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LOS ANGELES (AP) ? Astronauts traveling to and from Mars would be bombarded with as much radiation as they'd get from a full-body CT scan about once a week for a year, researchers reported Thursday.

That dose would, in some cases, exceed NASA's standards and is enough to raise an astronaut's cancer risk by 3 percent.

As plans for deep space exploration ramp up, radiation is a big concern ? from high-energy galactic cosmic rays spewed by distant supernova explosions to sporadic bursts of charged particles hurled by the sun. Earth's magnetic field helps to deflect much of that harmful radiation.

NASA aims to send a crew to orbit the red planet by the mid-2030s. Private outfits like Inspiration Mars ? backed by NASA engineer-turned-space tourist Dennis Tito ? are seeking volunteers for a Mars flight.

There have been previous efforts to gauge the radiation risk for future Mars travelers, but the best estimate is coming from NASA's Curiosity mission. Tucked inside the rover when it launched in 2011 was a radiation sensor that took readings during the 8 1/2-month cruise to Mars.

From those figures, scientists calculated a spacefarer's radiation exposure for a quicker six-month voyage in a similarly shielded spacecraft. Roundtrip: about 662 millisieverts. That's a sizable chunk of an astronaut's career cap of 1,000 millisieverts which many international space agencies use to limit the accumulated radiation dosage in space.

NASA's threshold depends on age and gender. The career dose limit for 30-to-60-year-old male astronauts who never smoked ranges from 800 to 1,200 millisieverts. For female astronauts, the limit ranges from 600 to 1,000 millisieverts.

The radiation exposure from a Mars journey is similar to getting a full-body CT scan every five or six days, said lead researcher Cary Zeitlin of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colo.

The estimate is just for zipping there and back; it doesn't include time spent on the Martian surface, which would add to an astronaut's exposure. How much more would depend on length of stay and available shelter.

"You'd like the radiation exposure to be lower, but it is what it is," said Dr. Norm Thagard, the first American to fly on the Russian space station Mir, who had no role in the research. "Given the importance of such a mission, the mission should be done."

The analysis appears in Friday's issue of the journal Science.

The amount of radiation likely won't change unless there's a rocket engine developed that can speed up the interplanetary ride, researchers said.

"You want to get there as quickly as possible" to reduce radiation exposure, said Don Hassler, scientist in charge of the radiation instrument aboard Curiosity.

Radiation on a Mars trek would be higher than what crew members cocooned inside the International Space Station typically face ? about 200 millisieverts per year. By contrast, people on Earth are typically exposed to about 3 millisieverts a year.

Curiosity flew to Mars during a period of low to moderate solar activity. A manned mission that launches during a solar flare or storm would encounter more radiation.

NASA engineers are testing propulsion systems and researching ways to reduce radiation exposure on a Mars flight. Among the possibilities: Have astronauts wear a deployable shield resembling a heavy winter coat or have them hunker down in a storm shelter aboard the spacecraft during periods of high solar activity.

"Before we can send astronauts there, we need to understand the environments and hazards that they would face" said Chris Moore, deputy director of advanced exploration systems at NASA headquarters.

Now, cancer-related risk estimates are "no more than a rough guesstimate," David Brenner, an expert on radiation-induced cancer at Columbia University.

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^ Ya think ?

The estimate is just for zipping there and back; it doesn't include time spent on the Martian surface, which would add to an astronaut's exposure.

Radiation on a Mars trek would be higher than what crew members cocooned inside the International Space Station typically face ? about 200 millisieverts per year. By contrast, people on Earth are typically exposed to about 3 millisieverts a year.

^ Metal shielding doesn't help that much.

The most dangerous flux un this was protons, a chargef particle that is susceptible to the ship having an artificial magnetosphere. NASA signed a deal recently with one of the most advanced high temperature superconducting magnet manufacturers to design, and possibly make, a prototype.

Speed can be handled by a VASIMR or other plasma drive (VASIMR heading to ISS for testing next year), or the proposed FPR fusion drive being tested at NASA this summer. Some of these would cut the trim to ~3 months.

Surely testing VASIMR to the ISS isn't going to show it's justice as it's a short distance compared. Wouldn't they be better off using the technology with another deep space satellite, like device.

I guess the technology is there, it's just cost like most things holding back.

Living on Mars still can't be ruled out just because of this, after all, there's no stopping living under the surface.

Just send a space adapted caterpillar digger :shifty:

I think they ought to send a camera as well as some plants first to see if they can start a more suitable atmosphere.

I vote kudzu and Cactus first.

Maybe also send Roaches as well... they say they can live through a nuclear war.

I mean first let us see if we can safely get life to and back from Mars first.

Surely testing VASIMR to the ISS isn't going to show it's justice as it's a short distance compared. Wouldn't they be better off using the technology with another deep space satellite, like device.

A 200kw testbed just to space qualify it. Other such testbeds sill be the NOFBX monopropellant and its engine, various sensors & cameras etc. Done all the time.

I guess the technology is there, it's just cost like most things holding back.

Living on Mars still can't be ruled out just because of this, after all, there's no stopping living under the surface.

Just send a space adapted caterpillar digger :shifty:

There are several companies working on aspects of the problem, including SpaceX whose mysterious "MCT" (part of its Mars architecture) should be announced within a year. They 're already looking at NASA's Pad 39A (Apollo / shuttle) as a place to launch their super-heavy launcher(s) - able to loft 150-200 tons. Huge SOB. Also prepping to announce a private spaceport in Brownsville, TX, along with a new factory there for their big rockets. Mr. Musk wants to go to Mars.

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