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Man, son set 7 y/o stepson on fire

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I **really** have a problem with slimes like this. I mean, SERIOUSLY - what kind of worthless POS waste of skin do you have to be to set a little kid on fire?!? Not that I haven't seen the aftermath of abuse before, but you never get used to this kind of s***.

Woodchipper food. Nice & slow :angry:

Saxonburg is a small town in western Pennsylvania.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/07/11/man-and-son-arrested-for-setting-7-year-old-on-fire-videotaping-it/

Dad, Son Arrested For Setting 7-Year-Old On Fire, Videotaping It

SAXONBURG (KDKA)

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I'm glad I don't live near that town.

 

I have met people who think it's OK to kill racehorses by setting the stables on fire. :crazy:

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I **really** have a problem with slimes like this. I mean, SERIOUSLY - what kind of worthless POS waste of skin do you have to be to set a little kid on fire?!? Not that I haven't seen the aftermath of abuse before, but you never get used to this kind of s***.

Woodchipper food. Nice & slow :angry:

Saxonburg is a small town in western Pennsylvania.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/07/11/man-and-son-arrested-for-setting-7-year-old-on-fire-videotaping-it/

 

 

Ever heard of the phrase.. two wrongs don't make a right? Saying you want to feed this guy and his kids through a wood chipper, isn't any less disgusting than setting that kid on fire, and you own guns?

 

Personally I hope the guy goes to jail for a long time, unfortunately for the kids that were coerced into this attack, they're probably mentally scarred for life.

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Ever heard of the phrase.. two wrongs don't make a right? Saying you want to feed this guy and his kids through a wood chipper, isn't any less disgusting than setting that kid on fire, and you own guns?

 

Personally I hope the guy goes to jail for a long time, unfortunately for the kids that were coerced into this attack, they're probably mentally scarred for life.

 

I'd rather have murders killed than life in prison for life.

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I'd rather have murders killed than life in prison for life.

 

Than you guys are no better than the murderers themselves. This is the 21st century, there is no room in civilized society for savage vigilante justice.

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I have met people who think it's OK to kill racehorses by setting the stables on fire. :crazy:

 

No, you haven't. If you have, they've never actually done it.

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Than you guys are no better than the murderers themselves.

 

Yes, because I actually want to murder people.

 

Sorry, I'd rather not waste my money keeping someone alive and in prison for life.

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Yes, because I actually want to murder people.

 

Sorry, I'd rather not waste my money keeping someone alive and in prison for life.

 

Good thing it's not your choice then.

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Good thing it's not your choice then.

 

Good thing, I wouldn't want to deal with people like you whining about keeping people like in the new article alive.

 

You can't fix evil.

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Good thing, I wouldn't want to deal with people like you whining about keeping people like in the new article alive.

 

You can't fix evil.

 

Not whining, just saying that murdering people for murdering people doesn't give you the moral high ground, or wanting to murder people for murdering people doesn't either, it's wrong no matter what reason is given for it. If you want to debate this further, let's take it to IM or something, we've hijacked and derailed this thread enough.

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Not whining, just saying that murdering people for murdering people doesn't give you the moral high ground, or wanting to murder people for murdering people doesn't either, it's wrong no matter what reason is given for it. If you want to debate this further, let's take it to IM or something, we've hijacked and derailed this thread enough.

 

So, I guess all the murders that have been executed after being convicted, were murdered.

 

Maybe we should stop murdering our food source.

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I'm glad I don't live near that town.

 

Just because one idiot does something terrible isn't a reflection of the entire town.

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Than you guys are no better than the murderers themselves. This is the 21st century, there is no room in civilized society for savage vigilante justice.

 

There is no room in society for people who set little kids on fire and film it.

Why do some people believe that 'civilized' means that people who commit the most heinous crimes just need a time out in an iron barred box? Some murderers may just be a victim of circumstance and may be changed, but here's the truth whether you believe it or not: some people have deep psychopathic, antisocial tendencies that all the therapy in the world will not fix. These types would just as easily kill you who are trying to vouch for them. Give them a fair trial so their views can be heard but if the conclusion is that it is premeditated with no sort of remorse, put them down.

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There is no room in society for people who set little kids on fire and film it.

 

This I agree. 

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wow, just... wow!

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There is no room in society for people who set little kids on fire and film it.

Why do some people believe that 'civilized' means that people who commit the most heinous crimes just need a time out in an iron barred box? Some murderers may just be a victim of circumstance and may be changed, but here's the truth whether you believe it or not: some people have deep psychopathic, antisocial tendencies that all the therapy in the world will not fix. These types would just as easily kill you who are trying to vouch for them. Give them a fair trial so their views can be heard but if the conclusion is that it is premeditated with no sort of remorse, put them down.

 

So let them face their day in court, and be judged by their peers, they'll get whats coming to them, in time, by due justice. Not by a screaming sociopaths hellbent on their own style of vigilante justice. You like that kind of ****, move to Afghanistan. I personally want the man to get his ass kicked by a mob, but being a civil society isn't giving the monster what you want, but what the monster deserves, and that's to rot in jail for the rest of his life to stew over the guilt he'll undoubtedly feel as his freedom and self worth is stripped of him.

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So let them face their day in court, and be judged....I personally want the man to get his ass kicked by a mob, but being a civil society isn't giving the monster what you want, but what the monster deserves,....

On these parts we agree and what he deserves is to be burned at the stake, eye for an eye and all that, but I'll settle for the woodchipper.

Look, I don't think society has any obligation to give this subhumanoid mutant 3 squares, a roof, a bed and cable TV for the rest of his days. That also puts the prison staff and other less dangerous prisoners at risk because he isn't going to cease being a malignant sociopath. We wouldn't let a rottweiler who nearly killed a kid live and it would be less "responsible" than a murderous subhuman POS.

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So let them face their day in court, and be judged by their peers, they'll get whats coming to them, in time, by due justice. Not by a screaming sociopaths hellbent on their own style of vigilante justice. You like that kind of ****, move to Afghanistan. I personally want the man to get his ass kicked by a mob, but being a civil society isn't giving the monster what you want, but what the monster deserves, and that's to rot in jail for the rest of his life to stew over the guilt he'll undoubtedly feel as his freedom and self worth is stripped of him.

 

So you'd rather have this guy be tortured (ie: being beat by a mob) than just killed?

 

They do far worse in Afghanistan.

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I've never understood the concept of killing those who are guilty of horrible crimes. It seems na

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Use of capital punishment by country

 

While I would love to see this person get what's coming to him, I was iffy on instituting any sort of capital punishment or torture. But after looking at that list and seeing which countries permit the death penalty vs those that don't, I'm gonna have to side with being against the death penalty. With exception to Belarus, all other European countries have abolished the death penalty. It's mostly countries in the middle east and Africa that still permit it, not exactly a favorable bunch. I would have to argue that the United States is behind the rest of the "civilized world" in terms of the death penalty. Another interesting statistic, only Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, and China exceed the United States for number of executions in 2012.

 

Then consider that there were only 43 executions in the United States last year, hardly making the world a safer place. It's not really any cheaper than a life sentence either, considering inmates sometimes spend decades on death row. This is especially true for California, which has 727 inmates on death row, more than any other state [source]. The death penalty is more symbolic than it is practical.

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Than you guys are no better than the murderers themselves. This is the 21st century, there is no room in civilized society for savage vigilante justice.

 

did you hear about the wars after 9/11? evidently there is plenty of room for it, in fact, its mainstream.

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Another interesting statistic, only Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, and China exceed the United States for number of executions in 2012

Clearly, we have to redouble our efforts. I propose that all death sentences bypass the state courts and go straight to the US Courts of Appeal. Once they review it there's only one more step, SCOTUS, and they rarely take such cases on. Should cut appeal lengths from tens of years down to 2-3. Should also probably exclude death sentences from circumstantial evidence cases just to be fair.

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Clearly, we have to redouble our efforts. I propose that all death sentences bypass the state courts and go straight to the US Courts of Appeal. Once they review it there's only one more step, SCOTUS, and they rarely take such cases on. Should cut appeal lengths from tens of years down to 2-3. Should also probably exclude death sentences from circumstantial evidence cases just to be fair.

This much I agree with. Ideally, I'd like to see the end of the death penalty in the United States. But if we're to retain the death penalty, I would insist that it's limited to only those cases with overwhelming evidence. It's sad when something as basic as DNA evidence has proven the innocence of people on death row.

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Than you guys are no better than the murderers themselves. This is the 21st century, there is no room in civilized society for savage vigilante justice.

While you do make a good point, I think its wrong for the Tax payers and the Government to be paying to keep people locked up who'll just go and kill again when they get out.

 

He and his 15 year old son set a 7 year old kid on fire...  I'll say this .... if you don't want kids don't try for them. Simple.  If you already have kids but can't handle them, then seek help, either from relatives or support groups. 

 

Like it or not the UK needs the death penalty, but it should only be used in extreme cases only.   We have to set an example for these people that killing kids will not be tolerated.

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~snip~

I get what you're trying to say, but the justice system is flawed, (yes it's better than no system whatsoever) but for people like this, life in prison, only increases prison population, some prisons are heavily crowded, some are overpopulated as it is,  personally I think anyone who would knowingly do such an act, then film it no longer deserves to be called a member of society.

I'm not saying ending them is the right answer, but the alternative is also getting to the point where it's about used up.

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