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#1 ruiderson

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 22:40

Someone else have the same annoying bug that Windows 8.1 Preview can't close any app with the swipe down mouse move? All apps that I try to close with this gesture, still opened in the Task Manager, and consuming lot of memory! Every time I have to select the app in task manager, and click "end task".

Using Windows 8.1 for about 1 hour or less, uses 80% of 2GB RAM, forcing me to logout, and the memory usage go down!

I had Windows 8 in my notebook since october, and this never happened before!

 

Hope to see a coming fix as fast as Microsoft can! :/



Best Answer dr_crabman , 28 June 2013 - 18:45

Okay, apparently it's not a bug. If you want to 100% kill an app by gesture you now have to hold it at the bottom for a while until it flips around. And if you then drag it back up it restarts.

 

@ruiderson: Did your system actually become slower?

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#2 Eric

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 22:48

Yep. I've even gotten a warning that my computer was running low on memory.



#3 grayscale

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 14:21

Can confirm this as well.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 14:35

Yeah I'm seeing this here as well, don't know why the processes are staying open.



#5 dr_crabman

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 14:44

Looked in the task manager just now and indeed, everything is still there. Thankfully I have 16GB so I won't run into any problems but that's definitely not good.



#6 dr_crabman

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 18:45   Best Answer

Okay, apparently it's not a bug. If you want to 100% kill an app by gesture you now have to hold it at the bottom for a while until it flips around. And if you then drag it back up it restarts.

 

@ruiderson: Did your system actually become slower?



#7 George P

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 18:50

Okay, apparently it's not a bug. If you want to 100% kill an app by gesture you now have to hold it at the bottom for a while until it flips around. And if you then drag it back up it restarts.

 

@ruiderson: Did your system actually become slower?

 

You're right, I just tested this and it does work.  But at the same time, if you're using a kb+mouse, when you bring up the new task switcher and right click you get the option to close apps from the popup menu.  Doing so always closed apps in 8 but doesn't in 8.1.  So I think there could be a bug of sorts in there as well.



#8 NateB1

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 18:53

The way Windows 8 is supposed to work is that the apps remain in memory until the memory is needed for something else.  Just because you're at 80% utilization does not mean it's a bad thing - it's only a bad thing if you try to open another app or do something and your computer slows down. 

 

The way the model works in 8.1 sounds ideal, if it works correctly - that way, apps give the appearance of launching instantaneously as long as the memory isn't fully utilized, and nothing else is slowed down.  Why have a bunch of empty RAM lying around and not utilize it for performance reasons?



#9 George P

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 19:00

The way Windows 8 is supposed to work is that the apps remain in memory until the memory is needed for something else.  Just because you're at 80% utilization does not mean it's a bad thing - it's only a bad thing if you try to open another app or do something and your computer slows down. 

 

The way the model works in 8.1 sounds ideal, if it works correctly - that way, apps give the appearance of launching instantaneously as long as the memory isn't fully utilized, and nothing else is slowed down.  Why have a bunch of empty RAM lying around and not utilize it for performance reasons?

 

I agree, since I have 16GB I don't often close things but still, it'd be nice for something to actually close when you want it to for whatever reason.



#10 SierraSonic

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 19:17

9 times out of 10, I prefer my apps to be opened anew rather than coming from a saved state.

#11 AsherGZ

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 19:26

Never noticed any lags with 4GB of ram. Try this maybe?



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 00:48

Like dr_crabman said, the gesture has changed. Now it works fine, and auto close the app after a few seconds in the Task Manager too.

Now the RAM usage is the same that Windows 8 did!

Thanks to the help! :D



#13 HawkMan

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 00:56

Don't use the task manager to see how much memory is used. 

It lists the total amount of ram an app/program has used. the majority of this memory is generally tagged as "available" as in other apps can overwrite it and use it themselves at any time.

 

so the task manager will even on high memory systems list 90% used, even if 90% is actually available. 



#14 McKay

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:03

Ive done the normal closing methods and can see they do remain open in Task Manager, however they don't seem to be using much Memory. Does it add up over time because these figures are pretty consistent. 

 

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#15 grayscale

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 02:53

The way Windows 8 is supposed to work is that the apps remain in memory until the memory is needed for something else.  Just because you're at 80% utilization does not mean it's a bad thing - it's only a bad thing if you try to open another app or do something and your computer slows down. 

 

The way the model works in 8.1 sounds ideal, if it works correctly - that way, apps give the appearance of launching instantaneously as long as the memory isn't fully utilized, and nothing else is slowed down.  Why have a bunch of empty RAM lying around and not utilize it for performance reasons?

Well, if that's the case then I like the current implementation. The Alt-tab (or Ctrl+Alt+Tab) list gets cluttered so I always close the Metro apps. In 8.1, "closing" it removes it from this list but still resides in memory so if I choose to launch it, it will do so at an instant.

Alt+F4 still kills the app if you don't want the slight delay in doing the gesture.