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#16 +techbeck

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 23:00

The world would be better off if people were less nosy. What was strange about this? A father making sure his kids were safe by strapping them in to the car? Or the fact that their kids looked a different, or a different color, than their father. Even if they were not his biological kids, ever heard of adoption? Basic ignorance on Walmart security. I never once looked at a biracial couple and their kids and was suspicious or questioned whether or not they were kidnapped.


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 23:07

honestly you don't know what the story could have been? really?????


No, I don't, I'm sorry but if I see a black parent with white kids or vice versa my thoughts in order would be:

1) adopted kids
2) mixed couple
...... 9997 other thoughts
10000) oh noes, only explanation is that that guy kidnapped them, let's call the police!

I don't know, maybe I'm abnormal, but I like to think not everyone is a rapist, pedophile or kidnapper.

Maybe there was a biracial kid who was kidnapped recently? WalMart does have an amber alert list in all their stores and someone or the guard decided to call it in?


Then they could have relayed that information to the parents, it would have made a lot more sense in that case

I am shocked and not sure how you could not see what this story was about. It was about the possibility of kidnapping.


Great, you changed your reply, my question remains, what nature would that be? What was it that made the guy a suspect?

Was it because he was a father with young daughters doing groceries instead of the mom? That would be sexist, we're not living in the fifties anymore
Was it because his children had a different colour than him? That's racist, again, not living in the fifties anymore.

So if it is all so clear to you, explain it to me please

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 23:17

So if it is all so clear to you, explain it to me please

it is perfectly clear to some... and cloudy for others. I have kids, all older and grown, but will be having 2 more. I HOPE that someday, if my kids are ever kidnapped by someone, that someone like this security guard has the sense to call it in, even if it's in error.

but I like to think not everyone is a rapist, pedophile or kidnapper.

Can you tell a difference? How?

Great, you changed your reply, my question remains, what nature would that be? What was it that made the guy a suspect?

dude, read the story and you will see, POSSIBLE KIDNAPPING... It turns out it wasn't. I don't know how much clear more someone can be. What makes someone a suspect? An event. action, or circumstance that leads one to believe the possibility of a crime had been/is being committed by an individual. To this guard, it was his wrong opinion that something about this situation was wrong. That's it, just a simple error.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 23:18

it is perfectly clear to some... and cloudy for others. I have kids, all older and grown, but will be having 2 more. I HOPE that someday, if my kids are ever kidnapped by someone, that someone like this security guard has the sense to call it in, even if it's in error.


Nothing in the story indicated that there was an alert that a kidnapping had recently occurred. If there was an amber alert, I am sure it would of been mentioned in the story. With what was givin in the OP, the security guard was an ignorant fool and got to nosy. Now, if they were going off an amber alert...sure, kudos to the security guard but nothing indicates they were doing so.


And this is....interesting....

Keana says she was told, "Well, the customer was concerned because they saw the children with your husband and he didn't think that they fit. And I said, ‘What do you mean by they don't fit?’ And I was trying to get her to say it. And she says, ‘Well, they just don't match up.’”


So again, ignorance on the person who reported the "problem"


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 23:39

I've often seen young kids with grandparents, or an uncle.

They really don't 'look' alike, related.

Should I be calling the police all the time .... :rolleyes:

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 23:41

Nothing in the story indicated that there was an alert that a kidnapping had recently occurred. If there was an amber alert, I am sure it would of been mentioned in the story. With what was givin in the OP, the security guard was an ignorant fool and got to nosy. Now, if they were going off an amber alert...sure, kudos to the security guard but nothing indicates they were doing so.


And this is....interesting....



So again, ignorance on the person who reported the "problem"

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Imagine if it was true? would you still feel the same way? I am betting yes you would. I am not saying the guard was right, some people have VERY wacky views, and his was wrong. For me, I give no one the benefit of the doubt. I deal with the needy (and criminal element) almost everyday. When things go wrong/missing/not seemingly right in my line of volunteer work then you do your quick calculations in your head and come up with tons of viable possible scenarios and suspects, for me, most of the time my "gut feeling" is correct but occasionally it is sometimes wrong too. It could be just my nature not to believe what you see. If I seen something off like a man who didn't suit the children, I too would get suspicious. And before you play the race card, don't. My brown friends outnumber my white friends 10 to 1 as well as my finance being Asian.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 23:47

Imagine if it was true? would you still feel the same way?


There was nothing/no indication they were suspected of a kidnapping or that a kidnapping was reported. They just didnt "look right" together. I have a mixed race nephew and neice and if a cop came up to me and asked me to prove my relationship to him, I would tell him to shove it. I have nothing to prove and no one has any right to question my family or my relationship to them without proof of any wrong doing. And "not looking right" is just an ignorant reason and can come off as the person being racist or again, ignorant.

And before you play the race card, don't.


Now why would you expect/guess/assume I would play the race card here? Did anything I replied to you about give you the opinion that I would place the race card? I was commenting the the person who reported this to the cops and their ignorance.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 23:50

Now why would you expect/guess/assume I would play the race card here? Did anything I replied to you about give you the opinion that I would place the race card? I was commenting the the person who reported this to the cops and their ignorance.

call it a "gut" feeling... sue me.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 00:03

No one is at fault here; someone saw something that they felt wasn't right and they did they right thing and alerted the police. The police in turn also did the right thing by not over reacting and asking the kids to point out their mother and father and that was it.

I'd rather have them call it in and be nothing; than then ignore their gut feeling at it be something real bad.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 00:52

Nothing in the story indicated that there was an alert that a kidnapping had recently occurred. If there was an amber alert, I am sure it would of been mentioned in the story. With what was givin in the OP, the security guard was an ignorant fool and got to nosy. Now, if they were going off an amber alert...sure, kudos to the security guard but nothing indicates they were doing so

To be fair it is a news article.

Father accuses WalMart of being racist sounds a lot better than security guard calling in a possible amber alert that was false.

Not saying that this was the case but it could very well have been. News stories can be very one sided at times.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 00:55

The first thing I do after I kidnap some children, is take them to a public place. It's SOP.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:25

Wal-Mart is getting entirely too nosy and controlling.

Their only purpose is to sell goods and services --not police the customers personal lives.

Some manager heads need to roll.


I thought the end of the story said it was actually a customer and NOT Walmart.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:32

You can call it racial profiling but better safe then sorry these days. We read about crazy **** everyday going on in this world so people need to keep their heads up. If I had to rate any public place where I thought some crazy whacked out **** might happen, Wal-Mart would be my #1 selection. I go there every week to grocery shop and I see some of the craziest, whacked out people, and that's just the employee's. :)

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:34

Joseph and Keana don’t plan to shop at Walmart again.


Don't blame the store for the actions of an idiot. That said, I hate Walmart. I would never go in if I didn't have to.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:45

.. and if it were white children, nobody would have noticed because "they matched up".

I've often seen young kids with grandparents, or an uncle.

They really don't 'look' alike, related.

Should I be calling the police all the time .... :rolleyes:

yes. yes you should. cause all grandparents are sketchy /s