom alert sounds is missing, why?

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    Neowinian

  • Joined: 04-October 12
  • Location: Chesapeake, VA
  • OS: Windows 8
  • Phone: Windows Phone 8 - Nokia Lumia 920

Posted 20 May 2013 - 15:07

- Not sure what you mean by "I feel very restricted". You can always work with XDA community to work outside of what Microsoft allows, right?


- I like being able to load non-market applications by allowing it in a settings area. Yes, I am a developer. But this is a pain in the butt when I want friends to beta my stuff. I have done the email beta thing on the Microsoft Store. Just is not as easy as emailing an apk for them to try.
- I can mess with the OS internals on Android.

Honestly though. My biggest gripe as a developer. DirectX is not the most fun to program in C++. I like to make indie games in my spare time and Android has a better basis for them. I'm not a programming team with crazy resources. While I know things like Monogame help (although just getting the game to do landscape is a challenge), it is not the best solution yet.



#15 Dashel

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 15:18

Good, we surely don't want WP twisted up for people like you who want to treat your phadlet like a mini-PC.

VPN, lol.