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#16 Torolol

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 06:42

domain name filter? bypass with neutral DNS

filter by banning non ISP DNS? bypass with modifying host files entries after you find the real sites' IP

IP address filter? bypass with proxy




#17 WildWayz

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 06:43

No, it will be installed on the network - similar to IWF. 



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:35

I'm sure they will be more bothered if they have to call daily

I think the ISP's are the ones going to be bothered if they're facing (possibly) thousands of phone calls to have sites blocked or unblocked...



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:39

I daresay it will be either controllable from the customer's management page... so no calls.

OR - ISPs will allow it to be add/removed X times a year.

 

Seriously, my worry is all these people panicking as their porn is shut off! I think it's the best thing to happen to the Internet in a long time! If you're an adult and you want to still view porn, then opt out. If you don't want to be subjected to it, or your kids... then you are protected. ALWAYS ways around things for those who really want to view it, but this is for the MAJORITY of situations.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:01

i have been blocking adult content on my home network for years using Open DNS

 

This, opendns does a great job at doing this



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:04

This, opendns does a great job at doing this

 

 

Agreed. OpenDNS is brilliant - even paid for the service to do it too.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:05

lol i dont pay the free service is fine

 

the devices i need it on get the IP details via DHCP and the other computers are static so dont

 

works very well :D



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:06

I wonder why its just the UK? is it the net cop?



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:11

I wonder why its just the UK? is it the net cop?

 

I think David Cameron was getting bored sitting in his office doing nothing, I bet porn aint blocked on his computer lol



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:11

I wonder why its just the UK? is it the net cop?

 

Unfortunately, society has changed a lot over the last 10 years. It is actually becoming a case where children are becoming addicted to porn etc.

Hence why it is coming into effect.

 

I had an addition to online porn (and I am 34) - almost destroyed my life, so I welcome it. The seed was planted when I was a kid and when I got online in 1996, it meant I had easy access to the stuff and it spiralled. I've been 'porn free' for over 3 years now, and see things for what it is.

I am telling you, it is creating a society where kids see women/men etc as objects and nothing is off limits.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 09:38

I daresay it will be either controllable from the customer's management page... so no calls.

OR - ISPs will allow it to be add/removed X times a year.

 

Seriously, my worry is all these people panicking as their porn is shut off! I think it's the best thing to happen to the Internet in a long time! If you're an adult and you want to still view porn, then opt out. If you don't want to be subjected to it, or your kids... then you are protected. ALWAYS ways around things for those who really want to view it, but this is for the MAJORITY of situations.

 

The problem is that this is a slippery slope. You can start off blocking things which are reasonable, but once the infrastructure is in place why not include this website the government doesn't agree with.
We've seen this behaviour before when youtube and twitter have been blocked in other countries due to a single offensive video or tweet.

Anyway children are already trained in avoiding content filters. Its one of the main things that they teach themselves at school



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 16:07

The problem is that this is a slippery slope. You can start off blocking things which are reasonable, but once the infrastructure is in place why not include this website the government doesn't agree with.
We've seen this behaviour before when youtube and twitter have been blocked in other countries due to a single offensive video or tweet.
 

 

That's what I afraid of too. I don't trust any government to do the right thing.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 16:16

...and will not require any new legislation as the involvement of ISPs is voluntary.


http://www.independe...ar-8662106.html

So basically, all of this is speculation, there is no new law requiring ISPs to block porn sites by default, she just assumes they're all going to comply with her plans.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 16:25

Unfortunately, society has changed a lot over the last 10 years. It is actually becoming a case where children are becoming addicted to porn etc.

Hence why it is coming into effect.

 

I had an addition to online porn (and I am 34) - almost destroyed my life, so I welcome it. The seed was planted when I was a kid and when I got online in 1996, it meant I had easy access to the stuff and it spiralled. I've been 'porn free' for over 3 years now, and see things for what it is.

I am telling you, it is creating a society where kids see women/men etc as objects and nothing is off limits.

It didn't create that environment, you did. There are groups and such for people who can't keep a hold on rl. We shouldn't censor the internet because a small subset of people aren't able to handle the responsibility.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 16:31

But then those people who 'have a grip on real life' as you put it, are crying when they will have to "opt out" of the filtering.

 

What it is, is that these people who 'have a grip on real life' are crapping themselves as when they get a girlfriend, or have a wife accidently goes onto an adult site, it will let them rather than block it - so they know their partner has opted out :)

 

As said, it is great concept from 95% of the population - the other 5% can just opt out, for free and enjoy what they watch/view :)

 

We already do it with the mobile side of it - where you DO have to call up, pay £1 to have adult content unlocked - so it isn't out of the ordinary.





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