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#16 +techbeck

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 13:29

Does pet insurance not exist in the US?

 

It does.  But lots do not have it.




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Posted 09 August 2013 - 13:44

10 grand is a bit much and not sure if he would even survive.  The humane thing to do is put the dog down.

 

And she wanted to take the dog home?  Seriously?  Uhhh, yea you mam are an idiot.  The dog was critically injured and suffering.  She should of just did the hard thing, put the dog to sleep.

Why is that the humane thing to do?  Did you notice that the dog is alive?  Its doubtful that she had this $10k surgery done elsewhere so perhaps the dog was misdiagnosed as being critically injured.  I do not believe that Vets are not profitable, as a dog owner ive spent my fair share at my local vet or animal hospital only to be raked over the coals for shots that are purchased for a few dollars.  My first experience at a Vet cost me $200 because my cat scratched his eye, they looked at it, gave me some eye drops and sent me on my way.  Total time there was about 15 minutes. 



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 13:51

So we, humans, decide what animals can and can't live based on money. This is what happens if you keep animals as pets. They are living animals. A living mammal, an organism with a heart, brain, kidneys, bone and blood, just like us, yet we enslave them for human gratification.

 

I do not own any pets because I do not believe in owning an animal or anything that is living. Imagine that YOU are the dog. Would you like to be bought, caged or fenced, only to be in places your master tells you, you don't get to explore the world. That is their world as they now know it.

Newsflash - Dogs were bred by humans, they're a human invention. Dogs crave human interaction and are almost always submissive to humans who they consider the "pack leader/Alpha".

 

This is why a dog will throw its self into any danger if it thinks it's owner is under threat, they dont do it for any other reason than loyalty and friendship.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 13:58

Are you trying to compare a human to an animal?

 

Humans ARE animals.

 

We consider humans to be more important than an animal.  However, we won't allow an animal to suffer when in incurable pain, but we force humans to suffer?  How is that even remotely humane?



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 14:04

Why is that the humane thing to do?  Did you notice that the dog is alive?  Its doubtful that she had this $10k surgery done elsewhere so perhaps the dog was misdiagnosed as being critically injured.  I do not believe that Vets are not profitable, as a dog owner ive spent my fair share at my local vet or animal hospital only to be raked over the coals for shots that are purchased for a few dollars.  My first experience at a Vet cost me $200 because my cat scratched his eye, they looked at it, gave me some eye drops and sent me on my way.  Total time there was about 15 minutes. 

That is them lowering the cost of the more expensive stuff. They never said that it is not profitable, they said that it doesn't have a huge profit margin. A vet, especially those that keep animals overnight, is technically open 24/7 with someone watching the animals even when the front door is closed. It requires more employees to keep that office running than it does a human doctors office who is only open 8-10 hours a day. The surgeries they do constantly are expensive since they are done with standards that are close to a hospitals. There is a vet here that even does IV fluids when neutering/spading. The reason you paid $200 for a $15 minute session is because you are also paying to lower the cost of everything else. How else do you think the most common surgery only costs around $100 for the actual procedure. If they didn't do business that way, nobody could afford to get their pets neutered/spaded and there are places, like my city, where it is illegal to not get them fixed unless you have a breeders license. The idea is to spread the cost.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 14:14

Humans ARE animals.

 

We consider humans to be more important than an animal.  However, we won't allow an animal to suffer when in incurable pain, but we force humans to suffer?  How is that even remotely humane?

 

Yes, humans are animals...but you know what I mean.

 

Many humans do suffer and go without treatment or deny treatment.  Some even sign DNRs forms if they are seriously ill.  And if put on life support, family members are given the choice to take them off if it doesn't look like they will recover.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 14:54

Yes, humans are animals...but you know what I mean.

 

Many humans do suffer and go without treatment or deny treatment.  Some even sign DNRs forms if they are seriously ill.  And if put on life support, family members are given the choice to take them off if it doesn't look like they will recover.

 

Clearly, you've never watched someone die like that.  Quiet and painless is one thing it rarely is.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 15:34

Clearly, you've never watched someone die like that.  Quiet and painless is one thing it rarely is.

 

I had a good friend die earlier this year from level 4 lung cancer.  She also had tumors all the bones in her body as well.  It was very painful.  But again, it was her decision to undergo treatment and fight this.  Some people refuse to go through treatment, especially if they are older, and animals do not have a voice.



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 17:18

So we, humans, decide what animals can and can't live based on money. This is what happens if you keep animals as pets. They are living animals. A living mammal, an organism with a heart, brain, kidneys, bone and blood, just like us, yet we enslave them for human gratification.

 

I do not own any pets because I do not believe in owning an animal or anything that is living. Imagine that YOU are the dog. Would you like to be bought, caged or fenced, only to be in places your master tells you, you don't get to explore the world. That is their world as they now know it.

 

I take it that you are a vegan then?